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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: musiclover420]
    #22117707 - 08/20/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I have had much more funky tasting inorganic produce than organic stuff, maybe that is just me though :shrug: Learn food seasons and you will be fine.



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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #22117711 - 08/20/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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You do realize chemicals soak into things right? :lol: If only all one had to do was rinse it off...




PS: the point is to reduce the amount of chemicals to a safe amount. don't act like you don't know that.

vegetable's will pull up whatever's from the soil or the groundwater too; organic farming is just simply not the end-all be all answer to saving the world that people want it to be. it's VIABLE in America. that's it. and it's certainly no "miracle" health stipend to adjust the rates of disease and obesity or death in America...it's a dent in a very large machine. here are millions of people to be fed...local farmer's cannot sustain them all. FACT.

if we did this: we'd be a farmer's nation. you want Prisoner #1 to be in control of the law of the land, man? :lol:


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22117714 - 08/20/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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You do realize chemicals soak into things right? :lol: If only all one had to do was rinse it off...




PS: the point is to reduce the amount of chemicals to a safe amount. don't act like you don't know that.

vegetable's will pull up whatever's from the soil or the groundwater too; organic farming is just simply not the end-all be all answer to saving the world that people want it to be. it's VIABLE in America. that's it. and it's certainly no "miracle" health stipend to adjust the rates of disease and obesity or death in America...it's a dent in a very large machine. here are millions of people to be fed...local farmer's cannot sustain them all. FACT.

if we did this: we'd be a farmer's nation. you want Prisoner #1 to be in control of the law of the land, man? :lol:



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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #22117721 - 08/20/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I also lol'd at your prisoner joke.


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22117731 - 08/20/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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IDK maybe freeze and or can some? You know, like people have been doing for a long ass time




i don't run a farm, and i don't want to live the farmer's lifestyle of canning foods all the live long fucking day because you hate idealism.

so all my supposedly fresh fruit should be canned and stored...i like FRESH fruit. never liked canned food. i ain't making RATIONs here, in a war...or in the 1900's/1800's.

and Frozen foods really lose their flavor. sorry. i'll save my food if I HAVE TO, but not in some large bumbling home operation to make stored/frozen food, to have it all suffer in flavor & texture just, again, because of your distaste for idealism.


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #22117741 - 08/20/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I also lol'd at your prisoner joke.



think about it. if the whole country was organic farms, which it would have to almost just about be, we'd have like twenty-thirty other Prisoner #1's and all sorts of chaos would ensue. we'd all be like whipped and caned and told to pick faster!


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22117795 - 08/20/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah it is much better shipping food across the world wasting fuel just so you can eat fresh out of season fruit :rolleyes:

I have never noticed any issues with my frozen fruit berries or produce :shrug: canning is pretty easy and useful. Not my fault you are to lazy to do it.

Should everyone in the world have to be exposed to the fuel emissions made by transporting your out of season fruit around the world just so you can eat it?

Seems pretty selfish to me.

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vegetable's will pull up whatever's from the soil or the groundwater too; organic farming is just simply not the end-all be all answer to saving the world that people want it to be. it's VIABLE in America.




It is viable wherever plants can be grown, so basically everywhere :lol:

Like I have said we just need to give up our cash crops and focus on feeding our fellow humans...

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local farmer's cannot sustain them all. FACT.




The point is people need to take things into their own hands. Start a medicinal and or edible mushroom culture, utilize your available land.

Our current system is ind bogglingly greedy and inefficient.


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: musiclover420]
    #22117819 - 08/20/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i never said shipping food across the world was good...at all. i'm talking about freshness and you're putting words in my mouth about crony practices. i say everything should be done in service of your own country, and not by come other country's service.

when did i ever say otherwise?

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I have never noticed any issues with my frozen fruit berries or produce :shrug: canning is pretty easy and useful. Not my fault you are to lazy to do it.




lazy no? busy with other things, yes.

and frozen fruits just flat out lose their flavor. you can can your foods but it's not fresh any more. texture is destroyed. you can macerate your fruit all you want. but the flavor and texture goes out the window.

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Should everyone in the world have to be exposed to the fuel emissions made by transporting your out of season fruit around the world just so you can eat it?

Seems pretty selfish to me.




yeah, i only buy Canadian. i don't buy Chinese fucking fruit, and neither should anyone in North America.

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It is viable wherever plants can be grown, so basically everywhere :lol:

Like I have said we just need to give up our cash crops and focus on feeding our fellow humans...




you'd have to have a lot more farmers busting their ass for alot more people, and i'll tell you, those farmers won't be pleased. they'll do what THEY can to save their money, too, cause they won't have any, unless you want everyone to turn round and suddenly start farming THEIR OWN produce, because of "carbon emissions".

it's viable places with shitty groundwater sources, as well? really? how? how do you avoid toxins in places with pollution?

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The point is people need to take things into their own hands. Start a medicinal and or edible mushroom culture, utilize your available land.

Our current system is ind bogglingly greedy and inefficient.




you want the world to change into a veritable hippy circle of everyone growing their own food and not having time for anything else. tribal culture, basically. :lol: that's the only way you're gonna get what you want. good luck convincing billions of people to drop what they're doing and struggle a little harder in their day to day lives to survive.


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: musiclover420]
    #22118103 - 08/20/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Music, you have many good points. I'm too lazy to grow my own, truth be known. I have so many things now to do that I keep putting off because deadlines come up, another crisis comes along, something breaks down and need immediate attention, etc. I have loads of things I'd like to do but have no time. So I buy it.

One thing though, if everyone or a lot more people started eating organic, the demand would cause prices to go up. The prices going up would make many traditional farmers and those fed up with monsatan's crap turn to organic which would eventually bring down the cost some. But in the meantime if it became a fad we would be taken to the cleaners and pay not just 2x or 3x but maybe 10x the cost of conventional food.


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22118195 - 08/20/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I completely understand why people don't take the time to do it too.

I have so much free time I would feel like an asshole if I was not gardening, in fact I should be doing much much more.

Some plants take pretty minimal effort though, start some at the right time and get a timer and sprinkler and bam. Self sustaining garden.

If everyone was growing their own organic produce it would actually drive prices down. Look at the cannabis market. The only places the price has not gone down is where people have to import most of it and can get away with higher prices. All the medical and or recreational states have seen massive price drops. I remember when a pound of decent bud was at least 2,000$ here in Oregon. Now outdoor goes below 1,000 sometimes and 1,200-1,400 is not bad for decent stuff. Sure some dispensaries and stuff still get away with higher prices due to taxes but whatever :shrug:


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: musiclover420]
    #22118207 - 08/20/15 07:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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musiclover420 said:
I completely understand why people don't take the time to do it too.

I have so much free time I would feel like an asshole if I was not gardening, in fact I should be doing much much more.

Some plants take pretty minimal effort though, start some at the right time and get a timer and sprinkler and bam. Self sustaining garden.

If everyone was growing their own organic produce it would actually drive prices down. Look at the cannabis market. The only places the price has not gone down is where people have to import most of it and can get away with higher prices. All the medical and or recreational states have seen massive price drops. I remember when a pound of decent bud was at least 2,000$ here in Oregon. Now outdoor goes below 1,000 sometimes and 1,200-1,400 is not bad for decent stuff. Sure some dispensaries and stuff still get away with higher prices due to taxes but whatever :shrug:



Oregon is the best. I pay $20 a gram here. I went to Oregon and asked someone for a gram and they were like "we don't really do grams here, we do eights" and I asked how much and he said $25 :whoa: damn good quality too.


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #22118222 - 08/20/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Jesus where do you live? :shock:

I really do love Oregon, such a majestic state with a cool culture/ scene. Lots of good drugs music and people.


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: musiclover420]
    #22118239 - 08/20/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Middle of nowhere in Texas :feelsbadman:


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: musiclover420]
    #22118240 - 08/20/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, well the weed market is limited, while the produce market is ginormous.


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22118245 - 08/20/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, nowhere in the United States even comes close to Oregon in my opinion. That people there are awesome


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #22118251 - 08/20/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Texas is one of many states I have yet to visit. I bet it is too hot and conservative for me but I will probably have to explore there eventually.

The weed market is pretty damn big Akira.

Anyways if anything since the food market is bigger there are more people who could be growing their own food and lowering demand/ prices...


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: musiclover420]
    #22118257 - 08/20/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

not if no one is buying. someone's gotta sell it at the price people will be willing to buy for as opposed to growing their own, and soon people will only want to grow their own...then the market is shot.

then everyone MUST make their own food, or work for it. no not money...food.


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22118276 - 08/20/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Eh, if you come to Texas, go to Austin. That's the only place worth visiting in my opinion.


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22118313 - 08/20/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

People are always going to be buying food. Not everyone will be able to grow everything they may need and or want.

The point is it could actually bring the price down not up...

The worst (or best) case scenario I see around that is if everyone starts growing their own food the value will drop and trade could become common again.

I have definitely heard a lot about Austin, I think some bads I dig are from there even maybe. New Monsoon? Idk really lol.


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: musiclover420]
    #22118319 - 08/20/15 07:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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People are always going to be buying food. Not everyone will be able to grow everything they may need and or want.




correct. and we'll need mass production of it all to sustain people.


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