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“Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto
    #22106782 - 08/18/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

We have long suspected that Monsanto was bribing the researchers who parrot its slogan that gmo's are totally harmless. Here we have found the goods on a so called "independent" researcher who was a big Monsanto advocate. The bums sent him all over the country to "educate" consumers.


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(ANTIMEDIA) Oakland, CA –  In January of 2015, a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request filed by Oakland organization U.S. Right to Know requested email records between academics, scientists, and representatives of Big Agriculture.
The FOIA requests were sent to 14 scientists at four public universities, requesting information on communications and email records.


The FOIA findings included communications of well-known, staunch proponents of GM crops like Kevin Folta, a professor and chairman of the Horticultural Sciences Department at the University of Gainesville, who received a $25,000 grant from Monsanto. The emails reveal the funds could “be used at [his] discretion in support of [his] research and outreach projects”.
About 4,600 pages of emails, among other records, were obtained from Folta.
According to the communications, the ties between allegedly objective scientists and Big Agriculture run deep. According to Nature Magazine,

“The documents show that Monsanto paid for Folta’s travel to speak to US students, farmers, politicians and the media. Other industry contacts occasionally sent him suggested responses to common questions about GM organisms.”

While it’s not uncommon for scientists to receive corporate funding through grants, these revelations are troublesome because Folta is regularly sold to the public as an “independent” authority on GMOs. In fact, the biotech industry-funded site, GMOanswers.com — which seeks to dispel myths about the dangers of GM foods and pesticides — has still not disclosed Folta’s financial ties to Monsanto.

According to an article from Nature Magazine, U.S. Right to Know is “probing what it sees as collusion between the agricultural biotechnology industry and academics who study science, economics and communication.”
In layman’s terms, the organization is made up of ordinary people who seek to make corruption transparent and obliterate illusions of objectivity.


Executive director of U.S. Right to Know, Gary Ruskin, said one of the reasons the organization made the requests is that “The agri-chemical industry has spent $100 million dollars in a massive public relations campaign.The public has the right to know the dynamics.”
It looks like the FOIA targets are doing everything they can to avoid revealing information. According to Wired, “Legal teams at the universities—Nebraska, University of Florida, UC Davis, and the University of Illinois—are currently evaluating the situation, but some scientists have already spoken out against the FOIA request.”

FOIA requests might be one of the greatest threats to corruption and revolving door politics, which explains why those who oppose transparency are doing everything they can to prevent them.

“Open records requests are increasingly being used to harass and intimidate scientists and other academic researchers, or to disrupt and delay their work,” a report from The Union of Concerned Scientists claims.
“Academic institutions and other involved parties need to be prepared to respond to these requests in a way that protects the privacy and academic freedom of researchers while complying with the law and respecting the public’s right to information.”
Kevin Folta did what he could to avoid blame, saying, “I’m just a teacher, trying to distill a controversial literature for the general public.”
“I turned over everything [requested by the FOIAs] immediately,” he said.
There is no such thing as objective science when a researcher receives tens of thousands of dollars from the GM producers themselves, then goes on to promote their financiers’ products. Corporate collusion between government bureaucracies and educational institutions has become a serious issue in the U.S. that has corrupted objectivity in nearly every sector of American life.

If there is corruption in our society that you wish to make transparent, you can file your own Freedom of Information Act request, just like U.S. Right to Know did.


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22106787 - 08/18/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds like every climate change skeptical scientist.. Always have grants from oil companies or the Cato institute.


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22106789 - 08/18/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Monsanto is evil :thumbdown:


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: Herbologist]
    #22106796 - 08/18/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't have a problem with GMOs per SE, but Monsanto is a highly unethical company and has been for decades.


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: koods]
    #22106806 - 08/18/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Actually agribusiness is right up there with oil companies as being generally universally evil.


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: koods]
    #22107162 - 08/18/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:popcorn:...Zappa and Pris....coming to your GMO thread soon!


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: Thayendanegea] * 1
    #22107166 - 08/18/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

$25,000:lolsy:


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: Thayendanegea] * 5
    #22107216 - 08/18/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I hate roundup...now, In Pa. the township and state road crews are using it to defoliate along the highways instead of mowing like they used to do. It looks terrible...huge brown swaths along beautiful scenic roads. I just don't get it...that shit is everywhere. They planted GMO soybeans next to my girlfriends house on her lot...she owns a 3 acre lot next door that she allows the farmer to plant because he is a friend.. Anyway, I built some bluebird houses and aligned them next to the field ...two of them drew nesting pairs...a couple days after the eggs hatched the dude sprayed his roundup ...all the chicks died. No one can tell me that shit is environmentally friendly...She told the farmer that he can't plant corn or soybeans there anymore. Also, the honey people have learned not to put their hives anywhere near the gmo fields because most of their bees die. They instead put the hives next to clover or just creek buffers where there is nothing planted. Zappa and Pris can reserve their comments because I have seen this first hand...not read it on a computer screen....this shit is evil.


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #22107367 - 08/18/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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$25,000:lolsy:




For many people that is a ton of money :shrug: of course you would just write something like this off :lol:

Yet you have no problem being overly skeptical of all the things you don't support, perfect example of conservative logic...


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: musiclover420] * 1
    #22107395 - 08/18/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

25 grand isn't shit.  Is it your position that no research that receives corporate funding is legitimate but research that receives money from Greenpeace, say, is totally Jake?  Or gets money from some Hollywood whackjob?  Fuck outta here.


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #22107423 - 08/18/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ethical scientists volunteer funding sources that have a stake in the outcome of the research. They shouldn't have to be forced to do so.


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: koods]
    #22107436 - 08/18/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The money has to come from somewhere.  If his research is faulty it will be found so under peer review.  Getting 25G from Monsanto does not in any way disqualify his research.  This is something nonscience idiots do not understand.  Somebody has to pay for it.  Where do they think the money should come from?  The government?  :lolsy:


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22107455 - 08/18/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That wasn't all he got from monsatan. The article also mentions the fact they paid his travel and expenses so he could spread the word and preach gmo to gullible students and groups. I'm sure the 25k was a drop in the bucket compared to all he did get. They don't publicize it, you have to dig deep to find out.


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22107470 - 08/18/15 04:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The money has to come from somewhere.  If his research is faulty it will be found so under peer review.  Getting 25G from Monsanto does not in any way disqualify his research.  This is something nonscience idiots do not understand.  Somebody has to pay for it.  Where do they think the money should come from?  The government?  :lolsy:





It doesn't disqualify his research, but I would bet that he was heavily influenced with that money.


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: zappaisgod] * 3
    #22107487 - 08/18/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The money has to come from somewhere.  If his research is faulty it will be found so under peer review.  Getting 25G from Monsanto does not in any way disqualify his research.  This is something nonscience idiots do not understand.  Somebody has to pay for it.  Where do they think the money should come from?  The government?  :lolsy:




You're supposed to reveal those sources. That's the point. He didn't reveal when he published his research and that is a big no no,


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: koods] * 4
    #22107514 - 08/18/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If you publish a study that is favorable to a party that helps fund the study without revealing their role, you research is worthless. It may he completely accurate, but it has no value because it shouldn't be trusted.


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #22107538 - 08/18/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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25 grand isn't shit.  Is it your position that no research that receives corporate funding is legitimate but research that receives money from Greenpeace, say, is totally Jake?  Or gets money from some Hollywood whackjob?  Fuck outta here.




I never said that. However if the research was funded by the people being researched, especially a greedy corporation like monsanto that casts doubt IMO.

This is also another great example of conservative logic:

"I don't agree with what was said so I am going to assume something negative about what was said and try to make it look like that is what they meant"

If it was someone like John Stewart being given money by democrats to put out pro liberal opinions you would probably be shitting your britches :lol:


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    #22107548 - 08/18/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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25 grand isn't shit.  Is it your position that no research that receives corporate funding is legitimate but research that receives money from Greenpeace, say, is totally Jake?  Or gets money from some Hollywood whackjob?  Fuck outta here.




I never said that. However if the research was funded by the people being researched, especially a greedy corporation like monsanto that casts doubt IMO.

This is also another great example of conservative logic:

"I don't agree with what was said so I am going to assume something negative about what was said and try to make it look like that is what they meant"

If it was someone like John Stewart being given money by democrats to put out pro liberal opinions you would probably be shitting your britches :lol:





How is this conservative logic?

John Stewart is a crock.  You sound like a "typical" libtard.


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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: Herbologist]
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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: musiclover420]
    #22107561 - 08/18/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

How are they greedier than you?  They have a fiduciary duty to make money for their shareholders.

John Stewart is a Democrat shill who did not reveal his White House visits and coordinated messaging with the administration while trying to pass himself off as a journalist

http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/28/jon-stewart-made-secret-visits-to-obama-white-house/

When called out on it he says he's just a comedian. 

http://dailycaller.com/2010/10/26/jon-stewarts-clown-nose-wont-stay-on-anymore/

He is a dishonest fraud and made a lot more than 25G.


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