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hello swami
"I sincerely applaud you. However, this is nothing new and certainly not magic. You did not merely want (or not want - the CWG bullshit Zen paradox), you took real-world ACTION. That is a HUGE difference."
about the bullshit not wanting paradox , its not that bullshit. the key to using mental power, or in fact the key to DOING anything lies in this idea, at least in my interpretation. When he says Dont want it i take this to mean stop imagining (wishing whining) and make the step of doing it. I mean all of us waste hours away fantasizing about getting muscular like people in mens health magazines, beating the shit out of our enemies like bruce lee, getting rich or fucking your crush... and yet so very, very few of us are satisfied with our appearances, hit the gym as often as we want to, or are making the kind of money we want to be. Hence the not wanting idea. Wanting gets you know where! it paralyzes you.
The key here is to stop saying 'god damn i want a lear jet' and actually thinking out how it can be achieved and then putting this into action. The other important thing though is that unless we have some degree of wisdom and self knowledge most of us dont truly know whats good for us and then tend to set goals that are not truly in our best interests.
The question i asked before is why is it that so many people that are born in amazingly priveleged circumstances still 'fail there lives' so miserably. (in their own eyes) Me (and chaos magic) would say that people have built in or developed failure mechanisms, psychological impediments to success that keep us from realizing our true potential. This is also not a new idea. One example of a failure mechanism is that of fantasizing. Fantasizing is a perversion of the human goal striving mechanism. THe mind discovers it is capable of creating things it desires in the imagination much more easily than it can do so in real life. Hence there is a tendency to divert time and energy into this kind of 'immediate gratification' fantasy instead of pursuing real world goals. THis is one of a limitless number of psychological failure mechanisms we have or can develop, and these mechanisms are in my oppinion why so many people squander their potential. luck is not an excuse or explanation, and even the belief in luck is another failure mechanism.
"its certainly not magic" well, that depends entirely on your definition of magic. here are some of the more popular definitions of magic , paraphrased and uncited.
"magick is the art and science of bringing about change in accordance with the will"
extrapolating on this , magick is the art of breaking down and eliminating those factors within us as well as without that are obstacles to the change we desire.
Now you might say 'if thats all magick is, than wiping my ass is magick as long as my will is to wipe my ass!' very true. Aleister crowley says the very same thing himself. However magick postulates that the range of changes we are free/able to bring about , or our sphere of influence, can be expanded a thousand fold beyond what we currently realize.
"you took REAL WORLD ACTION, theres a huge differance" as i just said magick can and usually does effect the real world. however it can also exist entirely internally, in that magickal practices can be used to bring about inner peace, vivid visions/hallucinations, control dreams whatever. Basically the theory of magic is that you can achieve whatever you will, weather it involves real world action or not.
MAgick can be viewed as a practice in psychology or self hypnosis in that it is used to address mental issues that hinder our happiness or stand in the way of our successes, often using symbolic or ritual behaviours.
Now i mentioned how this is not a philosophy of superstition it is a philopsophy of liberation. The differance is exactly the differance swami mentions when he says "You did not merely want (or not want - the CWG bullshit Zen paradox), you took real-world ACTION. That is a HUGE difference." this is the differance between believing that performing an invocation to mars will make you big and ripped and muscular and believing that invoking mars will help you get your ass to the gym every day, or will let you push through the pain and get up when your judo opponent is choking your carotid arteries.
(mars is the god/planet governing masculine energy, strength, discipline, warfare, combat etc)
Now anything i mentioned early can be achieved without actively believing in the type of magic im describing. However it most often is not achieved, and magic is a powerfull tool for overcoming things like anxietly, insecurity, low self esteem, addiciton, procastination, etc etc etc. weather you call it psychology, magic, positive thinking, bullshit or tripe, it can definetly bring about positive change in your life. (or help you to bring about positive change in your life, the differance is arbitrary)
leary fan: i still dont believe GOD talked to this dude weather it was face to face or thru some kind of automatic writing. I could believe he communicated with god in his own divine self, just as the suffis, bodhisatvvas, saints and brujos do . The reason i make the distinction is that all the above people i mentioned have entirely diffrent experiences of what god is and yet they are all equally divine. The fact that this guy says god talked about things like star trek shows quite clearly he is drawing gods word out of his own experience, it is not being channeld to him from heaven.
Swami: i agree it is somewhat distastefull to claim that god told him these things. however he might well honestlty believe it, and also if it makes more people pick up the book it will probably reach more people and thus help more people. Especially because i believe in chaos magic (we rip off traditions and beliefs from everyone from harry potter and hp lovecraft to cornelius agrippa, abremalim magus and jesus christ) i dont care weather this guy talked to god or weather carlos castaneda made the whole thing up out of his ass, what matters is what i get out if it. After all every wise man sage and philosopher made the whole thing up out of his ass.
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) Then my question becomes: How is that different than for any other human being? Are we all "channeling" God through our filters?
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