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MDMA for the first time?
    #22105097 - 08/18/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hey everyone after a my last few acid trips I feel like my life is in place. Ive never felt so in touch with the world and just mentally normal. It feels great but recently I've been thinking about doing MDMA. I'm fascinated as I hope that it will solidify my genuine happiness. The only problem is that I can't handle sadness. When I get sad it's bad and I don't want that to happen for a few days after,in fear that I'll get on a self destructive path again. If I do MDMA for the first time will I have those hangovers that everyone speaks of? If so how bad are they? Thanks :smile:


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #22105112 - 08/18/15 01:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I personally love MDMA and feel it's very useful for connecting with friends and family but if you're already very content with your life from an amazing LSD trip why push the envelope? For most people you will get a hangover and some sadness that follows the deficit of serotonin. My advice would be to enjoy your LSD enlightenment! MDMA will always be there if you feel the pressing need to experience the wonderful substance.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22105187 - 08/18/15 02:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

MDMA < LSD, IMHO. No I'm not typing in all caps, there.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: guitardude3]
    #22105237 - 08/18/15 02:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Different strokes different folks, I personally dislike MDMA, I find that I can't get into the experience because it fabricates emotions that I'd rather achieve naturally or through an insightful psychedelic experience, which to me is as close to natural as possible.

I'd say if you're happy with where you're at now, leave it as is.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: LiquidVisions] * 1
    #22105240 - 08/18/15 02:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Take LSD and then take MDMA about 1 hour later. It will be worth it. You may not feel great the next day, but it'll be worth it.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22105274 - 08/18/15 03:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Take LSD and then take MDMA about 1 hour later. It will be worth it. You may not feel great the next day, but it'll be worth it.



I retract my statement and second this. Candy flipping is by far one of the most amazing experiences I've had. :awecid: hit some nitrous on the peak :aweyeah::trippinbawelz:


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22105454 - 08/18/15 05:42 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I personally love MDMA and feel it's very useful for connecting with friends and family but if you're already very content with your life from an amazing LSD trip why push the envelope? For most people you will get a hangover and some sadness that follows the deficit of serotonin. My advice would be to enjoy your LSD enlightenment! MDMA will always be there if you feel the pressing need to experience the wonderful substance.




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Take LSD and then take MDMA about 1 hour later. It will be worth it. You may not feel great the next day, but it'll be worth it.



I retract my statement and second this. Candy flipping is by far one of the most amazing experiences I've had. :awecid: hit some nitrous on the peak :aweyeah::trippinbawelz:




Just dont be stupid and ignorant. Used To do lot of that stuff 10 years a go.
Now days it is couple of times a year.
and i can still destroy 5+ grams on a session while playing vinyls and Smokin changa.

DONT BURN YOUR RESEPTORS. No More than two days in a row.
and Some 5-htp next couple of days(sleep first, not when you are still rolling)


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: LeningradCowboy]
    #22105463 - 08/18/15 05:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Just got some mdma myself so :threadmonitor:


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #22105556 - 08/18/15 06:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Depressive comedowns happen for some people but not others. I never had them, ever, and I did my share of MDMA abusing.

I never lost the magic too, a bit yes but, not much.

Its key for a beginner to stick with the universal recommendations and that is 80-120mg for a dose and no more than 200mg for a session, and no more sessions that once a month at the very most but much better once every 2-12 months.

Most beginners won't have any significant detrimental effect from this, and thats why people go overboard.

WATCH OUT: there are 200mg pills in circulation, these would FRY a newbie, hit you so hard that all you can do is bear with the intensity.

For a newbie, really, shoot for 80-120mg in a dose.

My first doses were 60mg and while in retrospect underwhelming it was absolutely delicious.

Do it with your best friend(s) in a livingroom, bit of candlelight, make it cosy.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: LeningradCowboy]
    #22105671 - 08/18/15 07:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Rebelutionsssss said:
I personally love MDMA and feel it's very useful for connecting with friends and family but if you're already very content with your life from an amazing LSD trip why push the envelope? For most people you will get a hangover and some sadness that follows the deficit of serotonin. My advice would be to enjoy your LSD enlightenment! MDMA will always be there if you feel the pressing need to experience the wonderful substance.




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Take LSD and then take MDMA about 1 hour later. It will be worth it. You may not feel great the next day, but it'll be worth it.



I retract my statement and second this. Candy flipping is by far one of the most amazing experiences I've had. :awecid: hit some nitrous on the peak :aweyeah::trippinbawelz:




Just dont be stupid and ignorant. Used To do lot of that stuff 10 years a go.
Now days it is couple of times a year.
and i can still destroy 5+ grams on a session while playing vinyls and Smokin changa.

DONT BURN YOUR RESEPTORS. No More than two days in a row.
and Some 5-htp next couple of days(sleep first, not when you are still rolling)


you're calling me ignorant but you're the one eating over 5 grams of MDMA in a night/rolling multiple days in a row :lol: ppfftt yea thanks buddy but I actually get real MDMA so i think I'll be fine. You won't have to burn your receptors if you're not a tard and practice safe drug use.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22105789 - 08/18/15 08:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

No, i was referring To myself.

i have nothing against you Brother! Actually your post was quated by me because i think that as a good advice!
and i dont like fake molly (hate that name)
think that is more of a problem in states.
Not in here!

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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: LeningradCowboy]
    #22105817 - 08/18/15 08:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

you shouldn't get that bad of a hangover from rolling once.  it's pretty fun, my first couple of times were probably my favorite.  it's a new thing and it's fun.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #22105845 - 08/18/15 09:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

MDMA was always best for me separate from a psychedelic experience with a person I really care about emotionally.  Nothing beats talking, dancing, and fucking your way to bliss for a few hours with the person you really care about.  It's a tragedy they made this chemical illegal.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #22105862 - 08/18/15 09:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Whatever you do, dont take cocaine before or during the effect of the MDMA, it will ruin the finest effects of the MDMA.

MDMA makes your ego loosen, cocaine tightens it fiercely.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Asante]
    #22105872 - 08/18/15 09:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

From your earlier comment Asante, do you think 120mg would be good for my first mdma session whenever I get around to it?( I saw you say 80-120mg but IME so far it's always better to go with the higher amount) Every drug I've done everyone told me to take less and I've been underwhelmed almost every drug, I don't want to go total balls to the wall but to some extent I want to be blown away. I don't plan on redosing either.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Asante]
    #22105875 - 08/18/15 09:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Do you think that might partly have to do with the mindset of people when consuming coke? In it's unpurified form, it has been used for centuries in South America in all kinds of different rituals and stuff.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #22105885 - 08/18/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

For most people without tolerance the sweet spot is about 120mg, which was the size of the original Ecstasy pills.

First take a bit (like 5mg) and wait two hours to see if you are allergic, you should do that with any drug you test.

I think its too bold to go for 120mg the first time out if you are not completely sure its pure MDMA and if you don't know your response.

If I could have done my first time again I'd have taken 100mg, not 60.

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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22105895 - 08/18/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Do you think that might partly have to do with the mindset of people when consuming coke? In it's unpurified form, it has been used for centuries in South America in all kinds of different rituals and stuff.




No its the dose and intensity of the usage. Chewing coca leaves is social and warm, you could get me to try that, completely different drug that way, but up the nose in pure form is such a hard hit that it knocks you into yourself.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Asante]
    #22105908 - 08/18/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I can't say it's pure, but it's a tannish crystally substance that smells the way people online have described it and two reagent test came up positive for mdma so it's at the very least not totally bunk.

I'm definitely going to do the 5mg test like you said but is there a tolerance build up that would prevent me from doing it for a while? Not an issue if it does, I don't mind waiting, it makes it that much better when the time finally comes


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #22105927 - 08/18/15 09:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Tolerance from 5mg? none. You could do it, wait 2 hours then hit with whatever dose you intend and get a wee little bonus.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #22105933 - 08/18/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

IME 120-150 is like perfect. I can't believe people are eating 200+ in one drop, just seems unpleasant to me


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22105958 - 08/18/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

My main run of MDMA was 7 years. At the height of it I'd have a session where I'd spend 12 hours and in it do a gram as 100s and 150s.

I am very very sorry I never got to plug it. I hear plugging MDMA solution is ultimate :gameover:

If I see what plugged MXE does for me vs oral and translate that to what MDMA does  :itwasgoodforme:


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Asante]
    #22105995 - 08/18/15 09:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:seriousthumbsup: might have to check it out


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22106263 - 08/18/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

First few times you do mdma you prob won't feel those awful hangovers if you get the good shit and do a moderate dose. I've only recently felt my very first backlash of an MDMA hangover after taking 600mg. I was really depressed for two days and I would not stop having tremors, muscle spasms, and I had mild hallucinations and vibrations in my head.

Trust me dude if you do MDMA right with people you love and you know how to have a good time and make sure to space your rolls and not go overboard with the dosage like I do you will be more then fine. The MDMA hangover thing is exaggerated, people act like doing it once will leave you horribly drained and depressed. It only happens when you put yourself in bad situations or go overboard and abuse it.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: guitardude3]
    #22106289 - 08/18/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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MDMA < LSD, IMHO. No I'm not typing in all caps, there.



Tryptamines>MDMA>LSD

I love LSD but MDMA is by far my favorite drug. MDMA has just had the strongest impact on my social life and personality. I think MDMA is just the most hands on drug and it is the best for applying to your own life. I can't compare mdma to real psychedelics because those drugs help me
With enlightenment and what not but MDMA directly deals in augmenting things like my personality, my ability socialize, etc. It's hard to explain but overall I would consider mdma my favorite drug because it's so universally positive for me while psychedelics can give you negative mental effects more often.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Asante]
    #22106296 - 08/18/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Plugged MDMA is fucking sweet tits!


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #22106458 - 08/18/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I could probably.Google this but since this thread is already here, I got mdma crystal instead of presses or pills, do I jus weigh out 120-130mg and put it in a gelcap? Or can I jus dump it in my mouth lol


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
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Either one just don't get it stuck in your molars though that's usually chewing pills but still


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: abltsandwich]
    #22106488 - 08/18/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What we used to do was get a shotglass with warm water and a teaspoon. We stirred the MDMA into a shotglass and slammed it down on an empty stomach. This method makes the most out of oral dosing.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Asante]
    #22106924 - 08/18/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

200-1000mg doses nowdays to gain proper effects. and still be functional.
I fried my synapses years ago.
NOT A THING TO BE PROUD OF.
That is why i`m saying do not roll more then 2 days in row MAXIMUM.
Eat tryptofan afterwards. NOT DURING.
Let your body rest between sessions or you will loose that magic.
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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: LeningradCowboy]
    #22106940 - 08/18/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So like once every 6-12 months is good? Because I won't be taking it more than that.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #22106957 - 08/18/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

yes.
no problem.
Just know your source and dosage.
most people i see are satisfied with 100-200mg
single dosage.
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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: LeningradCowboy]
    #22107017 - 08/18/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

MDMA is such an incredible substance, but it must be taken properly. The key to avoiding a bad hangover for me is to only re-dose once, if at all. The first few times you take it, it feels so damn amazing, the urge to re-dose multiple times in a night is high. That's when things get ugly the following days. Also, MDMA can make a boring night good, but a fun night unbelievably amazing. So good people and a good setting is key.

Also, try not to use it too often. For many people, like myself, the magic goes away after using it too much.

Sounds like you've been doing your Homework. That's a good thing. Too many people jump into these things not knowing a damn thing, and that can be dangerous.

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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Asante]
    #22107028 - 08/18/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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What we used to do was get a shotglass with warm water and a teaspoon. We stirred the MDMA into a shotglass and slammed it down on an empty stomach. This method makes the most out of oral dosing.




Does it make it last less time?


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: mollymadman]
    #22107655 - 08/18/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hits you faster and harder but lasts slightly less


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22107809 - 08/18/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Hits you faster and harder but lasts slightly less





This. It hits you better though, you get more bang out of it than with slower or more diffuse absorption.

OH how I regret not having plugged it.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Asante] * 2
    #22107817 - 08/18/15 05:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:picard:  Is there anything you don't regret not putting in your ass?


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22107841 - 08/18/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Funny :smile:

From the reports it prolongs and intensifies the experience, it makes it more potent so less can be used and it kickstarts the effects in a really awesome way, like it does just about any drug.

I also really really regret having smoked so little hashish in my cannabis years.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Asante]
    #22107884 - 08/18/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I dunno man. When it comes to E I'm all about duration of roll. I might try plugging one day, but the whole thing just seems kinda gross


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Asante]
    #22107893 - 08/18/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Funny :smile:

From the reports it prolongs and intensifies the experience, it makes it more potent so less can be used and it kickstarts the effects in a really awesome way, like it does just about any drug.

I also really really regret having smoked so little hashish in my cannabis years.



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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22108220 - 08/18/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Just eat it.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: LeningradCowboy]
    #22108225 - 08/18/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Done that as well.  One time my cousin had some hash that was absolute shit smoked so in desperation we ate it.  Trashed for 24 hours.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22108306 - 08/18/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

was talking about the crystal. but yeah works beautifully with hash all so


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #22108390 - 08/18/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Hey everyone after a my last few acid trips I feel like my life is in place. Ive never felt so in touch with the world and just mentally normal. It feels great but recently I've been thinking about doing MDMA. I'm fascinated as I hope that it will solidify my genuine happiness. The only problem is that I can't handle sadness. When I get sad it's bad and I don't want that to happen for a few days after,in fear that I'll get on a self destructive path again. If I do MDMA for the first time will I have those hangovers that everyone speaks of? If so how bad are they? Thanks :smile:





Haven't read through the thread yet but I'll give my advice



MDMA is something you will never regret doing. Honestly I would take it over a psychedelic any day.

Such a fucking amazing drug, thank you shulgin for rediscovering it.



It will allow you to experience pure love and happiness. It is forced but it still feels completely genuine.



The comedowns have a lot to do with how much you take. If it's your first time, I would just take a 140-160mg roll and call it a night. Hide the rest because I have always found that the compulsion to redose MDMA is extremely strong. Once you start to feel the peak wear off, you just want it to go on forever. Just let it die down and soon you'll be very tired if it is real MDMA. Sleep will come VERY easily after a roll. You will fall asleep as soon as you hit your bed and I usually find myself sleeping for 10-12 hours. That first night after a roll is where most of the recovering is being done so make sure you get GOOD, long rest.

I only get a hangover if I take over 400mg a night, but I DEFINITELY wouldn't call it a depressed feeling. A better way for me to describe what it feels like to me is just a lack of all emotions in general, and you will be VERY tired. Take some 5-HTP, it helps LOADS. If you take it as soon as you wake up, even with a bad hangover you will only feel like shit for 2-3 hours before the 5HTP starts rapidly replenishing the lost serotonin.



I have suffered from extreme depression, mood swings, and anger in the past. While I don't get any of it often anymore, I also don't get it after a roll surprisingly.



If you want a perfect experience, pick up some antioxidants and multivitamins to take the days before and during your roll (magnesium as well, I take 200mg 2 hours before, 200mg during, and 100mg 6 hours after dosing, helps with jaw as I get BAD bruxism on a roll). Get some 5HTP like I said for AFTER your roll and any sort of hangover will be mitigated GREATLY.




ENJOY THE MDMA! It is my favorite drug nowadays. Should rename my profile to Gottalovemdma haha :smile:


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #22108514 - 08/18/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Hey everyone after a my last few acid trips I feel like my life is in place. Ive never felt so in touch with the world and just mentally normal. It feels great but recently I've been thinking about doing MDMA. I'm fascinated as I hope that it will solidify my genuine happiness. The only problem is that I can't handle sadness. When I get sad it's bad and I don't want that to happen for a few days after,in fear that I'll get on a self destructive path again. If I do MDMA for the first time will I have those hangovers that everyone speaks of? If so how bad are they? Thanks :smile:





Haven't read through the thread yet but I'll give my advice



MDMA is something you will never regret doing. Honestly I would take it over a psychedelic any day.

Such a fucking amazing drug, thank you shulgin for rediscovering it.



It will allow you to experience pure love and happiness. It is forced but it still feels completely genuine.



The comedowns have a lot to do with how much you take. If it's your first time, I would just take a 140-160mg roll and call it a night. Hide the rest because I have always found that the compulsion to redose MDMA is extremely strong. Once you start to feel the peak wear off, you just want it to go on forever. Just let it die down and soon you'll be very tired if it is real MDMA. Sleep will come VERY easily after a roll. You will fall asleep as soon as you hit your bed and I usually find myself sleeping for 10-12 hours. That first night after a roll is where most of the recovering is being done so make sure you get GOOD, long rest.

I only get a hangover if I take over 400mg a night, but I DEFINITELY wouldn't call it a depressed feeling. A better way for me to describe what it feels like to me is just a lack of all emotions in general, and you will be VERY tired. Take some 5-HTP, it helps LOADS. If you take it as soon as you wake up, even with a bad hangover you will only feel like shit for 2-3 hours before the 5HTP starts rapidly replenishing the lost serotonin.



I have suffered from extreme depression, mood swings, and anger in the past. While I don't get any of it often anymore, I also don't get it after a roll surprisingly.



If you want a perfect experience, pick up some antioxidants and multivitamins to take the days before and during your roll (magnesium as well, I take 200mg 2 hours before, 200mg during, and 100mg 6 hours after dosing, helps with jaw as I get BAD bruxism on a roll). Get some 5HTP like I said for AFTER your roll and any sort of hangover will be mitigated GREATLY.




ENJOY THE MDMA! It is my favorite drug nowadays. Should rename my profile to Gottalovemdma haha :smile:



Follow this if you want to have a perfect MDMA experience!!!! Higher doses mean more hangover, less is more with this amazing substance!


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22108587 - 08/18/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well I appreciate all the replys. I want to do it in a setting with this lady friend of mine. I am strongly considering trying it but then again I don't want to chase happiness I want it to come my way naturally. As happy as psychedelics make me its because they teach me how to be instead of forcing it which is why i'm iffy about MDMA. I think i'll try it one day but I'm going to live in my sober happiness for a while. I'll definitely get some in a month or two and give it a go. Probably for my birthday but I also wanna do shrooms. How's hippy flipping?


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #22108610 - 08/18/15 08:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

MDMA with a woman you care about is godly. It's honestly the most connected you can be with another person as long as what you have is pure MDMA. The comedown is really not bad at all if you take some vitamins and watch your dosage. All the horror story's are from people eating grams in a night and as long as you avoid that the drained feeling is no more than an alcohol hangover if not better.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #22108638 - 08/18/15 09:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

In my experience when I candy flip I have almost no come down if any. On mdma by its self I have a comedown though. Candy flipping is an experience all its own, but I think you should try mdma on its own too


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #22108641 - 08/18/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Well I appreciate all the replys. I want to do it in a setting with this lady friend of mine. I am strongly considering trying it but then again I don't want to chase happiness I want it to come my way naturally. As happy as psychedelics make me its because they teach me how to be instead of forcing it which is why i'm iffy about MDMA. I think i'll try it one day but I'm going to live in my sober happiness for a while. I'll definitely get some in a month or two and give it a go. Probably for my birthday but I also wanna do shrooms. How's hippy flipping?





Totally understandable man. The happiness and love psychedelics give is much more natural and "real" than MDMA in the sense that you have to find it yourself rather than have the drug give it to you. Psychs are a strong tool for exploration and MDMA is certainly "to the point".

I don't think it will leave you chasing the happiness though. Whenever I roll, the memories I have from the experience never leave me and they bring cheer to my days all the time. I find MDMA can be used similarly to a psychedelic in the sense that you can use it to help you even after the drug has worn off but it is very easy to get lost in the experience. Might take a few rolls to really gain a long lasting impression of what it has to offer, but it has helped me rebuild my emotions and rid myself of what is left of my social anxiety.


Taking it with a lady friend is always nice. I have only had the pleasure to do that once, but it was amazing. If you have a good stereo in your house it is nice even if the goal is to bond with someone else, I found that I re-fell in love with music after I used MDMA similarly to how I did after taking a psychedelic.


Save it for whenever you feel is best. When the time comes, you will know. Just like with psychedelics, don't try to rush into it.


Haven't hippie flipped but I have candy flipped twice. I would 100% wait until you have experience with just MDMA before you combine it with a psychedelic though.  I didn't candy flip until I had a good 20 trips and 5-6 rolls in me and it STILL kicked my ass, HARD! Not for the feint of heart! I hear hippie flipping is just a small step below a candyflip, the LSD visuals and mindset blend a bit better than shrooms from what I gather. Also a bit easier on the head, I hear MDMA takes away most of the shroo mindfuckery but from what I have read, it is still there.


I really do wish you the best of luck though. I almost wish I could be there haha, I love seeing people on their first roll. Makes me so fucking happy seeing others experience MDMA, I always like to bring an extra roll or two to share with others who seem interested enough.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #22108701 - 08/18/15 09:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:awehigh: you sound just like me my man haha I feel the exact same way


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22109116 - 08/18/15 10:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thank You guys so much. You've been really helpful. I've never really understood MDMA. I've seen friends on it and it got weird. Maybe cause I was frying but it was strange. I've also been around people rolling while on shrooms and that got weird as well. How ever I've done LSA and I feel like there is no way to be that happy with any other substance. I actually considered extracting it and using it as people would use MDMA. Does MDMA have any visuals? I hear people call it a trip sometimes does it fit? I would prefer MDA but the chances of finding that are slim for me.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #22109146 - 08/18/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Thank You guys so much. You've been really helpful. I've never really understood MDMA. I've seen friends on it and it got weird. Maybe cause I was frying but it was strange. I've also been around people rolling while on shrooms and that got weird as well. How ever I've done LSA and I feel like there is no way to be that happy with any other substance. I actually considered extracting it and using it as people would use MDMA. Does MDMA have any visuals? I hear people call it a trip sometimes does it fit? I would prefer MDA but the chances of finding that are slim for me.




Seeing someone who is rolling balls is kind of unsettling if you haven't actually tried it before, it does make you look really fucked up if you start dosing over 200mg  especially but once you do MDMA you just know the more fucked up they look the more fun they're having haha

This is what it looks like when I start dosing over 200mg




If you do it at a concert you might get a weird look or two to someone who has never seen someone rolling, but most people will know you're having a good time.

As far as visuals go, it can definitely give you them. It's actually hard to see them because your eyes are moving like crazy but if you close your eyes you will for sure notice them, especially if you have tripped a few times in the past. My last roll I took a 180mg roll and another 180mg 3 hours later and I was getting pretty obvious open eyed visuals, mostly geometry flying through the air


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #22109316 - 08/19/15 12:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Holly crap thats what everyone at EDC looked like! Thats what I mean when it looks crazy to me especially while tripping but I wouldn't care too much if I'm home. Geometry flying through the air sounds kick ass to me man. Gottaa try this soon thanks for all the help man.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #22109323 - 08/19/15 12:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You're gonna love it bro. Don't forget to lay down on some grass and have a long heart to heart with whoever you're rolling with. Those talks could literally go on for decades :heart:


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22109368 - 08/19/15 12:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you so much too man! I can't wait to get into this!


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