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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22108220 - 08/18/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Just eat it.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: LeningradCowboy]
    #22108225 - 08/18/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Done that as well.  One time my cousin had some hash that was absolute shit smoked so in desperation we ate it.  Trashed for 24 hours.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22108306 - 08/18/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

was talking about the crystal. but yeah works beautifully with hash all so


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #22108390 - 08/18/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Hey everyone after a my last few acid trips I feel like my life is in place. Ive never felt so in touch with the world and just mentally normal. It feels great but recently I've been thinking about doing MDMA. I'm fascinated as I hope that it will solidify my genuine happiness. The only problem is that I can't handle sadness. When I get sad it's bad and I don't want that to happen for a few days after,in fear that I'll get on a self destructive path again. If I do MDMA for the first time will I have those hangovers that everyone speaks of? If so how bad are they? Thanks :smile:





Haven't read through the thread yet but I'll give my advice



MDMA is something you will never regret doing. Honestly I would take it over a psychedelic any day.

Such a fucking amazing drug, thank you shulgin for rediscovering it.



It will allow you to experience pure love and happiness. It is forced but it still feels completely genuine.



The comedowns have a lot to do with how much you take. If it's your first time, I would just take a 140-160mg roll and call it a night. Hide the rest because I have always found that the compulsion to redose MDMA is extremely strong. Once you start to feel the peak wear off, you just want it to go on forever. Just let it die down and soon you'll be very tired if it is real MDMA. Sleep will come VERY easily after a roll. You will fall asleep as soon as you hit your bed and I usually find myself sleeping for 10-12 hours. That first night after a roll is where most of the recovering is being done so make sure you get GOOD, long rest.

I only get a hangover if I take over 400mg a night, but I DEFINITELY wouldn't call it a depressed feeling. A better way for me to describe what it feels like to me is just a lack of all emotions in general, and you will be VERY tired. Take some 5-HTP, it helps LOADS. If you take it as soon as you wake up, even with a bad hangover you will only feel like shit for 2-3 hours before the 5HTP starts rapidly replenishing the lost serotonin.



I have suffered from extreme depression, mood swings, and anger in the past. While I don't get any of it often anymore, I also don't get it after a roll surprisingly.



If you want a perfect experience, pick up some antioxidants and multivitamins to take the days before and during your roll (magnesium as well, I take 200mg 2 hours before, 200mg during, and 100mg 6 hours after dosing, helps with jaw as I get BAD bruxism on a roll). Get some 5HTP like I said for AFTER your roll and any sort of hangover will be mitigated GREATLY.




ENJOY THE MDMA! It is my favorite drug nowadays. Should rename my profile to Gottalovemdma haha :smile:


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #22108514 - 08/18/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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LiquidVisions said:
Hey everyone after a my last few acid trips I feel like my life is in place. Ive never felt so in touch with the world and just mentally normal. It feels great but recently I've been thinking about doing MDMA. I'm fascinated as I hope that it will solidify my genuine happiness. The only problem is that I can't handle sadness. When I get sad it's bad and I don't want that to happen for a few days after,in fear that I'll get on a self destructive path again. If I do MDMA for the first time will I have those hangovers that everyone speaks of? If so how bad are they? Thanks :smile:





Haven't read through the thread yet but I'll give my advice



MDMA is something you will never regret doing. Honestly I would take it over a psychedelic any day.

Such a fucking amazing drug, thank you shulgin for rediscovering it.



It will allow you to experience pure love and happiness. It is forced but it still feels completely genuine.



The comedowns have a lot to do with how much you take. If it's your first time, I would just take a 140-160mg roll and call it a night. Hide the rest because I have always found that the compulsion to redose MDMA is extremely strong. Once you start to feel the peak wear off, you just want it to go on forever. Just let it die down and soon you'll be very tired if it is real MDMA. Sleep will come VERY easily after a roll. You will fall asleep as soon as you hit your bed and I usually find myself sleeping for 10-12 hours. That first night after a roll is where most of the recovering is being done so make sure you get GOOD, long rest.

I only get a hangover if I take over 400mg a night, but I DEFINITELY wouldn't call it a depressed feeling. A better way for me to describe what it feels like to me is just a lack of all emotions in general, and you will be VERY tired. Take some 5-HTP, it helps LOADS. If you take it as soon as you wake up, even with a bad hangover you will only feel like shit for 2-3 hours before the 5HTP starts rapidly replenishing the lost serotonin.



I have suffered from extreme depression, mood swings, and anger in the past. While I don't get any of it often anymore, I also don't get it after a roll surprisingly.



If you want a perfect experience, pick up some antioxidants and multivitamins to take the days before and during your roll (magnesium as well, I take 200mg 2 hours before, 200mg during, and 100mg 6 hours after dosing, helps with jaw as I get BAD bruxism on a roll). Get some 5HTP like I said for AFTER your roll and any sort of hangover will be mitigated GREATLY.




ENJOY THE MDMA! It is my favorite drug nowadays. Should rename my profile to Gottalovemdma haha :smile:



Follow this if you want to have a perfect MDMA experience!!!! Higher doses mean more hangover, less is more with this amazing substance!


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22108587 - 08/18/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well I appreciate all the replys. I want to do it in a setting with this lady friend of mine. I am strongly considering trying it but then again I don't want to chase happiness I want it to come my way naturally. As happy as psychedelics make me its because they teach me how to be instead of forcing it which is why i'm iffy about MDMA. I think i'll try it one day but I'm going to live in my sober happiness for a while. I'll definitely get some in a month or two and give it a go. Probably for my birthday but I also wanna do shrooms. How's hippy flipping?


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #22108610 - 08/18/15 08:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

MDMA with a woman you care about is godly. It's honestly the most connected you can be with another person as long as what you have is pure MDMA. The comedown is really not bad at all if you take some vitamins and watch your dosage. All the horror story's are from people eating grams in a night and as long as you avoid that the drained feeling is no more than an alcohol hangover if not better.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #22108638 - 08/18/15 09:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

In my experience when I candy flip I have almost no come down if any. On mdma by its self I have a comedown though. Candy flipping is an experience all its own, but I think you should try mdma on its own too


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #22108641 - 08/18/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Well I appreciate all the replys. I want to do it in a setting with this lady friend of mine. I am strongly considering trying it but then again I don't want to chase happiness I want it to come my way naturally. As happy as psychedelics make me its because they teach me how to be instead of forcing it which is why i'm iffy about MDMA. I think i'll try it one day but I'm going to live in my sober happiness for a while. I'll definitely get some in a month or two and give it a go. Probably for my birthday but I also wanna do shrooms. How's hippy flipping?





Totally understandable man. The happiness and love psychedelics give is much more natural and "real" than MDMA in the sense that you have to find it yourself rather than have the drug give it to you. Psychs are a strong tool for exploration and MDMA is certainly "to the point".

I don't think it will leave you chasing the happiness though. Whenever I roll, the memories I have from the experience never leave me and they bring cheer to my days all the time. I find MDMA can be used similarly to a psychedelic in the sense that you can use it to help you even after the drug has worn off but it is very easy to get lost in the experience. Might take a few rolls to really gain a long lasting impression of what it has to offer, but it has helped me rebuild my emotions and rid myself of what is left of my social anxiety.


Taking it with a lady friend is always nice. I have only had the pleasure to do that once, but it was amazing. If you have a good stereo in your house it is nice even if the goal is to bond with someone else, I found that I re-fell in love with music after I used MDMA similarly to how I did after taking a psychedelic.


Save it for whenever you feel is best. When the time comes, you will know. Just like with psychedelics, don't try to rush into it.


Haven't hippie flipped but I have candy flipped twice. I would 100% wait until you have experience with just MDMA before you combine it with a psychedelic though.  I didn't candy flip until I had a good 20 trips and 5-6 rolls in me and it STILL kicked my ass, HARD! Not for the feint of heart! I hear hippie flipping is just a small step below a candyflip, the LSD visuals and mindset blend a bit better than shrooms from what I gather. Also a bit easier on the head, I hear MDMA takes away most of the shroo mindfuckery but from what I have read, it is still there.


I really do wish you the best of luck though. I almost wish I could be there haha, I love seeing people on their first roll. Makes me so fucking happy seeing others experience MDMA, I always like to bring an extra roll or two to share with others who seem interested enough.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #22108701 - 08/18/15 09:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:awehigh: you sound just like me my man haha I feel the exact same way


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22109116 - 08/18/15 10:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thank You guys so much. You've been really helpful. I've never really understood MDMA. I've seen friends on it and it got weird. Maybe cause I was frying but it was strange. I've also been around people rolling while on shrooms and that got weird as well. How ever I've done LSA and I feel like there is no way to be that happy with any other substance. I actually considered extracting it and using it as people would use MDMA. Does MDMA have any visuals? I hear people call it a trip sometimes does it fit? I would prefer MDA but the chances of finding that are slim for me.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #22109146 - 08/18/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Thank You guys so much. You've been really helpful. I've never really understood MDMA. I've seen friends on it and it got weird. Maybe cause I was frying but it was strange. I've also been around people rolling while on shrooms and that got weird as well. How ever I've done LSA and I feel like there is no way to be that happy with any other substance. I actually considered extracting it and using it as people would use MDMA. Does MDMA have any visuals? I hear people call it a trip sometimes does it fit? I would prefer MDA but the chances of finding that are slim for me.




Seeing someone who is rolling balls is kind of unsettling if you haven't actually tried it before, it does make you look really fucked up if you start dosing over 200mg  especially but once you do MDMA you just know the more fucked up they look the more fun they're having haha

This is what it looks like when I start dosing over 200mg




If you do it at a concert you might get a weird look or two to someone who has never seen someone rolling, but most people will know you're having a good time.

As far as visuals go, it can definitely give you them. It's actually hard to see them because your eyes are moving like crazy but if you close your eyes you will for sure notice them, especially if you have tripped a few times in the past. My last roll I took a 180mg roll and another 180mg 3 hours later and I was getting pretty obvious open eyed visuals, mostly geometry flying through the air


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #22109316 - 08/19/15 12:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Holly crap thats what everyone at EDC looked like! Thats what I mean when it looks crazy to me especially while tripping but I wouldn't care too much if I'm home. Geometry flying through the air sounds kick ass to me man. Gottaa try this soon thanks for all the help man.


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #22109323 - 08/19/15 12:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You're gonna love it bro. Don't forget to lay down on some grass and have a long heart to heart with whoever you're rolling with. Those talks could literally go on for decades :heart:


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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22109368 - 08/19/15 12:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you so much too man! I can't wait to get into this!


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