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MDMA for the first time?
#22105097 - 08/18/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey everyone after a my last few acid trips I feel like my life is in place. Ive never felt so in touch with the world and just mentally normal. It feels great but recently I've been thinking about doing MDMA. I'm fascinated as I hope that it will solidify my genuine happiness. The only problem is that I can't handle sadness. When I get sad it's bad and I don't want that to happen for a few days after,in fear that I'll get on a self destructive path again. If I do MDMA for the first time will I have those hangovers that everyone speaks of? If so how bad are they? Thanks
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Rebelutionsssss
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I personally love MDMA and feel it's very useful for connecting with friends and family but if you're already very content with your life from an amazing LSD trip why push the envelope? For most people you will get a hangover and some sadness that follows the deficit of serotonin. My advice would be to enjoy your LSD enlightenment! MDMA will always be there if you feel the pressing need to experience the wonderful substance.
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MDMA < LSD, IMHO. No I'm not typing in all caps, there.
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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: guitardude3]
#22105237 - 08/18/15 02:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Different strokes different folks, I personally dislike MDMA, I find that I can't get into the experience because it fabricates emotions that I'd rather achieve naturally or through an insightful psychedelic experience, which to me is as close to natural as possible.
I'd say if you're happy with where you're at now, leave it as is.
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Take LSD and then take MDMA about 1 hour later. It will be worth it. You may not feel great the next day, but it'll be worth it.
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Rebelutionsssss
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nicechrisman said: Take LSD and then take MDMA about 1 hour later. It will be worth it. You may not feel great the next day, but it'll be worth it.
I retract my statement and second this. Candy flipping is by far one of the most amazing experiences I've had. hit some nitrous on the peak 
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Rebelutionsssss said: I personally love MDMA and feel it's very useful for connecting with friends and family but if you're already very content with your life from an amazing LSD trip why push the envelope? For most people you will get a hangover and some sadness that follows the deficit of serotonin. My advice would be to enjoy your LSD enlightenment! MDMA will always be there if you feel the pressing need to experience the wonderful substance.
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Rebelutionsssss said:
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nicechrisman said: Take LSD and then take MDMA about 1 hour later. It will be worth it. You may not feel great the next day, but it'll be worth it.
I retract my statement and second this. Candy flipping is by far one of the most amazing experiences I've had. hit some nitrous on the peak  
Just dont be stupid and ignorant. Used To do lot of that stuff 10 years a go. Now days it is couple of times a year. and i can still destroy 5+ grams on a session while playing vinyls and Smokin changa.
DONT BURN YOUR RESEPTORS. No More than two days in a row. and Some 5-htp next couple of days(sleep first, not when you are still rolling)
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Just got some mdma myself so
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Asante
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Depressive comedowns happen for some people but not others. I never had them, ever, and I did my share of MDMA abusing.
I never lost the magic too, a bit yes but, not much.
Its key for a beginner to stick with the universal recommendations and that is 80-120mg for a dose and no more than 200mg for a session, and no more sessions that once a month at the very most but much better once every 2-12 months.
Most beginners won't have any significant detrimental effect from this, and thats why people go overboard.
WATCH OUT: there are 200mg pills in circulation, these would FRY a newbie, hit you so hard that all you can do is bear with the intensity.
For a newbie, really, shoot for 80-120mg in a dose.
My first doses were 60mg and while in retrospect underwhelming it was absolutely delicious.
Do it with your best friend(s) in a livingroom, bit of candlelight, make it cosy.
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Rebelutionsssss
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LeningradCowboy said:
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Rebelutionsssss said: I personally love MDMA and feel it's very useful for connecting with friends and family but if you're already very content with your life from an amazing LSD trip why push the envelope? For most people you will get a hangover and some sadness that follows the deficit of serotonin. My advice would be to enjoy your LSD enlightenment! MDMA will always be there if you feel the pressing need to experience the wonderful substance.
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nicechrisman said: Take LSD and then take MDMA about 1 hour later. It will be worth it. You may not feel great the next day, but it'll be worth it.
I retract my statement and second this. Candy flipping is by far one of the most amazing experiences I've had. hit some nitrous on the peak  
Just dont be stupid and ignorant. Used To do lot of that stuff 10 years a go. Now days it is couple of times a year. and i can still destroy 5+ grams on a session while playing vinyls and Smokin changa.
DONT BURN YOUR RESEPTORS. No More than two days in a row. and Some 5-htp next couple of days(sleep first, not when you are still rolling)
you're calling me ignorant but you're the one eating over 5 grams of MDMA in a night/rolling multiple days in a row ppfftt yea thanks buddy but I actually get real MDMA so i think I'll be fine. You won't have to burn your receptors if you're not a tard and practice safe drug use.
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No, i was referring To myself.
i have nothing against you Brother! Actually your post was quated by me because i think that as a good advice! and i dont like fake molly (hate that name) think that is more of a problem in states. Not in here!
Anyway peace&love
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you shouldn't get that bad of a hangover from rolling once. it's pretty fun, my first couple of times were probably my favorite. it's a new thing and it's fun.
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MDMA was always best for me separate from a psychedelic experience with a person I really care about emotionally. Nothing beats talking, dancing, and fucking your way to bliss for a few hours with the person you really care about. It's a tragedy they made this chemical illegal.
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Asante
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Whatever you do, dont take cocaine before or during the effect of the MDMA, it will ruin the finest effects of the MDMA.
MDMA makes your ego loosen, cocaine tightens it fiercely.
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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Asante]
#22105872 - 08/18/15 09:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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From your earlier comment Asante, do you think 120mg would be good for my first mdma session whenever I get around to it?( I saw you say 80-120mg but IME so far it's always better to go with the higher amount) Every drug I've done everyone told me to take less and I've been underwhelmed almost every drug, I don't want to go total balls to the wall but to some extent I want to be blown away. I don't plan on redosing either.
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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Asante]
#22105875 - 08/18/15 09:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do you think that might partly have to do with the mindset of people when consuming coke? In it's unpurified form, it has been used for centuries in South America in all kinds of different rituals and stuff.
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For most people without tolerance the sweet spot is about 120mg, which was the size of the original Ecstasy pills.
First take a bit (like 5mg) and wait two hours to see if you are allergic, you should do that with any drug you test.
I think its too bold to go for 120mg the first time out if you are not completely sure its pure MDMA and if you don't know your response.
If I could have done my first time again I'd have taken 100mg, not 60.
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Asante
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nicechrisman said: Do you think that might partly have to do with the mindset of people when consuming coke? In it's unpurified form, it has been used for centuries in South America in all kinds of different rituals and stuff.
No its the dose and intensity of the usage. Chewing coca leaves is social and warm, you could get me to try that, completely different drug that way, but up the nose in pure form is such a hard hit that it knocks you into yourself.
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Re: MDMA for the first time? [Re: Asante]
#22105908 - 08/18/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah I can't say it's pure, but it's a tannish crystally substance that smells the way people online have described it and two reagent test came up positive for mdma so it's at the very least not totally bunk.
I'm definitely going to do the 5mg test like you said but is there a tolerance build up that would prevent me from doing it for a while? Not an issue if it does, I don't mind waiting, it makes it that much better when the time finally comes
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Asante
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Tolerance from 5mg? none. You could do it, wait 2 hours then hit with whatever dose you intend and get a wee little bonus.
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