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Re: Just got a pretty awesome compliment in Aikido class [Re: LeningradCowboy]
#22105609 - 08/18/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Who, me?
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Re: Just got a pretty awesome compliment in Aikido class [Re: Asante]
#22105615 - 08/18/15 07:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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No , friskie.
ASANTE I liKe your boogie. seems To me that you have golden heart.
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Re: Just got a pretty awesome compliment in Aikido class [Re: LeningradCowboy]
#22105621 - 08/18/15 07:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks 
Friskie was deliberately bragging though, to make a point.
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Re: Just got a pretty awesome compliment in Aikido class [Re: Asante]
#22105629 - 08/18/15 07:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Saying you have an impenetrable anus is kinda like proclaiming "Not Even God Can Sink This Ship".
Its an invitation to prove you wrong.
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Re: Just got a pretty awesome compliment in Aikido class [Re: Asante]
#22105685 - 08/18/15 07:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think he wants you to try.
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Re: Just got a pretty awesome compliment in Aikido class [Re: Asante]
#22105739 - 08/18/15 08:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Asante said: Thanks 
Friskie was deliberately bragging though, to make a point.
 I think you guys missed this part..
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the ancient art of bulshite..
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Re: Just got a pretty awesome compliment in Aikido class [Re: nicechrisman]
#22105747 - 08/18/15 08:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ever grapple with a Gracie jiu jitsu player? Ive never gotten aikido. Is there any kind of sparring? It doesn't seem like it.
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Re: Just got a pretty awesome compliment in Aikido class [Re: Matt87]
#22105761 - 08/18/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The last time one of my friends told me that Aikido didn't work, I submitted him into a wrist lock in seconds. He's a burly dude who wrestled all through highschool and was a long time bouncer.
I've trained with a few ex BJJ guys who came to the dojo. It does work very well.
The bottom line though is that it is a physical and spiritual exercise that has greatly contributed to the quality and enjoyment of my life. I'm not trying to be an ultimate fighter. I haven't been in a fight since I was in Junior High, and expect that I never will be.
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Re: Just got a pretty awesome compliment in Aikido class [Re: friskie]
#22105824 - 08/18/15 08:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I got that
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Re: Just got a pretty awesome compliment in Aikido class [Re: nicechrisman]
#22106100 - 08/18/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's really cool. Aikido is related to judo, jujitsu, tai chi, and other arts. The similarity is that you don't use strength to overcome the opponents, you use leverage and their momentum against them. The higher levels of aikido much like higher levels of other arts use chi, also called ki, ji, etc, to bring about the result.
Chi is learned through proper technique, relaxation and focus. It seems counter intuitive to be relaxed when faced with violence but the one who is relaxed sees what to do and does it almost instantly. A chi master can knock you down without even touching you or just barely touching. Even karate teaches the use of chi in many of the styles. People think of karate as brute force but they also use throws and other techniques. No one style is dominant over all the others. If it were, then everyone would switch over to that style.
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Re: Just got a pretty awesome compliment in Aikido class [Re: Stonehenge]
#22106176 - 08/18/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I intend to subject to a martial art if I lose enough weight, and Aikido is one of te few I'd consider. Good stuff!
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Re: Just got a pretty awesome compliment in Aikido class [Re: Asante]
#22106186 - 08/18/15 10:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just start training man. You'll lose weight.
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Re: Just got a pretty awesome compliment in Aikido class [Re: nicechrisman]
#22106189 - 08/18/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Right now I;m too prone to injury and my mobility is too low.
But I swim, lots, to get fitter.
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Re: Just got a pretty awesome compliment in Aikido class [Re: Asante]
#22106209 - 08/18/15 11:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well if you don't feel comfortable training, I guess you should follow your intuition, but generally just about anyone can start training in Aikido. I've seen all assortment of people over the years. Most teachers will work with you if they understand your condition.
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Re: Just got a pretty awesome compliment in Aikido class [Re: nicechrisman]
#22106218 - 08/18/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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In that "just about" is a caveat. I'm in there, I am really in poor shape.
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Re: Just got a pretty awesome compliment in Aikido class [Re: Asante]
#22106234 - 08/18/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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How does the teacher know when you are ready for another belt?
How does the teacher know how to test you for another belt? Do he hold back his punches less and less or something?
I have no clue how that works. Enlighten me OP.
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Re: Just got a pretty awesome compliment in Aikido class [Re: Patlal]
#22106254 - 08/18/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well he's been training in martial arts for 65 years, so I can't pretend to understand his level of understanding about such things. Generally there's a certain number of hours a student must train to be able to be considered for advancement to the next level, but even if these hours are met, it's still up to the judgement of the teacher to decide if the student is ready to advance.
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Re: Just got a pretty awesome compliment in Aikido class [Re: Patlal] 1
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Patlal said: How does the teacher know when you are ready for another belt?
How does the teacher know how to test you for another belt? Do he hold back his punches less and less or something?
I have no clue how that works. Enlighten me OP.
I don't know how OP's teacher does things but normally they want you to train for a certain period of time, demonstrate techniques and kata, which is a series of movements and then get tested. The test would be a demonstration of those things showing you have learned the moves and do them well. For higher belts you may have to spar with an opponent or demonstrate your tech with a partner. The kata will be a long series of blocks, strikes, counters, etc depending on the style you are studying. Even soft styles usually have some strikes.
No one strikes another in class. The only exception to that is full contact classes in which they use padded gloves and kicks, sometimes body protection too. Even then you are not supposed to strike an unprotected area. Some say strike without any contact, some say light contact. You are more likely to be hurt by a beginner who doesn't know how to pull the punch or kick, than an advanced student who does.
Another way to get hurt is with the wrist and arm locks. If they do them hard you can get a sprain. Asante, I would go to classes in your area and just watch. If you see them being rough and people getting hurt, its probably run by someone not good or who has a bad teaching tec. A good class will try to make sure no one gets hurt. You also want to learn how to fall, its very very important to learn that. Start lying down and slap, sitting up, squatting, then standing and falling. In judo at least, they progress on to forward rolls in which you run and dive hitting the mat, and then roll back onto your feet.
OP, I don't mean to hijack your thread with stuff about other styles
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Re: Just got a pretty awesome compliment in Aikido class [Re: Stonehenge]
#22106689 - 08/18/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Just got a pretty awesome compliment in Aikido class [Re: Stonehenge]
#22107002 - 08/18/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: That's really cool. Aikido is related to judo, jujitsu, tai chi, and other arts. The similarity is that you don't use strength to overcome the opponents, you use leverage and their momentum against them. The higher levels of aikido much like higher levels of other arts use chi, also called ki, ji, etc, to bring about the result.
Chi is learned through proper technique, relaxation and focus. It seems counter intuitive to be relaxed when faced with violence but the one who is relaxed sees what to do and does it almost instantly. A chi master can knock you down without even touching you or just barely touching. Even karate teaches the use of chi in many of the styles. People think of karate as brute force but they also use throws and other techniques. No one style is dominant over all the others. If it were, then everyone would switch over to that style.
I'm not going to sit here and bash aikido because its rude and I don't live close enough to come change everyone's mind, but chi is bullshit. People don't get knocked down without force.
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