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In need of advice before I begin my first venture.
#22104397 - 08/17/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi shroomery! I am in need of some advice in how to break through within my trips. I have tripped well around 100 times, but each has been museum doses. I began when I was younger and it wasn't until the last 6 months or so that it has become more for myself, rather than for fun (sad and ignorant, i know, but i was young). Let my start by explaining 2 experiances that have somewhat scarred me and provided a barrier i must overcome. First was a party where my friend who had never tripped, took 3 tabs of 25i (yuck) and went from reality to another planet about 2 hours in almost instantly. This never bothered me as i figured huh, just an inexperianced tripper who put too much fuel in his rocket. The second refuses to leave the back of my mind whenever I trip. One night, me and one of my very close friends who I had tripped with over 20 times took 2 tabs of wonderful LSD. It was one of my rather stronger trips and you could say the same about him... We were in my room about 2 hours in and he said something strange and then said he needed to go outside. Thinking nothing of it other than the strange remark, I followed as we proceded to a fire we had made. As soon as we got outside he asked me "are you here with me right now?". From there on out it all went downhill. He proceeded to lose his mind, venture to the gates of hell and back for about 4 hours while I did my best to comfort him. It was a very hard 4 hours as i witnessed my best friend die and come back from the grave. We discussed it for hours upon hours afterwards as he tried to describe the things he saw and lived through. The hell he went through and the things he said have forever been logged in the back of my mind and prevented me from going deeper into the psychedelic world. My question to you rather advanced trippers, is there a transition between reality and a transcendental world. In other words, when ive seen people trip out, they ventured from this world to another almost instantly, so is this the case upon tripping? say i were to eat an eigth of some very potent shrooms, would i still have perception of the real world, or would i venture far beyond where any preparation could take me. I am a very happy person, and have a wonderful, fruitful life. My problem with venturing further within my trips isnt my personal life, but rather the impact others have put on me in regards to their malicious experiances. is there a smaller dose in which i can experience deeper visuals inside myself than just things "moving and looking pretty". Thanks so much!! Happy Tripping.
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Re: In need of advice before I begin my first venture. [Re: psycheo]
#22104461 - 08/17/15 08:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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ahh cant be bothered reading your novel
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Re: In need of advice before I begin my first venture. [Re: psycheo]
#22104476 - 08/17/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Really dosing is more dependent on the potency of your shrooms and how well you can handle a shroom trip. I don't like giving dosage advice personally because of those factors. But as for the thing about others negatively impacting your tripping: on shrooms a bad trip can be stopped if you just set yourself to trying to understand why you are feeling so bad. A bad shroom trip is nothing like a bad LSD trip from what I've gathered. It's more of visuals + negative vibes that are overwhelming on a bad shroom trip. Those negative vibes can be overcome by figuring out the problem in your life that's making you feel that way whatever it may be. I've only had one negative trip like that and towards the middle of it I had a revelation and felt instantly better, there is always an under lying issue causing a bad shroom trip where as from what I've read about other psychedelics some of them can just give you a bad experience randomly it seems.
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Re: In need of advice before I begin my first venture. [Re: Dr.Satan]
#22104551 - 08/17/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thank you so much. That makes so much sense. Good vibes
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Re: In need of advice before I begin my first venture. [Re: psycheo]
#22104702 - 08/17/15 09:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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psycheo said: Hi shroomery! I am in need of some advice in how to break through within my trips. I have tripped well around 100 times, but each has been museum doses. I began when I was younger and it wasn't until the last 6 months or so that it has become more for myself, rather than for fun (sad and ignorant, i know, but i was young).
Let my start by explaining 2 experiances that have somewhat scarred me and provided a barrier i must overcome. First was a party where my friend who had never tripped, took 3 tabs of 25i (yuck) and went from reality to another planet about 2 hours in almost instantly. This never bothered me as i figured huh, just an inexperianced tripper who put too much fuel in his rocket. The second refuses to leave the back of my mind whenever I trip. One night, me and one of my very close friends who I had tripped with over 20 times took 2 tabs of wonderful LSD. It was one of my rather stronger trips and you could say the same about him... We were in my room about 2 hours in and he said something strange and then said he needed to go outside.
Thinking nothing of it other than the strange remark, I followed as we proceded to a fire we had made. As soon as we got outside he asked me "are you here with me right now?". From there on out it all went downhill. He proceeded to lose his mind, venture to the gates of hell and back for about 4 hours while I did my best to comfort him. It was a very hard 4 hours as i witnessed my best friend die and come back from the grave. We discussed it for hours upon hours afterwards as he tried to describe the things he saw and lived through.
The hell he went through and the things he said have forever been logged in the back of my mind and prevented me from going deeper into the psychedelic world. My question to you rather advanced trippers, is there a transition between reality and a transcendental world.
In other words, when ive seen people trip out, they ventured from this world to another almost instantly, so is this the case upon tripping? say i were to eat an eigth of some very potent shrooms, would i still have perception of the real world, or would i venture far beyond where any preparation could take me. I am a very happy person, and have a wonderful, fruitful life.
My problem with venturing further within my trips isnt my personal life, but rather the impact others have put on me in regards to their malicious experiances. is there a smaller dose in which i can experience deeper visuals inside myself than just things "moving and looking pretty". Thanks so much!! Happy Tripping.
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Re: In need of advice before I begin my first venture. [Re: psycheo]
#22104745 - 08/17/15 10:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok, i read your post.
Venturing deep into the psychedelic experience can be a bit daunting. One small thought could send u into a spirialing abyss of maddness.
The best way to avoid bad trips is (1) Prepare for the worrst and make sure your set/setting are comfortable and stable. And (2) live thru the bad trip and fight the thoughts. Or flow thru it and try to understand your train of tought.
One time, i made shroom smoothies and hot bud brownies and ate them together (which is delicious by the way).
At one point the combined trip was getting a little overwhelming. I knew i needed to ground myself as i was not ready for such intensity yet.
My cure was putting my hands under running water. It helped SO MUCH. So, u need to practice finding something, be it running water, a song a type of food, that grounds you. That will help you thru intense moments where u feel like you are losing your mind.
the alternative is complete submission. Accept that u are "losing it" and go with it. With full submission (not fighting it at all), u may find yourself in deep, peaceful, insighting moments of being "lost in the trip". Being lost in the trip is where the magic happens, and sometimes it takes a bit of grounding (like my running water example) or full submission (accepting that the shrooms/lsd is in full control of your experience now) to get there.
My advise is to slowly challenger yourself to stronger trips with increased dosages. Make sure your tolerance goes down so u have the fullest effect from the shrooms/lsd.
Good luck and write trip reports. I believe it helps u understand how your mind works within the Psychedelic Experience.
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Re: In need of advice before I begin my first venture. [Re: psycheo]
#22105031 - 08/18/15 12:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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psycheo said: Hi shroomery! I am in need of some advice in how to break through within my trips. I have tripped well around 100 times, but each has been museum doses. I began when I was younger and it wasn't until the last 6 months or so that it has become more for myself, rather than for fun (sad and ignorant, i know, but i was young). Let my start by explaining 2 experiances that have somewhat scarred me and provided a barrier i must overcome. First was a party where my friend who had never tripped, took 3 tabs of 25i (yuck) and went from reality to another planet about 2 hours in almost instantly. This never bothered me as i figured huh, just an inexperianced tripper who put too much fuel in his rocket. The second refuses to leave the back of my mind whenever I trip. One night, me and one of my very close friends who I had tripped with over 20 times took 2 tabs of wonderful LSD. It was one of my rather stronger trips and you could say the same about him... We were in my room about 2 hours in and he said something strange and then said he needed to go outside. Thinking nothing of it other than the strange remark, I followed as we proceded to a fire we had made. As soon as we got outside he asked me "are you here with me right now?". From there on out it all went downhill. He proceeded to lose his mind, venture to the gates of hell and back for about 4 hours while I did my best to comfort him. It was a very hard 4 hours as i witnessed my best friend die and come back from the grave. We discussed it for hours upon hours afterwards as he tried to describe the things he saw and lived through. The hell he went through and the things he said have forever been logged in the back of my mind and prevented me from going deeper into the psychedelic world. My question to you rather advanced trippers, is there a transition between reality and a transcendental world. In other words, when ive seen people trip out, they ventured from this world to another almost instantly, so is this the case upon tripping? say i were to eat an eigth of some very potent shrooms, would i still have perception of the real world, or would i venture far beyond where any preparation could take me. I am a very happy person, and have a wonderful, fruitful life. My problem with venturing further within my trips isnt my personal life, but rather the impact others have put on me in regards to their malicious experiances. is there a smaller dose in which i can experience deeper visuals inside myself than just things "moving and looking pretty". Thanks so much!! Happy Tripping.
When the trip takes you like that it takes you instantly IME. One moment ordinary grounded reality, next moment something very strange. But WHERE it takes you depends a lot on your preparation and your inner work before it happens. I've never had a trip go bad suddenly like that, never to a hell realm, but it does get hairy sometimes. I think the more experience you have the less the likelihood that will happen - mushrooms are emotional amplifiers and they'll take what's in your head already and multiply it. You need the preparation of your mind to be solid to be able to navigate those spaces without fear of bad results.
When I go back to tripping I start low and work up over the course of a few days to get my bearings again, before launching into the full blown experience. It seems to work pretty well. 
And along the lines of what LC is saying, I recite an incantation to the mushroom spirits just before I consume the tea, and during the trip, if I feel some slippage, I focus on that incantation and repeat it until things come around. It helps to have some sort of grounding ritual to take refuge in if/when things start going sideways.
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Re: In need of advice before I begin my first venture. [Re: psycheo]
#22105644 - 08/18/15 07:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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psycheo said: Hi shroomery!
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My question to you rather advanced trippers, is there a transition between reality and a transcendental world. In other words, when ive seen people trip out, they ventured from this world to another almost instantly, so is this the case upon tripping?
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My problem with venturing further within my trips isnt my personal life, but rather the impact others have put on me in regards to their malicious experiances. is there a smaller dose in which i can experience deeper visuals inside myself than just things "moving and looking pretty". Thanks so much!! Happy Tripping.
You ask about a transition, but IME there is no one-dimensional scale. I've had intense visual carnivals with heavy body loads but no mental load at all (like spirituality or fear etc). On the other hand it is possible to become entangled in a deep mental crisis on a relatively small dose, depending on set and setting. So there probably is no real single tipping point.
Carefully make explorations, going further in small steps, always in good settings, and I think you'll be fine.
About the impact others have had on you, it does sound as if their negative experiences have put some fear in you. That is understandable. But it is now your own fear and has thus, in a sense, become part of your personal life. I think that when you really face this fear it will not turn out to be bigger than you are yourself. It does not have to rule you.
How to achieve this? I find that when I want to explore the deeper visuals and the inner world, sensory deprivation is a great guide. I mean, trip in almost total darkness and silence. Drink only water and wear light clothing. Sit completely still. Only then does the inner world really open op to me. Heroic doses are not necessary for this at all.
Love, Hanz.
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