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MajickMuffin
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1:10 spawn speed Q
#22104123 - 08/17/15 07:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I hydrated and pasteurized Coco Coir into many containers and placed colonized Popcorn grain into them.
My question is, with a 1:10 spawn ratio (which is realistically more like 1:30 What is usual colonization speed of Coco Coir?
All my containers are see through so I expect to see growth from the grain here in a day or two, but I am curious about this.
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i've done 1:10 spawn to bulk with coir and had it colonized in 14 days
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MajickMuffin
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Re: 1:10 spawn speed Q [Re: cronicr]
#22104322 - 08/17/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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cronicr said: i've done 1:10 spawn to bulk with coir and had it colonized in 14 days
Cool thanks that gives me a good idea.
Im going to have a fucking blast watching this shit colonize these containers. Ive got like 6 different containers I can see all the Coco and popcorn grains its about to be cool as fuck.
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Going to hijack your thread and just ask - is it better to spawn to one bulk sub or a bunch of smaller subs?
Also how much spawn did you have OP?
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Re: 1:10 spawn speed Q [Re: bluegill]
#22104399 - 08/17/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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14 days shouldn't be a guideline. That's one person's experience. It'll take as long as it takes. It's up to your specific culture.
That being said, 14 days sounds about average.
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MajickMuffin
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Re: 1:10 spawn speed Q [Re: bluegill]
#22105889 - 08/18/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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bluegill said: Going to hijack your thread and just ask - is it better to spawn to one bulk sub or a bunch of smaller subs?
Also how much spawn did you have OP?
Im not sure on the first Q, I figured it would produce different Mycelium personalities with different traits, along with more chances for my shit to survive contamination rather than 1 container if it gets contam im fucked
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Re: 1:10 spawn speed Q [Re: bluegill]
#22105905 - 08/18/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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bluegill said: Going to hijack your thread and just ask - is it better to spawn to one bulk sub or a bunch of smaller subs?
Also how much spawn did you have OP?
If you don't have faith in your spawn being clean then go several smaller containers to up the odds of getting fruits. If you know your shit is on point then do 1 big tub
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I make a shitload of spawn every time I start a grow. I'm talking around 25 quart jars of it, sometimes more. Not a lot of pressure cooking if you have 2 pressure cookers of decent size, like I do. But, I split it up; usually 3-4 monotubs, and ~6 trays. Even if your spawn is top notch, you still have many more variables that could lead to contamination: the coir/bulk substrate itself, contaminates floating around in the air of your grow area, etc. So, clean spawn is only one part of the puzzle.
Since I'm not a fan of the whole "all your eggs in one basket" shit, I split it up into the 3-4 monos and 6 trays. It takes a monumental amount of retardation to fuck ALL of that up. Hell, even if the monotubs go to shit, you've still got all those trays to fall back on.
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Re: 1:10 spawn speed Q [Re: GerG]
#22106207 - 08/18/15 11:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I make a little spawn myself here n there
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MajickMuffin
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Nice gnomes, lol
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blindingleaf
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there ya go!! yes please!! lol
have u thought about bags ever out of curiosity?
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I haven't used any yet but azure has been telling me to make the switch. I've been pondering the idea for a while. What's the advantages of the bags?
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blindingleaf
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just one bag>one tub, so organization, and also u can fit more grains per PC run with bags. in a 921/presto 23 qt PC, u can do 10 qt jars (and they aren't full qts) or u can do 20-24 FULL qts of grain divided btw 4 bags. the issue is using them without a hood is tricky. Frank and muda both have SAB's that allow for it. before i had my hood, i would just put my SAB upside down on top of an empty taped up mono (like a dub tub) and do that, but its tricky. then i switched to LC's for bags, and that….wasn't my thing either  so i just ended up building a hood.
i also think shaking jars vs. massaging/shaking bags does more damage to the myc, so leap off in bulk takes longer.
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I'll have to give em a shot. My concern was with bags you have to toss them and jars you can reuse but if I can cut my pc use by 75% I'll make the cost of bags up by what I save on my electric bill.
I know I'll need an impulse sealer but what size bags should I get? And do you have to pc longer do to the amount of grain?
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blindingleaf
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use zip ties if u don't have a hood (or at least i would)
not sure on size dimensions. i use Unicorn 3T bags with the .2 micron patch. pirate swazey uses the unicorn bags, but he gets the .5 size filter (i think) because u can pre seal them before PCing. so its user preference kinda, depending on how u want to go about it.
u do have to PC longer because the mass is more, but IMO, its still more efficient use of time and space.
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I've never really understood why it has to be under 1 micron. Both for the FH, as well as the spawn bags. I've seen people bash the 3 micron bags, but according to my research, it should still be good.
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cArcace-x said: i was totally wrong from 13shrooms journal


Sorry for changing the topic lol
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good point. I'm not sure. i assume its just how the industry ended up. if they could use bigger filters with the same success rate, I'm sure they would. it'd be a lot cheaper, thats for sure, so I'm sure there is a reason they spend the extra money for the better filters.
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Cool grow room PPP
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Mad Season said: I've never really understood why it has to be under 1 micron. Both for the FH, as well as the spawn bags. I've seen people bash the 3 micron bags, but according to my research, it should still be good.
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cArcace-x said: i was totally wrong from 13shrooms journal


Sorry for changing the topic lol
That does look like it'd suggest you'd want at least a 2 micron filter, as bacteria seems to be listed as 3-5. I assume going lower than that is beneficial because it'll withstand more PC cycles before anything becomes warped enough to let particles in.
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Re: 1:10 spawn speed Q [Re: Inocuole]
#22108079 - 08/18/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pasty has about the best results of anyone one here I'm aware of @ 3oz/qt in a single flush. He seems to feel that thinner subs have better biological efficiency.
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