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littlechief
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Pachanoi Log Method
#22103651 - 08/17/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So, this is my first time growing cactus cuttings. The guy who sold them to me recommended that I cut them into 3 inch pieces and lay them on their side.
They look nice. Left them to dry on the ends for about 2 weeks. Did I bury them enough? Did I bury them too much? Using a simple Cactus Potting Mix from Bunnings. Was quite damp when I put them in. Now getting dry. In a warmish room with morning Winter light. Am I doing it right? Hints and tips? He said he pee'd on his to fertilize them. Mini Bic lighter for scale.
 



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kosmokratorshaman
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I would not have cut them that small. My logs are minimum 8 inches, but most are 10. You can of course root cuttings that small, but it takes much longer.
First off: Never pee on a plant you intend to grow. It is ignorant, and will hurt the plant. You buried them just fine. However, you should never put an unrooted cutting into damp soil. It will cause rot.
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littlechief
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Okay, I'll give them a go. The man who sold them and recommended this way had a beautiful, healthy cacti garden. So I kind of trust him that he wouldn't want my new plants to die. (Don't worry, I'm not going to pee on them.) I guess now that I've cut them, I've got no option but to see how they turn out! 
I have read that they can get mouldy in wet soil, but this soil seems to be drying quite quickly.
I'll keep this thread updated with pictures in a few weeks.
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They are buried a but deep i think. Inspect the callous every now and then, if it feels soft, it could be going towards rot. The log only needs like 1/3 of it submerged even less. Also, they may take a while to root, you have cut them insanely small. Good luck.
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littlechief
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Where do the roots come out of? Sorry! I'm supa new here
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littlechief
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Ps.. I have tried googling it a fair bit. I saw one where the roots looked like they were growing from the core, which is why I covered the core with soil a bit. If this is wrong plz help a sista out.
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kosmokratorshaman
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littlechief said: Where do the roots come out of? Sorry! I'm supa new here
the roots emerge from areoles (or skin as Lemn pointed out) that are on the bottom in the soil. You will initially see little white stumpy looking growths. they will get longer, and eventually put out fibrous roots. As time goes by, each areole in the soil will put out roots. Ive got a very well established bridgesii log. I also have a pedro log rooting atm.
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kosmokratorshaman
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The roots can grow from the calloused area. That is what you saw in the pics.
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What are the advantages to this method?
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kosmokratorshaman
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Re: Pachanoi Log Method [Re: Zombi3]
#22104295 - 08/17/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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more places to pup from. more prolific pupping, better root stability for larger plants end game
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littlechief
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So they pup from the cut ends?... or the areoles?
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Pups do grow directly from areoles. Roots will probably sprout from calloused area, but they can also sprout from skin.
They are placed in a good way Imo, but i think that 2 weeks callousing is still a weak callousing. Anyhow , since you already potted them, leave them as they are. Just don't water until you see roots, and be careful for the first waterings, since your soil seems really water retainig.
Pee does provide minerals,and has actually a real NPK contenet , approzimately a 10 1 2. but also contains several minerals that might be dangerous for plants, so my suggestion is to not pee on them.
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littlechief
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Thanks! Will post pics/updates to show yas how they go
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Cool,I've never tried this method before
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kosmokratorshaman
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Lemnaminor said: Pups do grow directly from areoles. Roots will probably sprout from calloused area, but they can also sprout from skin.
They are placed in a good way Imo, but i think that 2 weeks callousing is still a weak callousing. Anyhow , since you already potted them, leave them as they are. Just don't water until you see roots, and be careful for the first waterings, since your soil seems really water retainig.
Pee does provide minerals,and has actually a real NPK contenet , approzimately a 10 1 2. but also contains several minerals that might be dangerous for plants, so my suggestion is to not pee on them.
I agree. Pee can and has been used as fertilizer in the past. If you do not dilute it correctly though, you risk burning your plants.
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kactus.brand.g
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Yeah I was going to add that I've used urine many times when I was low on funds and couldn't afford fertilizer,and my cannabis loved it
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I pee in the compost.
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Re: Pachanoi Log Method [Re: elborito]
#22105476 - 08/18/15 06:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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elborito said: I pee in the compost.
Good idea
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Lucis
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Lemnaminor said: but i think that 2 weeks callousing is still a weak callousing.
I agree, minimum I let them callous is 1 month, but I usually cut and then place in a shady area until roots show, then plant.
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kosmokratorshaman
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Re: Pachanoi Log Method [Re: Lucis]
#22105494 - 08/18/15 06:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I callous for 3 weeks myself. Two weeks will still let moisture in. Urine can be used for many purposes. It is one of those very useful tools, if you know what you are doing.
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