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Ajahn Don
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My first mini mono
#22103486 - 08/17/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is the first bulk grow I've done. It is KSSS inoculate off of agar. I washed the plate and drew the sterile distilled water back into the syringe and innocullated 6 half-pint jars, which is all I could fit in the crappy PC. They went blind white in less that a fortnight. I mixed with coir/verm/gyp in a 20 qt mono, taped the holes. This is after three days.

Here's a closeup. What the hell is that alien looking shit sticking up like antennas?

Thanks.
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Re: My first mini mono [Re: Ajahn Don]
#22103623 - 08/17/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Looks like lack of FAE. I would have put a top layer on those grains.
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Re: My first mini mono [Re: taGyo]
#22103770 - 08/17/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm confused. FAE in a tub that has the holes taped up? It's still eating, isn't it? After three days? I was going to wait until it had turned completely white before I cased it, or does it need a layer of c/v/g and then a casing layer when we pull off the tape and crank up the fruiting?
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Re: My first mini mono [Re: Ajahn Don]
#22103795 - 08/17/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Didn't see you weren't fruiting it yet ,
How long has this been colonizing? It looks like rhizomorphic growth actually, I had that on a small tray I made and it performed pretty well but the way it's colonizing makes me thing it might have a problem in there.
A psuedo-casing layer is the top layer you put above your exposed grains. A casing layer is what you put at 100% colonization. I would case that because sometimes the mushrooms won't pin on the grains. More of a chance of an even pinset. There's also another problem with exposed grains that I forget.
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Re: My first mini mono [Re: Ajahn Don]
#22103806 - 08/17/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It looks off to me, probably bacterial. how long from you saw myc starting to grow in the jar until it/they were 100%? the grains should fuzz up again in 3 days.
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looks like a tub from that mush box place....
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Re: My first mini mono [Re: taGyo]
#22104002 - 08/17/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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taGyo said: Didn't see you weren't fruiting it yet ,
How long has this been colonizing? It looks like rhizomorphic growth actually, I had that on a small tray I made and it performed pretty well but the way it's colonizing makes me thing it might have a problem in there.
A psuedo-casing layer is the top layer you put above your exposed grains. A casing layer is what you put at 100% colonization. I would case that because sometimes the mushrooms won't pin on the grains. More of a chance of an even pinset. There's also another problem with exposed grains that I forget.
This is day 4. It's got a lot of aerial myc. (Figured that out, finally.) Should we sprinkle a light layer of c/v/g over it? Or wait it out?
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spacechildo said: It looks off to me, probably bacterial. how long from you saw myc starting to grow in the jar until it/they were 100%? the grains should fuzz up again in 3 days.
2 weeks from noc to spawning. It quickly recovered from shaking. Started seeing myc in three days.
Since this is the first time I've seen it live, I have no experience to draw on whether it looks right or not. It's going fast. About half colonized now.
Fingers crossed.
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Re: My first mini mono [Re: Ajahn Don]
#22105773 - 08/18/15 08:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Added a casing layer to the tub this morning. Lightly spritzed. We'll see what this does. I'll put it into fruiting condition when this layer gets colonized at 30%, okay?
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Re: My first mini mono [Re: Ajahn Don]
#22105799 - 08/18/15 08:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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out of sight, out of mind? 
I think something was off with your grain spawn, maybe the plate you used wasnt 100% clean?
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Re: My first mini mono [Re: Ajahn Don]
#22105805 - 08/18/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ajahn Don said:
Since this is the first time I've seen it live, I have no experience to draw on whether it looks right or not. It's going fast. About half colonized now.
I do not case a tub until it is 100% colonized. My timeline may be off, but I think your adding the casing a bit to early. Idk how deep you substrate is though.
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Ajahn Don said: Added a casing layer to the tub this morning. Lightly spritzed. We'll see what this does. I'll put it into fruiting condition when this layer gets colonized at 30%, okay?
When my trays/tubs are 100% colonized, I add a casing layer that is already at field capacity. Then usually let the myc pop through the casing layer 30%, like you said, before introducing to fruiting conditions.
You should NOT have to "spritz" after adding a casing layer to a substrate, it should already have the proper moisture before pasteurizing.
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shroomyaxn said: I do not case a tub until it is 100% colonized. My timeline may be off, but I think your adding the casing a bit to early. Idk how deep you substrate is though.
I think so, too. A bit early. I measured it just now at 3"
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You should NOT have to "spritz" after adding a casing layer to a substrate, it should already have the proper moisture before pasteurizing.
I know. And the tub itself has a large amount of condensation on the walls. We're just so used to spraying everything because it's a fucking desert. 110 degrees today, with a chance of being hotter. It's a little dry.

Thanks for the help.
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Ajahn Don
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spacechildo said: out of sight, out of mind? 
I think something was off with your grain spawn, maybe the plate you used wasnt 100% clean?
I find I have no problem in covering up my mistakes. With my short-term memory, I'll forget them pretty quick.
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Re: My first mini mono [Re: taGyo]
#22126139 - 08/22/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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taGyo said: Didn't see you weren't fruiting it yet ,
How long has this been colonizing? It looks like rhizomorphic growth actually, I had that on a small tray I made and it performed pretty well but the way it's colonizing makes me thing it might have a problem in there.
right here. its rhizo growth. thats good. it means its aggressively looking for more food. should colonize quick
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Here's yesterday's pic:
 
I think it's going to recover from my putting a casing layer on it too soon. I've opened the holes. I used Pasty's mini-mono tek, but I used a tomato paste can to cut the holes. (I've since acquired a set of Forstner bits, so I can get more accurate results. $20 at Lowes for the set 1/4 to 1 1/2. I think.) I put poly-felt over the holes, but will silicone these in after this one finishes. However, it still seems like it is reaching for more FAE, so I may pull these off and use poly, if I can get it tight enough in the gigantic holes.

I've got two shoebox 6qt micro-minis going, now, too. My plan is to take two or three of my favorite strains, maybe just one, and focus on it with agar, isolation, and micro-minis. Bought 5 for a buck eight-six at Wally, so the price is right, and it remains to be seen if they can be dialed in.
SGFC is pretty much an historical tek for me. The desert is low contam, but the humidity is a problem. It would practically take a constant mist, or something like grocery stores have.
That's all my news for this week. Best wishes.
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Re: My first mini mono [Re: Ajahn Don]
#22126352 - 08/22/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ajahn Don said: Here's yesterday's pic:
 
I think it's going to recover from my putting a casing layer on it too soon. I've opened the holes. I used Pasty's mini-mono tek, but I used a tomato paste can to cut the holes. (I've since acquired a set of Forstner bits, so I can get more accurate results. $20 at Lowes for the set 1/4 to 1 1/2. I think.) I put poly-felt over the holes, but will silicone these in after this one finishes. However, it still seems like it is reaching for more FAE, so I may pull these off and use poly, if I can get it tight enough in the gigantic holes.

I've got two shoebox 6qt micro-minis going, now, too. My plan is to take two or three of my favorite strains, maybe just one, and focus on it with agar, isolation, and micro-minis. Bought 5 for a buck eight-six at Wally, so the price is right, and it remains to be seen if they can be dialed in.
SGFC is pretty much an historical tek for me. The desert is low contam, but the humidity is a problem. It would practically take a constant mist, or something like grocery stores have.
That's all my news for this week. Best wishes.

damn those rebounded like a mofo!! u got rhizos EEEERRREHWUUUR! thats good though just make sure you stay on top of it. looks like its moving quick. those "little antennas" should fluff in a couple days making a more solid layer
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i dont have any experience with casings really. did it once with straight verm. did really well. but am i wrong or is that ready to put in fruiting? looks about where id want for a casing based on what iv read..
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It's fruiting. Thanks for the encouragement.
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Re: My first mini mono [Re: Ajahn Don]
#22126703 - 08/22/15 12:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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awesome. make sure to show us ur pretties! 
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Today's pic.
The holes have nice dry rings. The sub has begun to dry; I misted slightly. We're not going to put any (more) casing over it. It's on its own, now.
We're really going to watch how much it dries out, and how quickly. Should the top become pretty dry to stimulate fruiting? Humidity is a problem out here in the desert cave.
Best wishes all for a pleasant valley Sunday. (Monkees song. Somebody has to pass along the culture of the shroom.)
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