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Re: Eat more meat if you want to save the world [Re: Beanhead]
    #22203554 - 09/07/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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RanOutOfWeed said:
:facepalm3:


I've grown quite bored of arguing with idiots.

Good luck with your ignorance




Shut up spreader of false egg information



What IS true is that the ways that Egg's are obtained are ridiculously cruel, and unsustainable. Convetionally raised eggs are really a nightmare. I disagree wit the idea that free range eggs are unhealthy and unsustainable though


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Re: Eat more meat if you want to save the world [Re: Beanhead]
    #22203561 - 09/07/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

you can feed the entire world with eggs, plus think about all the eggs that go bad or get cracked at the store or on the way home, think of all the chickens we COULD have but city laws outlaw them and make you a hardened criminal for having them, and they have no good legit reason for it.  You can easily fit 3 chickens in the smallest yard, and they will STILL have more space than a factory chicken prison


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Re: Eat more meat if you want to save the world [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22203570 - 09/07/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Dude has some opposition, too.

Not that it isn't fun to talk about, I just had found this a while ago.

http://www.thewildlifenews.com/2013/11/12/allan-savory-myth-and-reality/


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Re: Eat more meat if you want to save the world [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22203585 - 09/07/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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you can feed the entire world with eggs, plus think about all the eggs that go bad or get cracked at the store or on the way home, think of all the chickens we COULD have but city laws outlaw them and make you a hardened criminal for having them, and they have no good legit reason for it.  You can easily fit 3 chickens in the smallest yard, and they will STILL have more space than a factory chicken prison



Chickens are also very versatile. They eat bugs and pests and rats i think

Grass fed meat is very sustainable and healthy. Just expensive


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Re: Eat more meat if you want to save the world [Re: Beanhead]
    #22203724 - 09/07/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

False? Scientific facts, bro.


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Re: Eat more meat if you want to save the world [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
    #22203947 - 09/07/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Eat more meat if you want to save the world [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22205663 - 09/08/15 03:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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you can feed the entire world with eggs, plus think about all the eggs that go bad or get cracked at the store or on the way home, think of all the chickens we COULD have but city laws outlaw them and make you a hardened criminal for having them, and they have no good legit reason for it.  You can easily fit 3 chickens in the smallest yard, and they will STILL have more space than a factory chicken prison




You get tax reductions here if you have chickens.

Chickens rule :chicken:

I got 4 :gangsta2:


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Re: Eat more meat if you want to save the world [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #22205683 - 09/08/15 04:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Giftofdeprivation said:
Dude has some opposition, too.

Not that it isn't fun to talk about, I just had found this a while ago.

http://www.thewildlifenews.com/2013/11/12/allan-savory-myth-and-reality/



Oh, it's the Allan Savory thing again. The videos don't work here in this browser, but I understand his TED talk about holistic grazing is one of them? It's a nice thought, but indeed, there are many issues with it. From a very positive perspective, this approach could get allow some (minor) food production to take place in areas that are currently unfit for it in the long term.

However, this leaves a lot of loose ends:
* How sustainable is holistic grazing really? There is currently a lack of verifiable long-term results and the positive cases can be attributed to local climate changes as well as to the approach of holistic grazing.
* Even if holistic grazing works, it will only be a small contribution to the overall food supply. The difference on a global scale will be marginal, but it may be a (partial) solution in certain areas.
* Holistic grazing doesn't change anything about the protein efficiency of the food chain, which still implies that it is more efficient for humans to obtain most of their protein from plant sources and thereby skip the step of meat production.

All considered, this changes very little to the arguments for and against vegetarianism. The thread title is inappropriate.


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Re: Eat more meat if you want to save the world [Re: koraks] * 1
    #22206416 - 09/08/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

no, the thread title would be inappropriate if it was something like "suck my balls if your name is koraks and you want to save the world"

see?


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Re: Eat more meat if you want to save the world [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
    #22206476 - 09/08/15 10:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:pleasetellmemore:


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Re: Eat more meat if you want to save the world [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22207184 - 09/08/15 01:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It's like you're a child and koraks just stole your ball.


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Re: Eat more meat if you want to save the world [Re: abltsandwich] * 1
    #22207208 - 09/08/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

And what a great ball it is! I'm going to play with it all day long and you're not to touch it! It's my replacement for the marbles that were taken away from me.


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Re: Eat more meat if you want to save the world [Re: koraks]
    #22209665 - 09/08/15 09:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

MY BALL! :kingcrankey: I RULE BALL LAND! ALL BALLS BELONG TO ME!

but seriously, this thread isn't really about eating meat, its about rejuvinating vast areas of land that are not suitable for growing food crops.
fuck it, cull the herds as necessary and let em' rot in the fields if you don't wanna eat 'em


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Re: Eat more meat if you want to save the world [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22209824 - 09/08/15 10:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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ballsalsa said:
MY BALL! :kingcrankey: I RULE BALL LAND! ALL BALLS BELONG TO ME!

but seriously, this thread isn't really about eating meat, its about rejuvinating vast areas of land that are not suitable for growing food crops.
fuck it, cull the herds as necessary and let em' rot in the fields if you don't wanna eat 'em



i watched the whole vid in the first post. Good shit


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Re: Eat more meat if you want to save the world [Re: topdog82]
    #22210185 - 09/08/15 11:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Currently eating chicken. I feel like I skipped the part of the conversation that diverted the thread. Oh whell


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Re: Eat more meat if you want to save the world [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22210469 - 09/09/15 12:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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ballsalsa said:
MY BALL! :kingcrankey: I RULE BALL LAND! ALL BALLS BELONG TO ME!

but seriously, this thread isn't really about eating meat, its about rejuvinating vast areas of land that are not suitable for growing food crops.
fuck it, cull the herds as necessary and let em' rot in the fields if you don't wanna eat 'em



I can jive with that. If holistic grazing really works in the long term, then it's a perfectly good option for the areas in which it works. And it stands to reason that we'd eat the meat that is produced that way.


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Re: Eat more meat if you want to save the world [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22210483 - 09/09/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I try to do my part, and pick up the slack of all the vegetarians as well. They can live on the food my food eats if they want to. I'm gonna eat real food though.


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Re: Eat more meat if you want to save the world [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22210501 - 09/09/15 01:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Arguably, if a vegetarian eats cheese and other milk products, someone has to eat the meat that you could argue to be a byproduct of dairy. For a cow to produce milk, there must be calves and half of them will be bulls. And even a dairy cow comes to a point where it doesn't produce any more milk. But what's wrong with meat production in many western countries is that particularly this meat, ie that of retired dairy cows, is exported to e.g. Africa because the meat industry believes there's no domestic market for it. I personally think that's a travesty (especially since the meat of old dairy cows is allegedly very tasty).


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Re: Eat more meat if you want to save the world [Re: koraks]
    #22210509 - 09/09/15 01:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldn't mind eating some old cow. As long as meat doesn't taste off or have some texture issue (like this one chicken I got once that was literally like eating rubber) I really don't care, I'll eat it. I'll mainly only eat muscle though. I'm not a fan of organ meat.


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Re: Eat more meat if you want to save the world [Re: koraks]
    #22210536 - 09/09/15 01:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm no vegetarian and I think they're all scared off from this thread by the 50 minute video, but I think it's more about forcing animals into a life of singular production (which is a great analogy of our own plight). It's kinda amoral to confine a creature... blah blah blah...

Again, one of the best points of the video is the idea of holistic living. By tapping one resource after another, we notice how it detriments EVERYTHING. We fail to find any semblance of balance when it comes to how we interact with nature (because we're parasites).

We should probably start a genocide thread and recruit for our own demise. Who's with me?!


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