|
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
rajabrokes
Stranger

Registered: 02/12/14
Posts: 1,131
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
|
Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: paperbackwriter]
#22131355 - 08/23/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
paperbackwriter said: One of the few verified instance of LSD overdose (note no one died) was some people doing lines of it. They probably thought it was coke. The side effects don't sound pleasant.
"Eight patients were seen within 15 min of intranasal self-administration of large amounts of pure D-lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD) tartrate powder. Emesis and collapse occurred along with sign of sympathetic overactivity, hyperthermia, coma, and respiratory arrest. Mild generalized bleeding occurred in several patients and evidence of platelet dysfunction was present in all. Serum and gastric concentrations of LSD tartrate ranged from 2.1 to 26 ng/ml and 1000 to 7000 ug/100 ml, respectively. With supportive care, all patients recovered."
https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_death.shtml
I think this is the most useful bit of info this thread about thumbprints has to offer. That's the stuff I was kinda goofing around about using the word "bullshit" and whatnot. Glad to see paperbackwriter posted it. Brings the whole thumbprint idea back to reality a little bit.
-------------------- Really though we are not living in a scientific or technological age. Today human life is dominated by a hateful and greedy form of stasis which stands in the way of a coming technological age. One where there is hope for the future for example, instead of fear.
|
JacobStorm
psychedelic cartel



Registered: 07/21/15
Posts: 1,499
|
Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: rajabrokes]
#22131372 - 08/23/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
rajabrokes said:
Quote:
paperbackwriter said: One of the few verified instance of LSD overdose (note no one died) was some people doing lines of it. They probably thought it was coke. The side effects don't sound pleasant.
"Eight patients were seen within 15 min of intranasal self-administration of large amounts of pure D-lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD) tartrate powder. Emesis and collapse occurred along with sign of sympathetic overactivity, hyperthermia, coma, and respiratory arrest. Mild generalized bleeding occurred in several patients and evidence of platelet dysfunction was present in all. Serum and gastric concentrations of LSD tartrate ranged from 2.1 to 26 ng/ml and 1000 to 7000 ug/100 ml, respectively. With supportive care, all patients recovered."
https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_death.shtml
I think this is the most useful bit of info this thread about thumbprints has to offer. That's the stuff I was kinda goofing around about using the word "bullshit" and whatnot. Glad to see paperbackwriter posted it. Brings the whole thumbprint idea back to reality a little bit.
Yeah but come on, Whos seriously snorts LSD? Its not surprising that the medical emergency happened. Abusing L like its coke sounds down right risky..
-------------------- Rogger Rabbits Mushroom growing videos Ethnobotanical garden forum Inocuole tea TEK azur said: If you like 6th grade results, then 6th grade projects are great.
|
nicechrisman
Interdimensional space wizard



Registered: 11/07/03
Posts: 33,241
Last seen: 4 years, 6 months
|
Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: JacobStorm]
#22131380 - 08/23/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
I've snorted crushed up microdots of LSD
-------------------- "Cosmic Love is absolutelely ruthless and highly indifferent: it teaches its lessons whether you like/dislike them or not." John C. Lily
|
JacobStorm
psychedelic cartel



Registered: 07/21/15
Posts: 1,499
|
Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: nicechrisman]
#22131388 - 08/23/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
nicechrisman said: I've snorted crushed up microdots of LSD
A thumb print worth?
-------------------- Rogger Rabbits Mushroom growing videos Ethnobotanical garden forum Inocuole tea TEK azur said: If you like 6th grade results, then 6th grade projects are great.
|
nicechrisman
Interdimensional space wizard



Registered: 11/07/03
Posts: 33,241
Last seen: 4 years, 6 months
|
Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: JacobStorm]
#22131406 - 08/23/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Oh heavens no
-------------------- "Cosmic Love is absolutelely ruthless and highly indifferent: it teaches its lessons whether you like/dislike them or not." John C. Lily
|
JacobStorm
psychedelic cartel



Registered: 07/21/15
Posts: 1,499
|
Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: nicechrisman]
#22131413 - 08/23/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Don't wanna derail this thread nor jack it. You should send me a pm and let me know how that was. Unless your terribly busy.
-------------------- Rogger Rabbits Mushroom growing videos Ethnobotanical garden forum Inocuole tea TEK azur said: If you like 6th grade results, then 6th grade projects are great.
|
nicechrisman
Interdimensional space wizard



Registered: 11/07/03
Posts: 33,241
Last seen: 4 years, 6 months
|
Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: JacobStorm]
#22131420 - 08/23/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
There's not too much to tell. It was a long time ago during a period of time where I was taking 500-1000 ug pretty much every weekend. Definitely tripped balls.
-------------------- "Cosmic Love is absolutelely ruthless and highly indifferent: it teaches its lessons whether you like/dislike them or not." John C. Lily
|
paperbackwriter
Edward Lear


Registered: 03/31/14
Posts: 1,888
|
Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: rajabrokes]
#22131421 - 08/23/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
I've had trips like that before. My 700ug trip was the culmination of a lot of things for me. I laughed and cried in the same breadth. Learned a lot about myself. It was good.
And of course the visuals where mind blowing which is always a plus.
-------------------- Why should we strive with cynic frown To knock their fairy castles down? ~ Eliza Cook It's rather embarrassing to have given one's entire life to pondering the human predicament and to find that in the end one has little more to say than, 'Try to be a little kinder.' ~Aldous Huxley
|
thewanderer25
Special Karma



Registered: 08/11/13
Posts: 1,642
Loc: Hyperspace
Last seen: 8 years, 2 months
|
Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: paperbackwriter]
#22131569 - 08/23/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
I had a vile of some crystal L it was a small amount in the vile but still my guy said mix it with water then put it on a sheet so it was about a sheet of acid. Anyways I put a q tip in the vile and got some residue on it and took that straight to the brain. It was absurd my guy said I most likely took anywhere from 20 to 35 hits. I remember walking home and seeing the street turn into a ocean and the waves were multiple complicated colors. I got home somehow the rest of the night was like something a hippie dreams about like DMT but with a way more mellow vibe. I liked it and still had the rest in the vile but I didn't do a dose like that again because I felt slow in the head for a few days.
|
lysergiccognition
Stranger

Registered: 12/29/12
Posts: 53
Last seen: 4 years, 8 months
|
Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: nicechrisman]
#22131593 - 08/23/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
While a confirmed 700-1000ug dose with zero tolerance is enough to saturate me from hours 2 to 3 1/2. In my experience a dose well into the mg range makes that peak extend into hours 4-5 and it's fully on by the first hour. Which does make for a way crazier trip because your there for longer and it hits you so quick that there's more panic which can make your mind go into all sorts of places. So technically while there is most definitely a saturation point at 500-1500ug, a higher dose keeps you saturated for longer which makes a trip way crazier.
5mg in crystal form or any form for that matter (50 strong wow) will wreck your mind by the first 20-30 minutes and keep you in the void for several hours. But the level of physical intensity does make for a way more 'shamanic' experience. Most people that have truly 'printed' crystal claim that their dose was in the 5-10 mg range. I have never met or even heard of anybody IRL that has knowingly taken more than 10mg. I don't know maybe some crazy people do it, I just don't see the point cause I personally melt into the singularity Chinacat speaks of by 1-2mg without adverse effects.
|
JacobStorm
psychedelic cartel



Registered: 07/21/15
Posts: 1,499
|
Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: lysergiccognition]
#22131648 - 08/23/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
lysergiccognition said: While a confirmed 700-1000ug dose with zero tolerance is enough to saturate me from hours 2 to 3 1/2. In my experience a dose well into the mg range makes that peak extend into hours 4-5 and it's fully on by the first hour. Which does make for a way crazier trip because your there for longer and it hits you so quick that there's more panic which can make your mind go into all sorts of places. So technically while there is most definitely a saturation point at 500-1500ug, a higher dose keeps you saturated for longer which makes a trip way crazier.
5mg in crystal form or any form for that matter (50 strong wow) will wreck your mind by the first 20-30 minutes and keep you in the void for several hours. But the level of physical intensity does make for a way more 'shamanic' experience. Most people that have truly 'printed' crystal claim that their dose was in the 5-10 mg range. I have never met or even heard of anybody IRL that has knowingly taken more than 10mg. I don't know maybe some crazy people do it, I just don't see the point cause I personally melt into the singularity Chinacat speaks of by 1-2mg without adverse effects.
Forgive me I'm not understanding. Your 1MG L trip lasts how long?
-------------------- Rogger Rabbits Mushroom growing videos Ethnobotanical garden forum Inocuole tea TEK azur said: If you like 6th grade results, then 6th grade projects are great.
|
moonzo
Getting Better



Registered: 06/04/14
Posts: 3,155
Loc: Kaneta
|
Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: rajabrokes]
#22131737 - 08/23/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
rajabrokes said: Man, isn't it cool how 600 ugs literally has you FACED and facing some very big ideas. Anything above that dose we always thought was nuts but we were willing to do it. Approaching 1000 mics there's nothing like having your breathing and bloodpressure in sync with your thoughts. How during the peaks of the peak, oxygen deprivation due to accidently not breathing much has a function in the deepest depths of an lsd experience. As synchronicity and impossible things happening in your mind coincide with the next breath that you remember to take in full, causing a rush of consciousness to flow back into your minds eye informing you of some of the content inside the borderline unconscious depths you were navigating while being somewhat or a lot deprived of oxygen. And this repeats it's self like a perfect machine. None of which is harmful(but you can pass the fuck out if it gets out of control), but when your breathing(or lack of) synchs up you have entered a sort of divine selfless machine that has impossible thought processes buried within; plunging in and out of it as the system rounds full circle over and over. Some of the best lsd trips I ever had involved this. This in-part physically induced unintentional state of breath-stroking through the deepest depths that lsd has to offer. Love how lsd can literally do this kind of thing at high doses, and it works like an enlightenment machine or spaceship; the mind and body as one navigating the unfathomable, almost forgetting how completely uncomfortable and scary it could all be for you. Where your just lucky you're too interested and involved in capturing some of the information, or else you'd be scared shitless. I get a kick out of how Richard Prior eludes to this process in one of his stand up acts when he talks about taking acid and forgetting how to breath. That's the stuff I'm talking about or what this perfect metabolic space ship I'm struggling to explain is made of. Very few people have ever explained it to any extent to my knowledge. I used to enter this sort of spaceship to the impossibly numerous constellations of thoughts/ideas working together and revealing the unfathomable. This used to happen to me in the dark, in a recliner, and I'd not come out of it for three hours. The impossible things the mind can do that become accessible and workable. Self conscious neurology. Machines connected to a sea of other machines that are all working literally at the same time. Showing you amazing things the whole time, but a terrain that's also kind of like an entity comprised of numerous jesters that fuck with you in some ways but also care about you and wouldn't be so harsh at times without good reason. Man I love the shroomery. I miss this place. Should come back more often because I love thinking about crazy experiences I've had that I will never venture forth into again at such doses.
Sounds like a portion of the trip im sure, but yes pretty accurate to my 1.5mg trip.
-------------------- "I don't make any sense, do not ever listen to me under any circumstance." <-- This is how I am viewed by a regular person in society "Were the aliens nice?" <-- How I hope to be treated on this forum Track record: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=20394867&page=2&vc=1#20394867 Mescapsilosyergictryptamine
|
Rebelutionsssss
Mdmazing



Registered: 07/23/14
Posts: 13,137
Loc: San Francisco
Last seen: 2 years, 2 months
|
Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: JacobStorm]
#22131757 - 08/23/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
JacobStorm said:
Quote:
lysergiccognition said: While a confirmed 700-1000ug dose with zero tolerance is enough to saturate me from hours 2 to 3 1/2. In my experience a dose well into the mg range makes that peak extend into hours 4-5 and it's fully on by the first hour. Which does make for a way crazier trip because your there for longer and it hits you so quick that there's more panic which can make your mind go into all sorts of places. So technically while there is most definitely a saturation point at 500-1500ug, a higher dose keeps you saturated for longer which makes a trip way crazier.
5mg in crystal form or any form for that matter (50 strong wow) will wreck your mind by the first 20-30 minutes and keep you in the void for several hours. But the level of physical intensity does make for a way more 'shamanic' experience. Most people that have truly 'printed' crystal claim that their dose was in the 5-10 mg range. I have never met or even heard of anybody IRL that has knowingly taken more than 10mg. I don't know maybe some crazy people do it, I just don't see the point cause I personally melt into the singularity Chinacat speaks of by 1-2mg without adverse effects.
Forgive me I'm not understanding. Your 1MG L trip lasts how long?
I was just thinking that you mean your 100mic trip that your dealer told you was 1000mics
-------------------- : To define is to confine.
|
moonzo
Getting Better



Registered: 06/04/14
Posts: 3,155
Loc: Kaneta
|
Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: lysergiccognition]
#22131782 - 08/23/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
lysergiccognition said: I have never met or even heard of anybody IRL that has knowingly taken more than 10mg.
I remember reading somewhere that the greatful dead guitarist dosed 250,000mics. Or a quarter gram of lsd at once.
-------------------- "I don't make any sense, do not ever listen to me under any circumstance." <-- This is how I am viewed by a regular person in society "Were the aliens nice?" <-- How I hope to be treated on this forum Track record: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=20394867&page=2&vc=1#20394867 Mescapsilosyergictryptamine
|
lysergiccognition
Stranger

Registered: 12/29/12
Posts: 53
Last seen: 4 years, 8 months
|
Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: JacobStorm]
#22131787 - 08/23/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
1mg last about as long as a normal dose 6-12 hours depending on what you consider tripping. What I was saying is that the very intense part (saturation) that is comparable to much higher doses of it is from hour 2 until about 4 hours into it. Whereas higher doses have you there for much longer.
|
JacobStorm
psychedelic cartel



Registered: 07/21/15
Posts: 1,499
|
Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: lysergiccognition]
#22131836 - 08/23/15 04:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
lysergiccognition said: 1mg last about as long as a normal dose 6-12 hours depending on what you consider tripping. What I was saying is that the very intense part (saturation) that is comparable to much higher doses of it is from hour 2 until about 4 hours into it. Whereas higher doses have you there for much longer.
I kinda disagree. The most I've taken at once was a 10 strip and I was tripping balls all day basically . Roughly 12-24 hours. And the peak came on In an hour if not less. Am I missing something?
-------------------- Rogger Rabbits Mushroom growing videos Ethnobotanical garden forum Inocuole tea TEK azur said: If you like 6th grade results, then 6th grade projects are great.
|
lysergiccognition
Stranger

Registered: 12/29/12
Posts: 53
Last seen: 4 years, 8 months
|
Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: JacobStorm]
#22131889 - 08/23/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
It was Robert hunter, songwriter for the dead, he didn't actually play with them. Also mickey hart's kids (12 and 13 I think) supposedly snorted crystal backstage during a show. I've just never met anyone in person that's done more than a few mgs.Quote:
JacobStorm said:
Quote:
lysergiccognition said: 1mg last about as long as a normal dose 6-12 hours depending on what you consider tripping. What I was saying is that the very intense part (saturation) that is comparable to much higher doses of it is from hour 2 until about 4 hours into it. Whereas higher doses have you there for much longer.
I kinda disagree. The most I've taken at once was a 10 strip and I was tripping balls all day basically . Roughly 12-24 hours. And the peak came on In an hour if not less. Am I missing something?
Yeah it could arguably last that long, but after 6-8 hours it's mostly after effects, at least in comparison to the peak. And yeah the peak hits you fast, definitely within the hour but there is a pocket within the peak (again hours 2-4) that is comparable to a much higher dose.
|
Rebelutionsssss
Mdmazing



Registered: 07/23/14
Posts: 13,137
Loc: San Francisco
Last seen: 2 years, 2 months
|
Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: lysergiccognition] 1
#22131923 - 08/23/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Sounds about right except my peak is a solid 6-8 hours on those high doses
-------------------- : To define is to confine.
Edited by Rebelutionsssss (08/23/15 05:15 PM)
|
paperbackwriter
Edward Lear


Registered: 03/31/14
Posts: 1,888
|
Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#22131952 - 08/23/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
How long I trip seems to correlate heavily with how much weed I smoke when I'm coming down.
-------------------- Why should we strive with cynic frown To knock their fairy castles down? ~ Eliza Cook It's rather embarrassing to have given one's entire life to pondering the human predicament and to find that in the end one has little more to say than, 'Try to be a little kinder.' ~Aldous Huxley
|
moonzo
Getting Better



Registered: 06/04/14
Posts: 3,155
Loc: Kaneta
|
Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: paperbackwriter]
#22132382 - 08/23/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
paperbackwriter said: How long I trip seems to correlate heavily with how much weed I smoke when I'm coming down. 
I completely agree
-------------------- "I don't make any sense, do not ever listen to me under any circumstance." <-- This is how I am viewed by a regular person in society "Were the aliens nice?" <-- How I hope to be treated on this forum Track record: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=20394867&page=2&vc=1#20394867 Mescapsilosyergictryptamine
|
|