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Achillita
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Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: Eminence]
#22127869 - 08/22/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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chinacat has also said he had major tolerance when taking the thumbprints.
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The shroomy 1
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Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#22128284 - 08/22/15 07:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Rebelutionsssss said:
we don't discuss such things. Everyone knows LSD falls from the heavens
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thewanderer25
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Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: The shroomy 1]
#22128914 - 08/22/15 10:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Actually ive been studying real chemistry and think I may have figured out a scaled down version that wouldn't be to hard to make just dangerous. You still need nitrogen tanks and real lab grade glass but I may have figured out how to do it from small amounts of ergot to produce like .5 of L and .3 of iso L. Still though small amounts of solvent and hydrazine sulfate synthesis and dimethylamine salts would give me what I need after the glass and vacuums it would cost like 3 or 4 grand to set up.
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Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: Achillita]
#22129315 - 08/23/15 12:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Achillita said: chinacat has also said he had major tolerance when taking the thumbprints.
To me it doesn't count when you have tolerance. Any amount you did with tolerance is bullshit. I only respect people who got to the thumbprint stage legitimately. That means increasing the dose until you got there. Not taking two or three hits a few times and then going to fingerprint. Go take 5 or 10 or 20 hits and then come back and say you want to try it. I do believe in saturation point but find it hard to believe the kids who ride chinacats dick on here could handle a 10 hit dose. How stupid would you guys feel if it really is dangerous? You going to tell people you thought it was safe to take 300 hits of LSD because an anonymous poster on a message board made up a bunch of bullshit about it? There is not enough data to proclaim fingerprints safe.
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Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: thewanderer25] 1
#22129350 - 08/23/15 01:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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thewanderer25 said: Actually ive been studying real chemistry and think I may have figured out a scaled down version that wouldn't be to hard to make just dangerous. You still need nitrogen tanks and real lab grade glass but I may have figured out how to do it from small amounts of ergot to produce like .5 of L and .3 of iso L. Still though small amounts of solvent and hydrazine sulfate synthesis and dimethylamine salts would give me what I need after the glass and vacuums it would cost like 3 or 4 grand to set up.
This kid 
Reads up a little on "real chemistry" and already thinks he has a more simple method for synthesis of LSD than dozens of true chemists that came before him, and not even old enough to drink!
You do realize that most chems needed for synthesis are on red flag lists right? Not to mention ergotamine tartrate, which is damn hard to procure.
HBWR seeds are not practical for any true synthesis, neither are MG seeds.
But hey, good luck.
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Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: natedawgnow]
#22129603 - 08/23/15 04:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said:
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thewanderer25 said: Actually ive been studying real chemistry and think I may have figured out a scaled down version that wouldn't be to hard to make just dangerous. You still need nitrogen tanks and real lab grade glass but I may have figured out how to do it from small amounts of ergot to produce like .5 of L and .3 of iso L. Still though small amounts of solvent and hydrazine sulfate synthesis and dimethylamine salts would give me what I need after the glass and vacuums it would cost like 3 or 4 grand to set up.
This kid 
Reads up a little on "real chemistry" and already thinks he has a more simple method for synthesis of LSD than dozens of true chemists that came before him, and not even old enough to drink!
You do realize that most chems needed for synthesis are on red flag lists right? Not to mention ergotamine tartrate, which is damn hard to procure.
HBWR seeds are not practical for any true synthesis, neither are MG seeds.
But hey, good luck.
You shush your mouth! Owsley studied for three weeks and made it with the precursors; although he had the help of a chemist.
IF you studied quite hard and figured out how to make or acquire the precursors and somehow knew the lab skill it could be done. You could start small and work your way up over a year to a LSD synth if you were putting effort into it.
You think things are unreachable when they're right there in your grasp with some hard work. Look at the possibilitys because when you can't see them you cannot achieve them.
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Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: natedawgnow]
#22129605 - 08/23/15 04:39 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It depends on the time honestly. As of now if I was offered it I don't think I could. First acid last way to long for me now I can't stand it's duration when I'm ready for bed I'm ready for bed not still trying to trip but really the main reason is not to sound like a bitch but I don't think I could handle it. I don't know the ug of acid I get it's always completely real but it's some strong shit. One tab of that will have pretty gone. Like so gone when I have thought saying what's going on right now I'm so fucking high and just laugh my ass off. Like in my head I'm having thoughts about how high I am and shit like that. Now imagine 100s of tabs at once. I get those feelings off ONE.. If I was off 100s of tabs I don't think I could handle it honestly haha
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Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: Neji]
#22130102 - 08/23/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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there wont be anything for you to not handle,obviously no one can handle it, but it wont be a difficult trip because its takees you away so fast.
5 years ago i started eating lsd, since then ive eaten it on hundreds of different occasions, about 2.5 years ago i started laying my own paper, never with gloves, about a gram per week. sometimes more than ghat at once. in this time period up until last halloween(my last trip) i would be eatin anywhere from 5-30 doses. one time possibly more than 30 doses landed in my mouth when the nipple came off the bottle. a bottle of liquid would be eaten completely by me and 1 or 2 others then id chew the bottle.
one day while we were laying the stuff as we were cleaning up, we usually leave the leftover in the pan for next time but i smudged a little off with my pinky fingerand a small smudge was left on my finger about a cm long by a quarter cm wide one side really dark fading to nothing. i looked at it a minute and thought maybe ill try and scrape/wipe it off on the pan, but i pointed my finger up showing my buddy and said some got on my finger and dont want to waste it and he said go for it, i put it in my mouth and scraped it off mt finger with my teeth, about a 70-90 seconds later everything started to stretch. the everything was constantly shifting to the left,right,up and down all at the same time with the actual object still staying in the middle. then they all curve in the same direction and like a river everything flowed out of my vision leaving me in a dark place with light lines. thats as far as im ognna be able to tell you.
-------------------- its that bitter-sweet-sour, electric-smooth-twang. everything you ever have, are. or will feel along with every emotion, joy, hate, love, fear or aspiration burning down your nerves and into the fabric of your place in this existence at ten thousand degrees above and below zero will you find yourself wondering if you've been dead or alive this whole time. being born over and over only to die over and over hoping the wheel stops in the same place it started when you spun it, and when it finally does and you can step back and take a nice deep breath you realize how beautiful life is, remember, wake up to the most beautiful day of your life every single day, its just the way.
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paperbackwriter
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Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: whitelights]
#22130106 - 08/23/15 09:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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700ug was a blast. Saturation is about twice that. I'd probably do it.
-------------------- Why should we strive with cynic frown To knock their fairy castles down? ~ Eliza Cook It's rather embarrassing to have given one's entire life to pondering the human predicament and to find that in the end one has little more to say than, 'Try to be a little kinder.' ~Aldous Huxley
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Yukon Cornelius
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Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: dixienormous] 1
#22130139 - 08/23/15 09:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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dixienormous said:
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natedawgnow said:
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thewanderer25 said: Actually ive been studying real chemistry and think I may have figured out a scaled down version that wouldn't be to hard to make just dangerous. You still need nitrogen tanks and real lab grade glass but I may have figured out how to do it from small amounts of ergot to produce like .5 of L and .3 of iso L. Still though small amounts of solvent and hydrazine sulfate synthesis and dimethylamine salts would give me what I need after the glass and vacuums it would cost like 3 or 4 grand to set up.
This kid 
Reads up a little on "real chemistry" and already thinks he has a more simple method for synthesis of LSD than dozens of true chemists that came before him, and not even old enough to drink!
You do realize that most chems needed for synthesis are on red flag lists right? Not to mention ergotamine tartrate, which is damn hard to procure.
HBWR seeds are not practical for any true synthesis, neither are MG seeds.
But hey, good luck.
You shush your mouth! Owsley studied for three weeks and made it with the precursors; although he had the help of a chemist.
IF you studied quite hard and figured out how to make or acquire the precursors and somehow knew the lab skill it could be done. You could start small and work your way up over a year to a LSD synth if you were putting effort into it.
You think things are unreachable when they're right there in your grasp with some hard work. Look at the possibilitys because when you can't see them you cannot achieve them.
Owsley was already a genius, thewanderer25 is not.
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Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
#22130208 - 08/23/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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i bet chinacat didnt lie at all! seriously...he probably just told a story about something that happened 40 year before he told it, so his memory is fuzzy...he honestly probably couldnt put it into words. and just liked the drop in the ocean analogy.
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Bigfeely123
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Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: Everything]
#22130275 - 08/23/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Chinacat is real. I spoke with him yesterday.
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dixienormous


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Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: Bigfeely123]
#22130310 - 08/23/15 10:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bigfeely123 said: Chinacat is real. I spoke with him yesterday.
Well, I didn't see him at the Oregon Country Fair so pftt.. like, whatever ya'know.
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Bigfeely123
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Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: dixienormous]
#22130314 - 08/23/15 10:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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He doesn't go anymore.
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thewanderer25
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Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
#22130528 - 08/23/15 11:39 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yukon Cornelius said:
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dixienormous said:
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natedawgnow said:
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thewanderer25 said: Actually ive been studying real chemistry and think I may have figured out a scaled down version that wouldn't be to hard to make just dangerous. You still need nitrogen tanks and real lab grade glass but I may have figured out how to do it from small amounts of ergot to produce like .5 of L and .3 of iso L. Still though small amounts of solvent and hydrazine sulfate synthesis and dimethylamine salts would give me what I need after the glass and vacuums it would cost like 3 or 4 grand to set up.
This kid 
Reads up a little on "real chemistry" and already thinks he has a more simple method for synthesis of LSD than dozens of true chemists that came before him, and not even old enough to drink!
You do realize that most chems needed for synthesis are on red flag lists right? Not to mention ergotamine tartrate, which is damn hard to procure.
HBWR seeds are not practical for any true synthesis, neither are MG seeds.
But hey, good luck.
You shush your mouth! Owsley studied for three weeks and made it with the precursors; although he had the help of a chemist.
IF you studied quite hard and figured out how to make or acquire the precursors and somehow knew the lab skill it could be done. You could start small and work your way up over a year to a LSD synth if you were putting effort into it.
You think things are unreachable when they're right there in your grasp with some hard work. Look at the possibilitys because when you can't see them you cannot achieve them.
Owsley was already a genius, thewanderer25 is not.
Well im going to listen to you guys I have dream and there is nothing other than death that will stop me. Ive made pure DMT and methenphitame so pure ergot alkaloids shouldn't be to hard the only thing that scares me is the hydrazine because it must be in a nitrogen atmosphere and anhydrous or it could kill me. But ive already figured out I can make hydrazine sulfate for a stable storage and then switch it to anhydrous hydrazine when I need to react the ergot alkaloids. The hard part is lab setup and acquiring large amounts of solvents in an untraceable fashion. But still its really not to hard to make the things that are restricted its more about safety their dangerous as hell and you need to do everything exactly right. But if I disteled bleach and made some HCL (both of wich are not hard) I could make hydrozine a
Edited by thewanderer25 (08/23/15 11:56 AM)
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Rebelutionsssss
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Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: thewanderer25]
#22130627 - 08/23/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good luck
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Yukon Cornelius
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Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: thewanderer25]
#22130652 - 08/23/15 12:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You really don't get it do you? Thousands of wannabe clandestine chemists have tried the methods you are just starting to explore and failed miserably, as evidence by LSD not being a widely accessible synthesis.
Meth and DMT are like the starter compounds for understanding drug synthesis, LSD is in a class all it's own.
Also you keep getting caught up in the procedure so much that you forget the most sensitive and difficult step that requires very pricey lab equipment, purification.
If you were legitimately serious about your research then you would start taking chemistry classes, and have enough drive to get through all the extraneous information just for the sake of such a narrow-minded goal.
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Rebelutionsssss
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Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
#22130665 - 08/23/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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People with years of organic chemistry knowledge still fuck up LSD Synths even with the right precursors.
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Yukon Cornelius
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Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#22130707 - 08/23/15 12:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Rebelutionsssss said: People with years of organic chemistry knowledge still fuck up LSD Synths even with the right precursors.
Absolutely, it requires a specific type of synthesis knowledge(lysergamides, which are not covered in a typical chemistry class) and lots of trial and error.
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Re: If you were offered a thumb print would you take it? [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
#22130774 - 08/23/15 12:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The whole thumbprint thing is a bunch of rubbish, mostly. As I'm sure someone pointed out already. I wouldn't take one, and I'm scared of people who would. If someone offered me a massive dose even I would take a few steps back and start walking away. I don't trust people who fuck around with the idea of it or massive doses in general. Not one bit I don't, because I don't think they are right in the head to begin with and are possibly dangerous/might dose me for fun. LOL. It's nonsense and not a good idea really. I've read the chinacat thread back in the day and even then I smelled bullshit interwoven into bits of truth. Hence, why I'd stay away from anyone talking about using thumbprints. Don't want to be near them, don't care to hear about it. My honest opinion.
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Edited by rajabrokes (08/23/15 12:49 PM)
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