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OfflineMr Mycelium
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How should I fix this?
    #22102419 - 08/17/15 11:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hello.

I have been following a bulk tek thanks to floppypeter, using WBS spawn, manure, verm, and coir.  I have run into a little problem but cannot pinpoint what exactly it is as i have read it can be due to many things.  my question is what should i do to fix it? case it more? scratch it? the top layer has become somewhat hard, but not rock solid or anything (i did what i probably shouldnt have and touched it to be sure, using gloves with i sanitized).






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Re: How should I fix this? [Re: Mr Mycelium]
    #22102442 - 08/17/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: How should I fix this? [Re: Mr Mycelium]
    #22102444 - 08/17/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

fruit it:shrug: i see nothing wrong there


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Re: How should I fix this? [Re: cronicr]
    #22102448 - 08/17/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

well, from what i've read and seen is the mycelium has caused an overlay.  i'm new to bulk so im trying to figure out what's right from wrong.


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Re: How should I fix this? [Re: Mr Mycelium]
    #22102474 - 08/17/15 11:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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RogerRabbit said:
Overlay is bullshit and most of it relates to a picture of a normal casing layer in TMC that is incorrectly labeled as overlay.

A few months ago, I 'jokingly' said I'd ban the next person who asked an overlay question and it worked . . .until now. :lol:

What happens is one person asks about overlay, and for the next six months, every new grower thinks he has overlay.

I can guarantee you don't have it, since I've only seen it a handful of times, and I've been known to have grown a few projects in my day.  Full colonization of the casing layer is not overlay.  Give lots of fresh air and light, while misting a few times daily and you'll fruit soon.
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I've seen overlay two or three times in 40 years, so I doubt seriously you are seeing it, especially on an uncased bulk substrate.  It's common for new growers to mistake full colonization for overlay.
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By definition, a bulk substrate can't get 'overlay'.




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I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen overlay in 40 years.
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Uncased bulk substrates should be left alone and covered until 100% colonized.  Overlay is a vastly misunderstood phenomena which only affects species such as agaricus(button mushrooms) which require a casing layer.

Whatever you do don't deep scratch.  That's a failed method which was disproved 30 years ago.
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:shrug: You bulk looks great. Fruit it and enjoy the fruits of your labor


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Re: How should I fix this? [Re: jbaby007]
    #22102497 - 08/17/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you. LOL I apologize if this overlay question is redundant.  just have to make sure i am doing things correctly.  :thumbup:


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Re: How should I fix this? [Re: Mr Mycelium]
    #22102500 - 08/17/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: How should I fix this? [Re: Mr Mycelium]
    #22102505 - 08/17/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Also, the tek calls for me to wait until I see pins to "fruit it". and fruiting in thiis tek means i just add a twin container to the top and tape it down.  would you suggest doing that now, before it pins, or waiting until it pins to do that?  its been a little over a week, maybe 8 days total since i began this step.


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Re: How should I fix this? [Re: Mr Mycelium]
    #22102542 - 08/17/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

pinning triggers trigger pinning so i would fruit it! overlay is also a problem with casing layers only


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Re: How should I fix this? [Re: cronicr]
    #22102600 - 08/17/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

that tek doesnt have any holes for fae, checkout how a dub tub is supposed to look like (like a monotub but you use 2 tubs to mimic 1)
and add holes at substrate level and a couple on the short sides high up on the tub.


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Re: How should I fix this? [Re: spacechildo]
    #22102625 - 08/17/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

yeah i saw that. once i add the second tub over top, there is a gap that goes along the middle for the fae.  according to floppy peter, the holes aren't necessary for this tek.  my next grow, i will use a different tek


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Re: How should I fix this? [Re: Mr Mycelium]
    #22102639 - 08/17/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Mycotopia is kind of a shit source for info. I was a mod there for a second, and we weren't allowed to tell people the best way to do shit, we had to help them with whatever half-assed crap they wanted to do, and be nice about it.


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Re: How should I fix this? [Re: Mr Mycelium]
    #22102640 - 08/17/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

all teks require fresh air, that's why you shouldn't follow a tek that says mushrooms dont need fresh air! :super:

but your sub looks good so just give it good conditions and you'll be golden!


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Re: How should I fix this? [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #22102661 - 08/17/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Mycotopia is kind of a shit source for info. I was a mod there for a second, and we weren't allowed to tell people the best way to do shit, we had to help them with whatever half-assed crap they wanted to do, and be nice about it.



i made about 20 posts there and was threatened with a ban for saying light was beneficial


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Re: How should I fix this? [Re: cronicr]
    #22102689 - 08/17/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)




ready for fruiting.  also have a fan in the room blowing around, not directly at it.  anything else i should add, please let me know.  thank you guys for the great tips and advice!


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Re: How should I fix this? [Re: Mr Mycelium]
    #22102706 - 08/17/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What are you growing? sorry nevermind i can guess..


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Re: How should I fix this? [Re: OysterKing]
    #22103048 - 08/17/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

check ur map slim, we in active country in here….yeeee haw!


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Re: How should I fix this? [Re: Mr Mycelium]
    #22103445 - 08/17/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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anything else i should add, please let me know.




Some holes for FAE.

Really, I would get rid of the top of that dub tub, make a SGFC and throw the part with the sub into the SGFC. There's a reason most of us don't use dub tubs.


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i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.


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Re: How should I fix this? [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #22104231 - 08/17/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

at this point im going to let this one ride out.  i have 3 more quarts almost finished.  could you point me in the direction of a good sgfc bulk tek? no cakes plz


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Re: How should I fix this? [Re: Mr Mycelium]
    #22104250 - 08/17/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

if u have grains (3 qts), i would not use SGFC personally.
spawn to bulk>smaller tub.


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