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Mr Mycelium
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How should I fix this?
#22102419 - 08/17/15 11:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hello.
I have been following a bulk tek thanks to floppypeter, using WBS spawn, manure, verm, and coir. I have run into a little problem but cannot pinpoint what exactly it is as i have read it can be due to many things. my question is what should i do to fix it? case it more? scratch it? the top layer has become somewhat hard, but not rock solid or anything (i did what i probably shouldnt have and touched it to be sure, using gloves with i sanitized).

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Mr Mycelium
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fruit it i see nothing wrong there
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Mr Mycelium
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Re: How should I fix this? [Re: cronicr]
#22102448 - 08/17/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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well, from what i've read and seen is the mycelium has caused an overlay. i'm new to bulk so im trying to figure out what's right from wrong.
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jbaby007
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RogerRabbit said: Overlay is bullshit and most of it relates to a picture of a normal casing layer in TMC that is incorrectly labeled as overlay.
A few months ago, I 'jokingly' said I'd ban the next person who asked an overlay question and it worked . . .until now. 
What happens is one person asks about overlay, and for the next six months, every new grower thinks he has overlay.
I can guarantee you don't have it, since I've only seen it a handful of times, and I've been known to have grown a few projects in my day. Full colonization of the casing layer is not overlay. Give lots of fresh air and light, while misting a few times daily and you'll fruit soon. RR
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9467709#9467709
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RogerRabbit said: I've seen overlay two or three times in 40 years, so I doubt seriously you are seeing it, especially on an uncased bulk substrate. It's common for new growers to mistake full colonization for overlay. RR
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17163830#17163830
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RogerRabbit said: By definition, a bulk substrate can't get 'overlay'.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15803177#15803177
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RogerRabbit said: I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen overlay in 40 years. RR
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13797279#13797279
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RogerRabbit said: Uncased bulk substrates should be left alone and covered until 100% colonized. Overlay is a vastly misunderstood phenomena which only affects species such as agaricus(button mushrooms) which require a casing layer.
Whatever you do don't deep scratch. That's a failed method which was disproved 30 years ago. RR
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13547569#13547569
You bulk looks great. Fruit it and enjoy the fruits of your labor
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Mr Mycelium
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Re: How should I fix this? [Re: jbaby007]
#22102497 - 08/17/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thank you. LOL I apologize if this overlay question is redundant. just have to make sure i am doing things correctly.
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Mr Mycelium
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Also, the tek calls for me to wait until I see pins to "fruit it". and fruiting in thiis tek means i just add a twin container to the top and tape it down. would you suggest doing that now, before it pins, or waiting until it pins to do that? its been a little over a week, maybe 8 days total since i began this step.
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cronicr



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pinning triggers trigger pinning so i would fruit it! overlay is also a problem with casing layers only
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Re: How should I fix this? [Re: cronicr]
#22102600 - 08/17/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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that tek doesnt have any holes for fae, checkout how a dub tub is supposed to look like (like a monotub but you use 2 tubs to mimic 1) and add holes at substrate level and a couple on the short sides high up on the tub.
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Mr Mycelium
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yeah i saw that. once i add the second tub over top, there is a gap that goes along the middle for the fae. according to floppy peter, the holes aren't necessary for this tek. my next grow, i will use a different tek
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36fuckin5
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Mycotopia is kind of a shit source for info. I was a mod there for a second, and we weren't allowed to tell people the best way to do shit, we had to help them with whatever half-assed crap they wanted to do, and be nice about it.
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spacechildo
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all teks require fresh air, that's why you shouldn't follow a tek that says mushrooms dont need fresh air! 
but your sub looks good so just give it good conditions and you'll be golden!
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cronicr



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Re: How should I fix this? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#22102661 - 08/17/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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36fuckin5 said: Mycotopia is kind of a shit source for info. I was a mod there for a second, and we weren't allowed to tell people the best way to do shit, we had to help them with whatever half-assed crap they wanted to do, and be nice about it.
i made about 20 posts there and was threatened with a ban for saying light was beneficial
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Re: How should I fix this? [Re: cronicr]
#22102689 - 08/17/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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ready for fruiting. also have a fan in the room blowing around, not directly at it. anything else i should add, please let me know. thank you guys for the great tips and advice!
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OysterKing
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What are you growing? sorry nevermind i can guess..
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Re: How should I fix this? [Re: OysterKing]
#22103048 - 08/17/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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check ur map slim, we in active country in hereā¦.yeeee haw!
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36fuckin5
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Mr Mycelium said: anything else i should add, please let me know.
Some holes for FAE.
Really, I would get rid of the top of that dub tub, make a SGFC and throw the part with the sub into the SGFC. There's a reason most of us don't use dub tubs.
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Mr Mycelium
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Re: How should I fix this? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#22104231 - 08/17/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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at this point im going to let this one ride out. i have 3 more quarts almost finished. could you point me in the direction of a good sgfc bulk tek? no cakes plz
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blindingleaf
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if u have grains (3 qts), i would not use SGFC personally. spawn to bulk>smaller tub.
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