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LSD saved my life 2
#22102405 - 08/17/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I went from an oxy/Xanax addiction to taking LSD one night and stoping everything cold turkey only to be awaken to a beautiful world I never thought I would see. I since then have become a much more compassionate human, I always take into account how I would want to be treated when I interact with other people now. LSD saved me from a life of addiction and hatred
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TheGreenArrow
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Bill W was a big fan of LSD therapy. Its sad these compounds were only researched for 11 years or so legally.
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larry.fisherman
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Drugs don't do things, you do things. You're also still doing drugs all the time. The only thing that's different is safety profile and day to day usage simply because you can't be high on LSD all the time and still be functional.
Give credit where credit is due. It's like a painter needing glasses, so he gets glasses and he says,"See that nice painting? My optometrist did that."
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Without my teachers help I have no idea where I would be I ended my circle of hatred and addiction but LSD pushed me through the door that I couldn't seem to find on my own
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XLCaps said: Drugs don't do things, you do things. You're also still doing drugs all the time. The only thing that's different is safety profile and day to day usage simply because you can't be high on LSD all the time and still be functional.
Give credit where credit is due. It's like a painter needing glasses, so he gets glasses and he says,"See that nice painting? My optometrist did that."
drugs do do things. hallucinogens are slowly starting to be researched with positive results for their ability to treat addictions. hallucinogens can help give people new perspectives on things that they weren't previously able to.
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You're a towel!
I do drugs recreationally, yes. But I feel like some of the conclutions I've come to with psychedelics have overall been more healthy for me over the long run. In fact I see my life as far worse without them than with them. Not saying that isn't subject to change but, .
Also Bill W. was saying LSD therapy in the presence of a trained psychotherapist for the means of treating addiction. I'm not saying laymen can't use them for their own insights; I'm just saying I think these chemicals have GREAT potential for people fighting things like alcohol addiction and things of that nature.
I think the intent to which you use drugs is really alot of it really. I also use substances in a ritualistic manner as a means of spiritual furtherment. I also feel your assesment of "using drugs all the time" is a little unfair. But whatever.
-------------------- A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, design a building, conn a ship, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve an equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.- Robert A. Heinlein Saint RedBow of the Shroomey Loomey-Patron Saint of Sandbaggin Sumbitchs
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ive always wondered where i would be had i never done mushrooms and had all those realizations about my life, i was really going down hill before that experience, and the worse part about it was i was not really aware of it. it was as if i was blind, living in some kind of dazed black and white dream.
i still went through many ups and downs after those psychedelic experiences, but then i was aware of my actions for the most part, i knew where i was headed and i worked really hard to stay in the right direction, and here i am today, after years and years of contemplation and prayer, i can say that i am a much much better person than before, and psychedelics, specifically mushrooms and cactus, where a major catalyst in that department.
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Re: LSD saved my life [Re: 404]
#22102467 - 08/17/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Clearly there is a chemical reaction. No one would do them if they didn't. I just too often see people discount their own potential by giving way too much credit to the drugs. Hallucinogens speed up a process of thought that could take a life time. That's awesome, a miracle really, but most people don't need these things aside from some fun or philosophy.
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I'd say at certain times thats kind of hard to achieve when you get in a rut XL. For that they SHOULD be utilized as well IMHO.
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Re: LSD saved my life [Re: 404] 1
#22102476 - 08/17/15 11:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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A dear friend of mine quit smoking due to an LSD session. I myself have quit smoking twice, once due to a session with a single seed of Datura metel, the other due to several sessions with Methoxetamine.
Drugs DO do things.
Here have a Jägermeister.. Oops that was Syrup of Ipecac.. Ah well, drugs dont do things right? 
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TheGreenArrow
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Re: LSD saved my life [Re: Asante]
#22102485 - 08/17/15 11:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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This guy.
-------------------- A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, design a building, conn a ship, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve an equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.- Robert A. Heinlein Saint RedBow of the Shroomey Loomey-Patron Saint of Sandbaggin Sumbitchs
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larry.fisherman
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TheGreenArrow said: I'd say at certain times thats kind of hard to achieve when you get in a rut XL. For that they SHOULD be utilized as well IMHO.
That's why I said most people. I think I heard something like 15-20% of people develop depression at some point in their lives. Well that means at least 15% of people could use some shrooms. Wouldn't be too much of a stretch to say 1 in 3 really.
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rebel calling it saved implies a knowledge of the future, life is full of variables and can completely change in a moment.
i am happy that you are avoiding some harsh drug choices and doing well but don't take it for granted.
lots of times that is how the crutch becomes a hindrance to the walk, too much of a good thing and you blow your brain.
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XLCaps said: I just too often see people discount their own potential by giving way too much credit to the drugs.
u're right, i've always seen it as like a 50/50 type relationship. u are shown the path, but it is u who has to walk through.
give them credit, but give urself some credit as well.  
and also give god credit
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Re: LSD saved my life [Re: zZZz]
#22102496 - 08/17/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Equal credit to all things worthy of it.
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i wouldn't have been able to break where my addiction was to cigs/nicotine. if not for hallucinogens, i would be still a pack a day smoker. i still slip up occaisionally now and again, but it is by and large due to drinking.
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Re: LSD saved my life [Re: 404]
#22102517 - 08/17/15 11:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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And before I did mushrooms and salvia I was an opiate addict.
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TheGreenArrow
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Yeah but I actually have friends that came back from the middle east with some horrific stories. It's straight up sad to me that there has been so much red tape around psychedelic therapy for people that truly just wanted to do an honorable thing. One guy I know in particular was a medic and the stuff that guy went through just to try and honestly help other human life is absolutely harrowing.
It's sobering thinking that something like 22 veterans a day kill themselves after coming back from conflict. I'd say its a pretty vital thing to be looking into things like MDMA therapy and things of that nature.
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I try and give credit where credit is due but often times I forget about myself. Things have changed but there's still a lot more growth to be had
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