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Re: Who here thinks that life is literally a dream? [Re: circastes]
    #22131095 - 08/23/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What is a definition of a dream, when you are dreaming already? Ever had a dream inside of a dream?



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Re: Who here thinks that life is literally a dream? [Re: ivander]
    #22133023 - 08/23/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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ivander said:
What is a definition of a dream, when you are dreaming already? Ever had a dream inside of a dream?






The intro is kinda long but this video explain some shit.
Edit: actually this is the wrong video and I'm too lazy to find the right one.


Edited by Eggtimer (08/23/15 10:51 PM)


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Re: Who here thinks that life is literally a dream? [Re: Asante]
    #22135679 - 08/24/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Asante said:
I.

We are not an earthly being dreaming of spirituality, we are a spiritual being having an earthly dream.

When we die we wake up.




This is my hope as well.


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Re: Who here thinks that life is literally a dream? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #22135838 - 08/24/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

In that context I consider my out of body experiences some kind of 'waking up'.

But seriously, you know, I'm up this morning wondering what the hell all this is, with a new vigour. I've been a bit too preoccupied with illness to really consider the bigger picture of what I've been through and discovered (OBEs, healing, weather influence, imaginations of self, changes in the 'doors of perception') but this is a great morning so far and I'm just wondering what it all means.

I want to take an adventure like The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe or something.

I need to do shrooms again don't I?

Stupid dopamine blockers... blocking psilocin too...


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Re: Who here thinks that life is literally a dream? [Re: circastes]
    #22135930 - 08/24/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

the world could be anything:llamastare:


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Re: Who here thinks that life is literally a dream? [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22135944 - 08/24/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:dawerp:

Here's this morning's soundtrack, this stuff is spinning me out.



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Re: Who here thinks that life is literally a dream? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #22135965 - 08/24/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

MarkostheGnostic said:
Quote:

Asante said:
I.

We are not an earthly being dreaming of spirituality, we are a spiritual being having an earthly dream.

When we die we wake up.




This is my hope as well.




Thirded.


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Re: Who here thinks that life is literally a dream? [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #22136369 - 08/24/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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DividedQuantum said:
Quote:

MarkostheGnostic said:
Quote:

Asante said:
I.

We are not an earthly being dreaming of spirituality, we are a spiritual being having an earthly dream.

When we die we wake up.




This is my hope as well.




Thirded.



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Re: Who here thinks that life is literally a dream? *DELETED* [Re: circastes]
    #22149179 - 08/26/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Who here thinks that life is literally a dream? [Re: Lucis]
    #22149393 - 08/26/15 10:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Fennario said:a specific type of female




Are you Ferengi?

To the topic: could be. Seeing how connected everyone and everything is, there is clearly more to this world than meets the eye. Too bad perception is so fragile and easily manipulated though (our own and even others, all "magic" just plays upon this and human bias), often seems as though we are not meant to know the truth, only to explore.


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Re: Who here thinks that life is literally a dream? [Re: withoutlabel]
    #22150302 - 08/27/15 08:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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often seems as though we are not meant to know the truth, only to explore.



Interesting. :thumbup:


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Re: Who here thinks that life is literally a dream? [Re: circastes]
    #22150886 - 08/27/15 10:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Any takers? What's your evidence?

My evidence -

1. Eyes change in the mirror according to imagination, suggesting one is dreaming.

2. Weather and quality of world I'm in is depended upon state of mind.

3. Brain and body heal at will and are getting younger.

Seems the best explanation to suit the facts here is - this is 'some kind of dream'.

I feel a bit euphoric now, perhaps its the peace of mind from getting out of this nihilism I've been experiencing lately.

:freewilly:




We have dreams that we tend to forget, but at times we has feelings that we have done this before and which that is called Dejavu; and which I believed that Dejavu is when we dreamed about something that it happened, like a premonition of some sort, but we have forgotten about the dream that we have had and trying to figure out or recalled the situation where it might of have happened before.


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Re: Who here thinks that life is literally a dream? [Re: Douglas Howard]
    #22155481 - 08/28/15 09:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I feel that our waking state is dream like and when this quality is absent life is just a ritual without the magic.
The more I am in the dreamlike state when awake the more aware of my feelings and instincts  'I' become.
Thinking about this state decreases the awareness of it for me.
Life lived in moments of presence becomes full of wonder and mystery. Just like a dream.


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Re: Who here thinks that life is literally a dream? [Re: Heyowana]
    #22902106 - 02/13/16 11:24 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

This may be relevant depending on your perception of what life being dream like means.
One day IT convinced me to believe, think and feel that life is a dream. I use IT to refer to an unexplainable side to mushroom tripping.

I would have dreams like others do that meanie (Copelandia cyanescens) season was starting. Often there were ferocious dogs or demons exploding through walls or doors in my dreams. I'd wake up and go on my next meanie adventure.

This would entail driving 300km to my uncles farm. No one lived there so I had the 400acre property to myself. There was a little shack that I'd live in. Then for the next 4 days with each visit I would mega dose on them until something meaningful happened.

One time something a lot more meaningful happened to me than I could have imagined. I always ate the meanies in excess. Some days after eating them I would go out and eat them straight off the cow manure crawling around on all fours thinking I was a wild animal.

Not this time though. I was very annoyed with someone in my life and could not stop thinking about how I wanted to get even with them some how. I left the shed feeling very aggressive and walked up a steep hill. As the meanies kept coming on I felt like ants were inside my clothes crawling around and irritating me.

The hills in that part of the world are very steep. At the top of that hill was a bulldozer with a whole field of Datura strammonium plants growing around it. When I got up there with my two dogs I felt much calmer. The visuals were coming on and I could see what looked like a bird made out of rainbows when I closed my eyes.

I started seeing eagles in my minds eye. I laid down on my back with my head to the North. As I laid down I said out loud "Eagles are very beautiful birds." I felt a force sucking my body into a dream. I opened my eyes and I was in the shed with my head still facing North and my body in the same position as well.

I got up and was gasping for air as if I couldn't breathe the air any more. The cattle that my dogs always chase off had come around the house to eat the grass while I was away.They got a shock when they saw me because they were wild. I just had so much trouble breathing as if I wasn't meant to breathe anymore.

My dogs weren't there of course because an instant before this I had been about a kilometer away on top of a hill. I walked down to the creek and kept thinking there was something I had forgotten. The creek was only about 30 meters from the shed and by the time I got there I realised what IT was. I had forgotten my name.

Who am I? I kept thinking and What is my name? I could not remember. It really irked me and amazed me that I could not remember my own name. I walked down the creek a fair way thinking that "If I don't remember my name I'm done for. I have to remember it."

I sat down at a very pretty place where two creeks join. Then I got up and walked in circles but try as hard as I could I could not remember my name. Funny thing was when I was up on the hill I was very out of it. I was still out of it now and I had spent most of the afternoon not being able to remember who I was.

When it was twilight I remembered who I was. I then walked back to the shed and my dogs were there with wagging tails greeting their long lost friend. I've discussed this story with everyone I know well. They dismiss it of course as a mental aberration.

It wasn't but that's not the point. The point to me was that life is a dream. I just had to realise it.


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Re: Who here thinks that life is literally a dream? [Re: circastes]
    #22902260 - 02/14/16 12:13 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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circastes said:
Any takers? What's your evidence?

My evidence -

1. Eyes change in the mirror according to imagination, suggesting one is dreaming.

2. Weather and quality of world I'm in is depended upon state of mind.

3. Brain and body heal at will and are getting younger.

Seems the best explanation to suit the facts here is - this is 'some kind of dream'.

I feel a bit euphoric now, perhaps its the peace of mind from getting out of this nihilism I've been experiencing lately.

:freewilly:





You definately are dreaming.

I however am wide awake.

:whoa:

I'm considering switching over to your side.


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Re: Who here thinks that life is literally a dream? [Re: Icelander] * 1
    #22906461 - 02/15/16 06:52 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

It is a dream quite literally: It is a projection of consciousness into a virtual and independent working time space from the source as a form of embodied being experiencing temporal causality. Causality is created by three different things: History or initial conditions, Present variables, and potential quantum state manifestations thereof.

The current reality is a consensual reality created by a thought form being that feeds it's individual ego in a vain attempt to understand the initial conditions of unity. It is the manifestation of what we call quantum duality and is what most people call God.

When you dream it is the same: A projection of your awareness (consciousness)and your individual ego into a virtual and independent working time space, except it is outside the local time-stream causality domain enforced by the controlling entity.

The only difference is the dream-state we are currently living in is the dream of another conscious being. As such, this domain is mostly controlled by the fractal matrix projected by an observing singularity as a means to sustain it's desired form. In your own dream, you simply manifest thought forms to integrate what was experienced in the causal reality. It is doing the same thing...

Space-Time itself is a fractal created by a quanta divided by a singularity. The quanta is awareness itself, pure consciousness, while the singularity is it's mirror image of form.


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Re: Who here thinks that life is literally a dream? [Re: circastes]
    #22907053 - 02/15/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

see how much a 'dream' it is if you step out in front of a busy road! Though you won't know what hit you. But if say you have a dream of falling -or being hit by a truck-you are jolted awake and realize it is a dream

it is therefore more realistic to say that life has dreamlike qualities


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Re: Who here thinks that life is literally a dream? [Re: Icelander]
    #22907676 - 02/15/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Icelander said:
Quote:

circastes said:
Any takers? What's your evidence?

My evidence -

1. Eyes change in the mirror according to imagination, suggesting one is dreaming.

2. Weather and quality of world I'm in is depended upon state of mind.

3. Brain and body heal at will and are getting younger.

Seems the best explanation to suit the facts here is - this is 'some kind of dream'.

I feel a bit euphoric now, perhaps its the peace of mind from getting out of this nihilism I've been experiencing lately.

:freewilly:





You definately are dreaming.

I however am wide awake.

:whoa:

I'm considering switching over to your side.



:lol:


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Re: Who here thinks that life is literally a dream? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #22907699 - 02/15/16 02:29 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

MarkostheGnostic said:
Quote:

Asante said:
I.

We are not an earthly being dreaming of spirituality, we are a spiritual being having an earthly dream.

When we die we wake up.




This is my hope as well.




if this is the case then i am doing the right  think by cleansing the earth of human waste - such as mcdonald bags thrown out the window

and we need to plant seeds


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Re: Who here thinks that life is literally a dream? [Re: circastes]
    #22908443 - 02/15/16 05:27 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Life is a dream in the Mind of God, where relatively speaking, it's ephemeral dream-nature is experienced by Itself as Real, as concrete. Our own dreams seem real when our mind is involved and identified with them, but unlike the Divine Mind, our dream content probably does not have an objective existence. Nevertheless, the dream-metaphor continues to work. When we sicken and die, God is ceasing to dream us as dream-characters. One can extend the dissolution of a person, animal or thing to the entire universe in Hindu cosmology, where Vishnu sleeps, producing Brahma on a lotus from his navel, and Brahma creates the universe. The age of the universe is subdivided from "about 311,040,000,000,000 years (one life of Brahma, the creator)" which is then destroyed in a process named pralaya.* Then the universe is reabsorbed into Vishnu and the process repeats itself ad infinitum in an oscillating or cyclical model of creation (suggested by Einstein in 1930) as well as in Hindu cosmology.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_model ;

The Matrix trilogy was a modern myth that drew upon Hindu, Buddhist, and Gnostic Christian themes, all of which regard Reality to be mental in nature, or in the films electronic Simulacra and Simulation, which is the title of a book by philosopher Jean Baudrillard, which in the first film was the hollowed out stash box for Thomas Anderson's (Neo's) illegal software. (Thomas is a well-known pseudo-Gnostic gospel, Anderson can be seen to be a reference to the biblical "Son of Man" inasmuch as 'Ander' is a form of 'andro' which means 'man').

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_cosmology



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