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OfflineNamyellit
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Question of Dosage Timing
    #22101314 - 08/17/15 02:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I am not really new to the world of psychedelics.  I am familiar with most RCs, LSD, mushies etc. 

My question is that my gf feels whatever it is we are taking a full like 500% faster than me / anyone in the room.

When she first ate shrooms and felt them in about 2-5 minutes of eating them and could hardly walk at this festival I thought she was bullshitting but it comes to be that everything (mdma, shrooms, lucy) hits her in about a 5th of the time it takes me or friends. 

Like if I drop L she'll feel it 5 minutes after we dose and be floored/faced by 10 minutes.  She is typically hypersensitive to chemicals but I don't understand why that affects the comeup duration.  Likewise; she ends the experience much before anyone else, (her shroom trips last about 3-4 hours and her L trips about 5-6 hours; I'm like 4-6 and 6-10).

So we're gonna try everyone else dosing and waiting like 30 minutes for her to dose hoping that it might put us on equal planes of grooviness. 

I know everyone's body chemistry is different and that is more or less what i'm marking it down to, I am just sort of curious.  I even asked her if she was on anything like SSRIs or MAOIs etc out of curiosity but the only thing is drugs for thyroid deficiency.


Any input would be appreciated!


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Re: Question of Dosage Timing [Re: Namyellit]
    #22101484 - 08/17/15 05:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds like placebo effects. I took caps on the weekend but they take about three hours to work. I've had this in the past you get to a point and say fk it these shrooms aren't gonna do anything then zang! and they hit hard, next time I'm taking out the fine powder and just swallowing that. Anyone else suffer from this? Cause I hate the taste of cubes.


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Re: Question of Dosage Timing [Re: Laughingcowwa]
    #22101518 - 08/17/15 05:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Your girlfriend is broken, consider getting a new one.

Placebo effects might explain the quick kick in but it doesn't explain the shorter duration of effects. :shrug:


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Re: Question of Dosage Timing [Re: GoldenEye]
    #22101585 - 08/17/15 06:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds like she has a fast metabolism.


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Re: Question of Dosage Timing [Re: Laughingcowwa]
    #22101745 - 08/17/15 07:33 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Laughingcowwa said:
Sounds like placebo effects. I took caps on the weekend but they take about three hours to work. I've had this in the past you get to a point and say fk it these shrooms aren't gonna do anything then zang! and they hit hard, next time I'm taking out the fine powder and just swallowing that. Anyone else suffer from this? Cause I hate the taste of cubes.



3 hours for mushrooms to work? I've never had that happen. Usually by 3 hours I'm already starting to feel myself starting to level off after the peak. yeah consuming as powder will probably help. Also make sure you don't eat a big meal before you dose.


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Re: Question of Dosage Timing [Re: Namyellit]
    #22105156 - 08/18/15 01:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I was thinking fast metabolism too but idk quite how that relates.

Any more input?  It's not placebo, I have covered that base with her.


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Re: Question of Dosage Timing [Re: Namyellit]
    #22105174 - 08/18/15 01:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Fast metabolism can also affect how the body metabolizes drugs. If her liver were to work faster than yours or the average persons, then she would be less drunk or high much faster as a result.

Does her fast metabolism effect other drugs as well, like alcohol or cannabis?


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Re: Question of Dosage Timing [Re: Achillita]
    #22105326 - 08/18/15 03:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Feels Lucy in 5 minutes :awesketch: can't be


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Re: Question of Dosage Timing [Re: Achillita]
    #22106876 - 08/18/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Achillita said:
Fast metabolism can also affect how the body metabolizes drugs. If her liver were to work faster than yours or the average persons, then she would be less drunk or high much faster as a result.

Does her fast metabolism effect other drugs as well, like alcohol or cannabis?




it's interesting with cannabis she is a microweight.  like .03 of some dankity and with alcohol, if she drinks beer she gets drunk after legitimately one.. but if she drinks liquor she can usually out drink me.  She can't wine at all, she gets almost an instant hangover (someone mentioned that it is probably the sulfites in it)


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Re: Question of Dosage Timing [Re: Namyellit]
    #22115017 - 08/20/15 12:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

+++


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Re: Question of Dosage Timing [Re: Namyellit]
    #22124827 - 08/21/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Last bump before I abandon thread~


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Re: Question of Dosage Timing [Re: Namyellit]
    #22125357 - 08/22/15 01:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What would you like us to say OP?

Would you like someone to propose a process through which your girlfriend could experience drugs in exactly the same way as you do?

I think I have one here:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22530103-700-first-human-head-transplant-could-happen-in-two-years/


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Re: Question of Dosage Timing [Re: GoldenEye]
    #22133743 - 08/24/15 02:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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GoldenEye said:
What would you like us to say OP?

Would you like someone to propose a process through which your girlfriend could experience drugs in exactly the same way as you do?

I think I have one here:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22530103-700-first-human-head-transplant-could-happen-in-two-years/




nice.  that's exactly what i'm after
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idk man.. i'm just looking for someone who is more experienced to give me guesses as to why they think someone might have an extremely short come up to psychoactive substances.  Don't fault me for being curious.


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Re: Question of Dosage Timing [Re: Namyellit]
    #22133899 - 08/24/15 04:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It's either placebo at the start, and her not realizing that it is still affecting her during the comedown time.

Or she has a fast metabolism(like much faster than most) and is sensitive to chemicals in general. That would mean her liver would be able to metabolize the chemicals much faster. That or she could gain tolerance faster than normal because of her brain chemistry thus ending the trip faster.

Honestly there could be tons of different things causing this. My best bet is either fast metabolism, or placebo.

This might sound like a kinda shitty thing(probably best to ask her in advance), but you could dose her randomly with an empty piece of blotter paper and see if she feels it within the same amount of time. If she doesn't then just give her the real L.

But the placebo effect is very real, and could be big influence on how people expect to act. I've seen people thinking they are drinking alcohol acting drunk, or even knew someone who got sold oregano as weed(wanna be stoner) think they got high smoking it. Hell, a long time ago when I was in middle school. Some girl bought "coke" and started snorting lines in class and thought she was tweaking. It turned out someone sold her a bag of salt for 50 bucks...


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Re: Question of Dosage Timing [Re: Achillita]
    #22143875 - 08/25/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Achillita said:
It's either placebo at the start, and her not realizing that it is still affecting her during the comedown time.

Or she has a fast metabolism(like much faster than most) and is sensitive to chemicals in general. That would mean her liver would be able to metabolize the chemicals much faster. That or she could gain tolerance faster than normal because of her brain chemistry thus ending the trip faster.

Honestly there could be tons of different things causing this. My best bet is either fast metabolism, or placebo.

This might sound like a kinda shitty thing(probably best to ask her in advance), but you could dose her randomly with an empty piece of blotter paper and see if she feels it within the same amount of time. If she doesn't then just give her the real L.

But the placebo effect is very real, and could be big influence on how people expect to act. I've seen people thinking they are drinking alcohol acting drunk, or even knew someone who got sold oregano as weed(wanna be stoner) think they got high smoking it. Hell, a long time ago when I was in middle school. Some girl bought "coke" and started snorting lines in class and thought she was tweaking. It turned out someone sold her a bag of salt for 50 bucks...




Dude quality post.  Legit.  Thank you.  I am a bit confuzzled at the moment in general but I will reread this as it is quite informative.

Thanks for the level-headed opinion :smile:

if i knew how to +rep you i would if thats still a thing


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