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yageman
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Re: Why does USA politics hate magic mushrooms? [Re: yageman]
#6385004 - 12/18/06 11:41 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Put anything in your body. Kill yourself and you go to hell...lol Kill your friend in the process of killing yourself your entering new territory.
Youre a twit.
You know what I said. Its your job now to connect the dots between what I was saying and what you have been farting out your ass.
You can do this. I know it. You are pretty angry and opinionated. I have a feeling you can connect the dots, or at the very least, read and comprehend.
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
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wonderwhy
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Re: Why does USA politics hate magic mushrooms? [Re: CaptainCrunch]
#11191001 - 10/05/09 11:11 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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CaptainCrunch said: "Plant teachers will put a dent in drug company profits. Now that they know how to capitalize on disorders of the mind, any possible alternative to taking foul drugs like prozac (which they keep many people on for life) would surly stop the profits.
Plus, any form of free thinking takes control away from the few... "
Aren't we sounding a bit crazy? I participate in mushroom use as well as other drugs, but i do not believe drugs should be legal.. At this point in your thread all i am hearing is justifications, That is, that "everyone" feels the need to justify ones drug use by any means possible, to make them self's feel better about using drugs.. First there is no "control of the few",(Maybe we should all wear tin foil hats so the government cant read our minds) anyway in the statement above as well as some of the other conspiracy/crazy comments mentioned in this thread, you only prove why drugs should be illegal because they're making you sound insane!!! but i guess there's two sides to this, one's insanity is another's freedom. But if you ever want to wake up, and come back from lala land and realize the government is not out to get us. And in fact WE are the government then maybe you'll be able to discuss the legality of drugs..
Okay...I just randomly stumbled upon this page in this thread which I'm pretty sure is dead, but I could not resist letting you know how stupid and DISGUSTING your thinking is.
First of all, if tripping on mushrooms makes someone "sound insane"...SO WHAT? If a grown adult wants to smoke/eat some plant or fungi that has a chance of making him go insane, THAT'S HIS FUCKING RIGHT!!! Who are you to tell someone else what he can or cannot do to his own body? How dare you say someone should be snatched from his/her home and thrown in prison for eating a magic mushroom?
And yet you admit to tripping on magic mushrooms yourself. I'm assuming you don't think you deserve to be in prison right now...and that would mean you think you should have legal rights that others don't. That's the kind of thinking that led to slavery, segregation, and the banning of interracial and same-sex marriage.
In the future...please, PLEASE spare everyone from your ignorant bile.
PS: Learn how to write above a 2nd grade level you dumbass.
Edited by wonderwhy (10/05/09 11:51 PM)
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wonderwhy
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Re: Why does USA politics hate magic mushrooms? [Re: CaptainCrunch]
#11191146 - 10/05/09 11:48 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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After reading the next to last page of this thread, I think captain crunch is just a troll. He might not even believe any of the bullshit he typed. He just knew that's what would piss people off on a shroom website.
Basically, he's a loser who gets off on pissing people off. He can only do it anonymously online because he's too much of a coward to pick fights with people in person.
Everyone, please, don't respond to this imbecile ever again no matter what he says. He's not trying to have a debate with you. He might not even disagree with you. He's just trying to piss you off because he's a sadistic freak and it makes him feel good.
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ShroomMantis

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Re: Why does USA politics hate magic mushrooms? [Re: Jon]
#17418278 - 12/19/12 05:51 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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The simple answer is because of 1960's-70's counterculture. US History pertaining to drug laws has a very simple formula. "Fringe citizens" or "Undesirables" make up the primary users of said drug, outlaw what they do so that they can be taken out of society much easier. Racism is a common theme in US drug policy also. Cannabis was demonized as a Hispanic/Black drug in the 20's. Cocaine's push to illegality was aided by the mass hysteria of it making "Negro dock workers violent and sex-crazed for white women" (Paraphrased, but the exact quote is nearly identical) As for LSD, Shrooms and Psychedelics at large, we have the Powers that be during the Hippie era to thank for their push into criminalization. But that which truly bothers me regarding US drug policy and the current Zeitgeist regarding Cannabis reform is that these pro-pot activists rarely make a case for Psilocybin Mushrooms which literally has ALL the exact same arguments for legalization that pot does. Organic, Non-addictive, Remarkably nontoxic and has concrete medicinal value as well as immense Spiritual value, infinitely more so than pot in that department. Also I'd find Mushrooms to be an even better candidate for decriminalization/legalization than pot solely due to addictive potential. I know dozens of people that smoke pot multiple times daily, every single day (Which I myself do and find nothing wrong with, just food for thought) because Cannabis IS moderately psychologically addictive. I've never met anyone that does Mushrooms more than a couple times a month, let alone daily. I hope that one day the US Government makes reasonable decisions regarding Drug Policy but that really seems like a fantasy, unfortunately.
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KevinDontWave
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Re: Why does USA politics hate magic mushrooms? [Re: ShroomMantis]
#17419281 - 12/19/12 09:16 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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stellarshnap
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Re: Why does USA politics hate magic mushrooms? [Re: KevinDontWave]
#17421632 - 12/20/12 11:28 AM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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The way I look at it the fact that drugs in general are illegal is a very multi-faceted topic. 1. Drugs cause lack of productivity. Anyone who tries to argue that is in denial. Our society is one which runs on productivity, which leads into consumerism, which leads back to productivity, in order to sustain more consumption. It's a vicious cycle. When drugs are introduced into the equation, productivity ceases to be so productive, thus consumption ceases to be so consuming, thus productivity needs no longer to be so productive. Thus the economy built collapses. Most drug-users I know, especially of psychedelics, tend to no longer desire the more useless material things perpetuated, as they find happiness within themselves, not their belongings.
2. A lack of control. Whether the veil lifted is a delusional one or not, the process of de-conditioning undergone empowers the individual. It allows us to see that all we have been taught regarding the machinations of society and life, is not necessarily true. It gives us courage to abstain from conformity, which leads us to abstain from obedience, which leads to a lack of respect for authority, which leads to greater individual freedom. Be it true or delusional, this cannot be argued. This can also be linked back to the first point, lack of respect for authority, the realization that the way society tells us to live is not a good way of living, leads to lack of consumption, thus lack of productivity.
3. The psychological detriments possible. As we all know, psychedelics are shrouded in mystery. Which only makes certain individuals more curious, while scaring others away. Psychedelics are not for everyone. Undoubtedly there are individuals who with a meager dose of 1/16th of mushrooms, will descend into the chaos of utter insanity, unwillingly. On the other hand, there are individuals who can take 1/4th and walk away unscathed. The complexities regarding psychological effects are so complex, that the legality of these substances could easily lead to a drastic increase in modern messiah's, and individuals whose mental processes have been completely and utterly distorted, inciting chaotic insanity.
4. The abolition of monetary value. Most users of psychedelics I have come to know and love, despise our society. One of the reasons being the significance money holds in society. Is money the root of all evil? Or is it one of the catalysts of mass ignorance? Or is it both? Ignorance is one of the factors that plays into the value of money. Keeping up with trends, designer clothes, etc. If psychedelics were to be legal, those who could handle and integrate the experience into reality, would realize the stupidity in consumerism, which brings us back to the first point.
Looking at it this way, we find that drugs are illegal in our society due to a multitude of factors, many I have not listed, all intertwining with eachother. Simply put, drugs and modern society are incompatible.
-------------------- Careful, though your mind may be over matter, matter is all we really know. "Or is it?" The problem with intelligence is that it fosters arrogance, and arrogance suffocates intelligence. True intelligence however, bites holes in the bag.
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brokentv


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Re: Why does USA politics hate magic mushrooms? [Re: beavis190]
#17425233 - 12/20/12 11:15 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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beavis190 said: hallucinogens have been used to treat physical addiction..they should just make them legal and all the addicts could be cured!!!!..lol...mushrooms are helping me quit smoking??i didnt intend on quiting and i love cigs when im tripping but after a huge mushroom trip i wont touch a cig for a few days...no idea why i just dont even think about smoking
This is why I would like to trip in the near future. As a cigarette smoker, i'm wondering if mushrooms could help to quit cigs.
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TrentBoyett
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Re: Why does USA politics hate magic mushrooms? [Re: brokentv]
#17425601 - 12/21/12 12:51 AM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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I had a good time reading through this post, thanks OP. I've read a lot of valid points and a lot of points I think are invalid. In my opinion drugs are illegal for for a combination of a lot of the points made in this post. I'm just glad that marijuana is now legal in a few states. Though not truly 100% legal because the feds could still step in and enforce the federal law. I just hope this is a precursor to a lot of good things to come such as legality of marijuana on a federal level, and with that a lot of things will change such as how people value personal freedoms and eventually legality of all drugs.
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Niandraamon
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Re: Why does USA politics hate magic mushrooms? [Re: Jon]
#22099231 - 08/16/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Its bad that not only USA but in fact almost every countries banned shrooms. I know only one natural entheogenic psychedeliŃ plant that is not illegal in the world so much as mushrooms, LSD, mescaline etc. The ibogaine is banned only in 6 countries, as i know.
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