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Moonshoe
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Synthetic cannibinoids
#22098993 - 08/16/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi guys and girls !
I am very interested in people's experiences with synthetic cannibinoids.
Please post what synthetic cannibinoids you have tried and anything you can share about the experience.
What was the high like? What kind of side effects did you experience?
Do you still use them? Would you recommend them?
Was there addiction or withdrawal?
Do you think they are dangerous or safe?
Are the risks exaggerated or underestimated?
Thank you for your contributions!
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Re: Synthetic cannibinoids [Re: Moonshoe]
#22099010 - 08/16/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I dunno the specific ones I've tried, I always just got them from the head shop under a variety of brands. I didn't really like them much, they were either extremely weak or just way too strong and it would be different every time right down to different hits of the same bowl. It was usually way too strong and intense though.
I eventually stopped because I took a hit once and swear I was dying. I pretty much lost function, started turning ghost white and was fighting like hell just to stay conscious. Was afraid if I passed out that was it. I eventually did pass out and then started convulsing. My wife was sitting there watching the entire time and I scared the shit out of her, I was scared too though.
Never touched the shit again. I think they're dangerous as hell and would never recommend their use. But I'm not gonna be one of those people that crusade to have something I had a bad experience with banned based on my experience. So if someone wants to use them, feel free. I still say that shit is highly unpredictable and dangerous though.
Oh and we don't for sure that this is the cause, but a friend of mine who got heavy into that shit, has been in and out of the hospital for a variety of reasons. Puking up blood, dizzy spells, heart problems and bunch of other shit I can't remember off the top of my head. It all started about a month or two into his heavy use of them. He was healthy before getting into that stuff though. The doctors can't figure out what's going on though.
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Re: Synthetic cannibinoids [Re: Shroomslip]
#22099029 - 08/16/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: I dunno the specific ones I've tried, I always just got them from the head shop under a variety of brands. I didn't really like them much, they were either extremely weak or just way too strong and it would be different every time right down to different hits of the same bowl. It was usually way too strong and intense though.
I eventually stopped because I took a hit once and swear I was dying. I pretty much lost function, started turning ghost white and was fighting like hell just to stay conscious. Was afraid if I passed out that was it. I eventually did pass out and then started convulsing. My wife was sitting there watching the entire time and I scared the shit out of her, I was scared too though.
Never touched the shit again. I think they're dangerous as hell and would never recommend their use. But I'm not gonna be one of those people that crusade to have something I had a bad experience with banned based on my experience. So if someone wants to use them, feel free. I still say that shit is highly unpredictable and dangerous though.
word for word, this.
They are HIGHLY addictive. They cause a FAR greater dopamine release than marijuana.
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I think my worst experience was with the K2 Diamond blend.
I was retarded and took a hug fucking rip out it outta ROOR and had a full blown psychedelic freak out. I was only like 17 at the time and didn't really have any prior hallucinogen experience so needless to say I definitely lost my shit. I also noticed it was really hard for me to breath and I felt like somebody was taking a chainsaw to my brain.
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Re: Synthetic cannibinoids [Re: Moonshoe]
#22099169 - 08/16/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I tried some of the original JWH chemicals. I thought it was decent. But, it fucked up my cannabis tolerance. I used to get high off of a couple of hits from the bowl. Now, it seems like I have to smoke a few bowls to get the same effects. Also, after reading about some of the horror stories out there, I decided to steer clear of them. I think some of them are dangerous and some are safe. But, we don't really know which is which.
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I tried some that tasted of pineapple and like 2 hits got me absolutely fucked up. pure body high I could move but definitely didn't want to. It was one of the first kinds that were available in my state. Haven't tried it again since
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It's not worth it though I know people who literally lost their good health over night lights and smokable synthetics. One has bad heart problems now. And I'm sure their brains are fucking fried.
Don't use it man.
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impatientguy said: I tried some that tasted of pineapple and like 2 hits got me absolutely fucked up. pure body high I could move but definitely didn't want to. It was one of the first kinds that were available in my state. Haven't tried it again since
Yeah I just did 5 and I'm pretty fuckin baked.
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Personally i loved the stuff when i used to be able to get it across the counter.
It was slightly addictive. I loved how high the stuff could get you though.
Being gripped in the embrace of the fear and paranoia was a pretty fun ride IMO. I always smoked it alone, at my house.
I remember having ego loss a couple times from smoking it. I didn't know my own name or why i was where i was or what i was doing.
I thought it was really enjoyable and i never had any negative effects from it other than my throat feeling a little rough after smoking it.
I enjoyed the extreme paranoia though, i considered it to just be part of the high. You come down in 15-20 minutes anyways
Edit: I should probably add that just because i never had any negative side effects, that doesn't mean they are safe really. Theres literally hundreds of these types of chemicals now, some may be safe, but some could be dangerous.
I was doing them 4 or 5 years ago. Who knows whats on the market nowadays
Edited by MilkdudTitties (08/16/15 04:06 PM)
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Definitely addicting, and I felt pretty sick and fatigued on withdrawal. Also pretty intense derealization/depersonlization. I was smoking a lot as I was making my own blends. The last blend I was making was UR-144 and it was a short lived high so it was very compulsive.
Other noids I tried: JWH-073, 018, 081, 122, 210 AM-2201
It was best blended. My favorite was JWH-122 as it lasted about 2 hours vs 30 minutes like the others. Add a small amount of 018 as it was super potent, and a little bit of 210 and you had yourself a nice blend that mimic'd weed quite well. Mixing the chems was always better than single chem blends.
All these chems are illegal now so it'd be a lot harder to acquire. They also test for them in extended drug tests, so there isn't any incentive to use them if you are on probation.
Honestly, I'd stay away from all synth noids.
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Were you taking them to avoid drug tests? What was the reason for exploring them?
Thanks for the feedback all, very interesting and informative, please keep it coming!
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Re: Synthetic cannibinoids [Re: Moonshoe]
#22100652 - 08/16/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I honestly can't remember why I started using them. It was a long time ago. It was either for drug testing or I just didn't have a connection at the time. One of the two. If I had a connection or could use regular weed there's no way I'd be using that shit, it's not really all that much cheaper than real bud. And the highly unpredictable nature of it would make what little savings there were, not even worth it. I think it was like 20 for 1.5 grams and 40 or so for 3. So yeah not much savings really. 10 or so bucks on an 1/8th.
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Re: Synthetic cannibinoids [Re: Shroomslip]
#22100794 - 08/16/15 10:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I had experience with AM-2201. It was pretty nice in smaller doses.
I stopped using it when I smoked the shake at the bottom of the bag. I didn't think about how it likely had a higher amount of alkaloids, and ended up dosing wayyy too much.
I had to escape to my bedroom, where I threw myself onto my bed and dug my face into my pillow.
Upon meeting with my pillow, I realized I was sitting inside a very large yurt, in a big circle of alien medicine people. No two medicine men were of the same species. I seemed to be the only human there, though many of the species were humanoid in some regard. In the center of the yurt there was a seductive female version of Nataraja, but with six arms instead of four. None of the medicine men took any notice of me. The Nataraja-esque figure was performing some ritualized dance that seemed to capture their attention and offer some benefit for the medicine men. However, I was utterly confused as to what was going on.
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i tried jwh-018 when it first came out years back (2010) and then am-2201 later on that year one time. i initially had ordered a gram of the 018 but after smoking it several times gave it away to my friend. the time with am-2201 was in combination with mxe and 2ci. mostly, the experience was unpleasant. no freakouts or anything like that, but it really wasn't what i would describe as enjoyable. the time with the am-2201 was very unpleasant, but it passed and i didn't smoke any more.
way later on, i found a blend that i liked and bought some of that a handful of times (2012/13). no clue what was in it but it was more manageable and actually okay to smoke. i wasn't a heavy smoker though. i just stopped with them altogether. no addiction problems. i wouldn't smoke them again.
i've seen a friend's daughter get really cracked out from them and have heard of even worse cases, even them killing people now. i don't believe in the drug war, so making them schedule 1 and kicking in people's doors over them and locking people up for having them is silly, but i don't think they're safe and would advise anyone against using synthetic cannibinoids.
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Acaterpillar said: I had experience with AM-2201. It was pretty nice in smaller doses.
I stopped using it when I smoked the shake at the bottom of the bag. I didn't think about how it likely had a higher amount of alkaloids, and ended up dosing wayyy too much.
I had to escape to my bedroom, where I threw myself onto my bed and dug my face into my pillow.
Upon meeting with my pillow, I realized I was sitting inside a very large yurt, in a big circle of alien medicine people. No two medicine men were of the same species. I seemed to be the only human there, though many of the species were humanoid in some regard. In the center of the yurt there was a seductive female version of Nataraja, but with six arms instead of four. None of the medicine men took any notice of me. The Nataraja-esque figure was performing some ritualized dance that seemed to capture their attention and offer some benefit for the medicine men. However, I was utterly confused as to what was going on.
Well thats a fucking awesome story
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Re: Synthetic cannibinoids [Re: Moonshoe] 2
#22100975 - 08/16/15 11:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think you should get involved with synthetic cannabinoids, moonshoe.
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Moonshoe
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I think you should get involved with extreme homosexuality Burke Dennings


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Re: Synthetic cannibinoids [Re: Moonshoe] 1
#22101053 - 08/16/15 11:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was a junkie on the shit for about two years. I would sit in my room for hours, mindlessly scraping my pipe hoping with all my might that a crumb of resin would fall. I'd get a hit, lay down for five minutes to enjoy it, then repeat the process.
If I could get a ride off the mountain and in to town, I'd be on a hunt for all my legal-smokin' buddies to see if we could get enough for a couple bags and a ride to the next city over where they sold the stuff.
There were several places that sold the stuff. You could go to the headshop, and pay $20 for a gram in a glittery little bag. The headshop stuff tasted amazing, very fruity, and was usually a pretty good buzz, but it was just too expensive. A little ways down the road, there was a little gas-station called The Bama that we frequented.
The Bama was where you went if you really smoked legal. While the preppy kids were getting $20 grams from the headshop, the Mexicans at the Bama would serve ya up an eighth for $20. It was stronger than the headshop stuff, but didn't taste near as good.
They didn't just sell the stuff over the counter, though. You had to wait until the regular customers left, and they had to check you out, and blah blah blah. While it all seems a little sketch, the shit was always professional.
When they were out, or when they just wouldn't sell to you, you could occasionally get some home-made shit from this basehead that practically lived in the parkin' lot. The shit was called Stinger, and came in a ziplock back with a hornet sticker on it. Stinger was hardcore, but inconsistent. One hit wouldn't do shit, but the next would trip you out. We once found a piece of metal in a Stinger bag.
As far as the actual high, I called it "panic attack in a bag". I'd crave it and crave it, have a panic attack when I smoked it, then crave it some more. It was like the Crack version of weed.
So fucking intense.
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Burke Dennings
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Wait, why would you not buy the 20$ a gram stuff, but would pay 150$ for an eighth (3.5 grams)? You could've got over twice as much at 20$ per gram.
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Re: Synthetic cannibinoids [Re: Moonshoe]
#22101147 - 08/17/15 12:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Please do not smoke any cbd imitations please they are terrible. I dont know why you are interested in them? Just stick to alternative substances more safe with way less adverse affects those synthetics can cause please dont smoke any.
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