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OfflineTweexican
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Worst Trip
    #2208224 - 12/29/03 05:03 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

So a friend and I decided to trip late one night upon returning to campus from home one sunday night. We each ate about a quarter's worth of shrooms we figured since most of it was spores from the bottom of a bag. My friend has tripped a lot more than I have, but I on the other hand, have only tripped about 4 times. Anyways, it ended up being a disaster.

The trip came on pretty fast, since we decided to smoke a J right about a half hour after ingesting. It started out pretty fun since I went from taking a hit to seeing the grass melt into red flames, lets keep in mind I had never tripped this hard before. After they kicked in, we decided that we'd go inside and chill out in the room since it was cold as hell. Anyways, after getting inside, I felt this incredible tightness in the middle of my back. It was really uncomfortable, and the hard beating of my heart didnt help. As time passed (i have no idea how much exactly), i began to get concerned with how uncomfortable I was feeling. I started to get scared thinking for some reason I was going to have a heart attack. The beating of my heart became so intense that I decided to ask a friend to touch my chest and sure enough, his surprised/concerned look scared me even worse. I thought for sure I was going to die.

After a session of admittance to myself that if I was going to die, I realized I no longer had control over myself and began to drink about a half gallon of milk, since I've heard it brings down your trip.

For some reason, I only got visuals at the start of the trip, and lost them after the intense self-awareness about everything in my body. All I could focus on was the beating of my heart, and the thought of dying. No matter what I tried, I could not pull my attention away from it.

Sure enough about 5 hours later, my trip ended and I tried to sleep, but laid in bed instead, still thinking about death.

Has anyone ever had a trip like this off of shrooms alone?


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Re: Worst Trip [Re: Tweexican]
    #2208317 - 12/29/03 05:48 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe shrooms arent for you...if you didnt get visuals with a quarter...Even if you had other worries, spirals and stuff should have invaded your vision, attacking you...

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Re: Worst Trip [Re: Grapefruity]
    #2208348 - 12/29/03 06:06 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

I had tripped before, and it was mind blowing... totally spiritual. This time, I think I just got scared, not to mention I was really tired.

I DID have visuals in the beginning of the trip, and they came on hard, but then it all just turned bad.


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Re: Worst Trip [Re: Tweexican]
    #2209774 - 12/30/03 11:16 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)


You have to accept bad trips as part of the mushroom world. Eventualy, everyone has one. Setting and the people you hang with while tripping are major factors torwards your trip, and so is your own mind. Its never the best idea going into a trip expecting to have fun, with negative thoughts on your mind...unless you're looking to find answers, and want to deal with your problems head on.

Its all natural.
Try and learn from them.


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Re: Worst Trip [Re: Tweexican]
    #2209892 - 12/30/03 12:10 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

I often experience a sort of dying experience when shrooming. I find it helps to just relax and accept it and let it pass through you. If you fight it, it usually makes things worse. Usually, once the feeling passes, I move on and feel great for hours, but it can be tough. I suggest reading The Psychedelic Experience by Tim Leary. It explains alot about these sensations.

Also I find that I usually trip better if I prepare myself for a couple of days before hand by eating wholesome foods, drinking lots of water, and meditating. Spur of the moment trips can be fun, but sometimes I find myself feeling doubts if I don't prepare myself. Doubs can lead to bad thought loops. No fun!


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Re: Worst Trip [Re: Tweexican]
    #2210692 - 12/30/03 09:27 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

For some reason, I only got visuals at the start of the trip, and lost them after the intense self-awareness about everything in my body. All I could focus on was the beating of my heart, and the thought of dying. No matter what I tried, I could not pull my attention away from it.

you can't fight it like that. your heart is beating and you're thinking about death. what's so terrible about that? just go with the flow.

i was once lost, and tripping harder than i ever have in my life... driving.... totally lost on a cold, gray, november day in some terrible part of PA near reading. i drove around in a frenzy just trying to find a place to pull over and be left alone. the 3 hours of hardest tripping i've ever done were spent sitting in my car at some gas station off a busy road someplace near reading... there is a level of "bad trip" that i don't think many people even appreciate... full-on panic, complete insanity and paranoia.... a terrible cocktail of more adrenaline and psilocybin than should ever be in the system at one time.... that is a bad trip.

i know that "i'm going to die or go crazy before the end of this... something evil is on the way" feeling... yeah. the bad trip can be terrible. fortunately i've had only one, and it was caused by a very stupid decision to try to drive.

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Re: Worst Trip [Re: Tweexican]
    #2210768 - 12/30/03 10:10 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

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Tweexican said:
most of it was spores from the bottom of a bag.



I can't believe I'm the first person to pick this up. Those weren't spores in your bag you dag nam shroom noob!

I'm sorry, but I've been frustrated with this ever since a friend of mine asked me "What's the most potent part? The spores?" after I had explained to him before that spores contain no psilocybin or psilocyn, hence they're legal.


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Re: Worst Trip [Re: Tweexican]
    #2210836 - 12/30/03 10:50 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

In my very first shroom experience I had a similar occurence.

I became interested in everything I saw because I had never experienced a psychadelic before, that when I became aware of my body high I also became infatuated with it. The more I focused the worse it seemed to get. I started to think my heart was beating way faster than normal, this caused me to panic, I focused my thoughts then on how cold I was and that only amplified it.

After 5 minutes of this little panic attack I just took a deep breath, closed my eyes, smiled, and said to myself that it's normal for heart rate to increase (sober or not) and im no colder than I would normally be (sober or not). And bam, right away all the bad thoughts were gone.

I recommend this to anyone.


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Re: Worst Trip [Re: daft]
    #2210895 - 12/30/03 11:23 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Bad trips... I have had a few... two that almost killed me.... sent me to the hospital at least. I don't trip anymore unless I prepare thouroughly... for like a week. Meditation, reading, eating good, exercising. Flashbacks are the side of psychedelia that are unpleasent, but teach you just as much, if not more than good trips. I have found that fear is a slippery slope in the psychedelic experience. Never resist your feelings.... aka, cling to your ego. Loss of self is the most terrifying feeling in the world. For 3 years I wouldn't trip after my last bad trip, and I have only done so twice since. Both times, with the experience I have gained in subjective awareness, I was able to maintain mindfullness enough to allow the bad feelings to freely flow into great ones. Never underestimate your consciousness...


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Re: Worst Trip [Re: nicechrisman]
    #2210914 - 12/30/03 11:30 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

nicechrisman said:
I often experience a sort of dying experience when shrooming. I find it helps to just relax and accept it and let it pass through you. If you fight it, it usually makes things worse. Usually, once the feeling passes, I move on and feel great for hours, but it can be tough. I suggest reading The Psychedelic Experience by Tim Leary. It explains alot about these sensations.

Also I find that I usually trip better if I prepare myself for a couple of days before hand by eating wholesome foods, drinking lots of water, and meditating. Spur of the moment trips can be fun, but sometimes I find myself feeling doubts if I don't prepare myself. Doubs can lead to bad thought loops. No fun!




EXACTLY! it's "Spur of the moment trips" that mess things up. You have to prepare yourself because if it's at the spur of the moment you have doubts , and like he said doubts are what give you a bad trip


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Re: Worst Trip [Re: SlapnutRob]
    #2211205 - 12/31/03 03:55 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

SlapnutRob said:
Quote:

Tweexican said:
most of it was spores from the bottom of a bag. 



I can't believe I'm the first person to pick this up.  Those weren't spores in your bag you dag nam shroom noob!

I'm sorry, but I've been frustrated with this ever since a friend of mine asked me "What's the most potent part?  The spores?" after I had explained to him before that spores contain no psilocybin or psilocyn, hence they're legal.




Hahah don't worry I got that too. :wink:


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Re: Worst Trip [Re: Tweexican]
    #2213161 - 01/01/04 12:15 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I had a similar experience. It was absolutly terrible, search for my posts under was i poisoned. I never felt so ill in all my life, so I just lay there and accepting it, I had slight visuals that made me jump a bit. Normality returned after the trip obviously but I still felt a bit drained and scared (of shrooms) for 3 weeks after. It was not nice but have had much better trips recently. I think its best to properly prepare, relax, unwind and make sure your healthy and a bit of carbohydrates in your system I feel keeps you in a better mental frame of mind.


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Re: Worst Trip [Re: Tweexican]
    #2218164 - 01/04/04 09:35 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I ended up in hospital after thinking I was having a heart attack, it's really bad, terrifying. I had panic attacks about five times a day for almost an entire year after that, I really didn't cope well at all.
What I suggest is, don't trip for a while, and do some excercise, and eat well. When you're at a good level of fitness, then start tripping again. Whenever I start getting racing heart paranoia, I know that at least I'm at a good level of fitness, so I have a lot less to worry about.

I have had two situations in which I have thought I was dying and having a heart attack, and in both instances I have conciously tried to slow my heart rate down or tried to reassure myself I'd be alright. This doesn't work at all, so what I do now if I started getting a bit panicky is to start drawing or talk to someone, just do anything to take your mind off it.

And don't bottle it up if it's happening.. when it happens you can get paranoid that you'll put a downer on everyone elses trip if you tell them about it, but this just makes things worse for yourself.


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Re: Worst Trip [Re: Tweexican]
    #2218203 - 01/04/04 10:26 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Personally for me anyway,although i enjoy shrooms,they tend to bring out the darker side of mmy emotions,meaning they accent any sad feelings depression ect and very rarely the good.at least at higher end doses.Thats just me though.Acid for me is just the oppisote.I only shroom now with doses under a gram and a half or once and a while 2 grams spread out a little.I had several disturbing trips on shrooms in the last couple years and now im all about a mellow relaxing trip.i leave the intensity to others now,been there done that.


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Re: Worst Trip [Re: Tweexican]
    #2218226 - 01/04/04 10:42 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

never had bad one myself...........never gonna

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OfflineGrapefruity
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Re: Worst Trip [Re: ghostcook]
    #2218448 - 01/04/04 01:03 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

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ghostcook said:
never had bad one myself...........never gonna





Hah! Never say never!

Ghostcook where do you live???...says china in your loc but if you know a ? Captain Jean luc picard? well you must be in some kind of french nation or sometn , like me ;p

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Re: Worst Trip [Re: Tweexican]
    #2219952 - 01/05/04 05:18 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

damn you reminded me my 2 last trips.... which were both bad trips...like yours... death trips!
ALthough i knew that i shouldn't panic i just could not control it.... it was too strong for me!
These were the 2 worst nights of my life, this scary thought of dying was so shitty....
Even though i tried to find some good things of these trips and i did!

Unfortunately these trips effected me in a bad way for the next days/weeks maybe and months... i was thinking of them and get scared. Even now,almost 7 months later,i am still afraid to trip! (I havent tripped since then). But i know that i shouldn't, it was just an experience, nothing more!

When someone has a bad trip like this, i believe that he shoudlnt trip for a long time after and of course when he will trip he should go low dosing!

Happy shroomy year guys!

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Re: Worst Trip [Re: Tweexican]
    #2220757 - 01/05/04 02:25 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Tweexican said:
So a friend and I decided to trip late one night upon returning to campus from home one sunday night. We each ate about a quarter's worth of shrooms we figured since most of it was spores from the bottom of a bag. My friend has tripped a lot more than I have, but I on the other hand, have only tripped about 4 times. Anyways, it ended up being a disaster.

The trip came on pretty fast, since we decided to smoke a J right about a half hour after ingesting. It started out pretty fun since I went from taking a hit to seeing the grass melt into red flames, lets keep in mind I had never tripped this hard before. After they kicked in, we decided that we'd go inside and chill out in the room since it was cold as hell. Anyways, after getting inside, I felt this incredible tightness in the middle of my back. It was really uncomfortable, and the hard beating of my heart didnt help. As time passed (i have no idea how much exactly), i began to get concerned with how uncomfortable I was feeling. I started to get scared thinking for some reason I was going to have a heart attack. The beating of my heart became so intense that I decided to ask a friend to touch my chest and sure enough, his surprised/concerned look scared me even worse. I thought for sure I was going to die.

After a session of admittance to myself that if I was going to die, I realized I no longer had control over myself and began to drink about a half gallon of milk, since I've heard it brings down your trip.

For some reason, I only got visuals at the start of the trip, and lost them after the intense self-awareness about everything in my body. All I could focus on was the beating of my heart, and the thought of dying. No matter what I tried, I could not pull my attention away from it.

Sure enough about 5 hours later, my trip ended and I tried to sleep, but laid in bed instead, still thinking about death.

Has anyone ever had a trip like this off of shrooms alone?




I have had those trips where I felt I was dying. I had that sensation two weeks ago, but my past experiences told me I wasn't going to die.

Don't consider it a bad trip. Consider it a learning experience. You were, at least in your mind, at the brink of death. But here you are; you're ok. For me, it took some of the fear out of death.

During the peak of several of my trips, it was almost unbearable. But after the peak, it usually turned into something beautiful. The "mountain" experience and the "valley of the shadow of death" experience all in one trip. A trip imitating life.

More and more, I try not to have any expectations going into a trip. I just go with the flow.

I hope you join us again on that psychedelic plane. It's an amazing place.


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Re: Worst Trip [Re: Hamurabi]
    #2220809 - 01/05/04 02:41 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

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Hamurabi said:
damn you reminded me my 2 last trips.... which were both bad trips...like yours... death trips!
ALthough i knew that i shouldn't panic i just could not control it.... it was too strong for me!
These were the 2 worst nights of my life, this scary thought of dying was so shitty....
Even though i tried to find some good things of these trips and i did!

Unfortunately these trips effected me in a bad way for the next days/weeks maybe and months... i was thinking of them and get scared. Even now,almost 7 months later,i am still afraid to trip! (I havent tripped since then). But i know that i shouldn't, it was just an experience, nothing more!

When someone has a bad trip like this, i believe that he shoudlnt trip for a long time after and of course when he will trip he should go low dosing!

Happy shroomy year guys!




Hmmm...this just wasn't my experience. Those bad trips turned into good trips when I embraced them. They ended up being religous experiences, and I'll never regret them.

I didn't back off. I kept doing big doses for some time. I found God and took a 4 year hiatus from shrooms. I just recently started again. The trips aren't as good anymore. Something is wanting. I think that time several years ago was a special window into the "other" that I may never experience again.


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Re: Worst Trip [Re: catalyst777]
    #2221051 - 01/05/04 04:25 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

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More and more, I try not to have any expectations going into a trip. I just go with the flow.




Excellant advice. I try to do the same.

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