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elprawn
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Oyster mushrooms in Epping Forest
#22098820 - 08/16/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Amanita sp.

Hypoxylon sp. (Hypoxylon fragiforme?)


Not sure. Possible old Piptoporus betulinus

Ganoderma applanatum




Pleurotus ostreatus





Sorry for the inconsistent focus on some of the images.
We ate the oysters in a risotto. Not all of the ones we ate are in the pictures and we didn't eat all of the ones in the pictures. A good meal isn't necessarily the same as a good picture.
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mustangbob3
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Re: Oyster mushrooms in Epping Forest [Re: elprawn]
#22098849 - 08/16/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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We ate the oysters in a risotto. Not all of the ones we ate are in the pictures and we didn't eat all of the ones in the pictures. A good meal isn't necessarily the same as a good picture. 
in future leave them them mushrooms are protected and you cant even get a license to pick them in epping forest.
i guess you didnt know?
lots of woodlands are protected and we are having a big problem with migrant workers desimating the fungi populations as they dont know the local laws.
http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/green-spaces/epping-forest/visitor-information/Pages/Licences.aspx
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Please note that no licences will be issued for metal detecting or fungi picking in the Forest, which are not permitted.
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Please note that the fungi licence scheme for Epping Forest has been terminated. Please do not pick up fungi in the forest. Picking or removing anything from the forest is an offence under the Epping Forest byelaws (120 KB).
Licences are currently still granted for fungi research or organized educational fungi courses. Please contact Epping Forest on Tel 020 8532 1010 or epping.forest@cityoflondon.gov.uk to discuss your needs.
Licences will not be issued for personal or commercial consumption.
Please be aware that our Forest Keepers will be closely monitoring this situation.
Thank you for your co-operation in helping to preserve our valuable natural habitat for all.
sorry if i sound harsh but i hope you re-consider where you pick fungi in future, and be careful if you do it again as if you get caught you will get in trouble.
on another note, nice pics
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elprawn
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Re: Oyster mushrooms in Epping Forest [Re: mustangbob3]
#22098866 - 08/16/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was already aware of the by-laws. I'm sorry if it upsets you that I picked them anyway.
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Untitled
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Re: Oyster mushrooms in Epping Forest [Re: elprawn]
#22098868 - 08/16/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm sorry if it upsets you that I picked them anyway.
Lol
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elprawn
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Re: Oyster mushrooms in Epping Forest [Re: mustangbob3]
#22098885 - 08/16/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would like to say, however, that I understand the concerns about lots of people picking huge amounts with the view of selling them to restaurants. I don't have a problem with me picking a handful once or twice a year and putting them in my dinner, though.
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Bud Fuggins
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Re: Oyster mushrooms in Epping Forest [Re: Untitled]
#22098888 - 08/16/15 02:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nice; Oysters are so beautiful and have such a wonderful flavor. Though the ones I find are usually, utterly, infested with maggots; I often try to delouse them the best I can anyway.
The oysters in my signature line is probably the best pic I've taken of anything.
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mustangbob3
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Re: Oyster mushrooms in Epping Forest [Re: Untitled]
#22098912 - 08/16/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol no just thought give you heads up incase you didnt know
i gave you the advice its up too you what you do with it,
its natures bounty so i cant begrudge you it
tbh i would have been tempted too 
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I would like to say, however, that I understand the concerns about lots of people picking huge amounts with the view of selling them to restaurants. I don't have a problem with me picking a handful once or twice a year and putting them in my dinner, though.
yeah i get your position and i do agree somewhat. and you are right the problem is a new one that has took hold because people are eating more fungi now and restaurants pay alot of money for them and this has encouraged droves of people coming out of the cities and literally scalping wooded areas repeatedly purely for profit. this i dont agree with. if everyone only took what they needed ,as you do, there would be no bans or need for licenses ect and we would all be free to pick where we want
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Re: Oyster mushrooms in Epping Forest [Re: mustangbob3]
#22099022 - 08/16/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm guessing only a tiny percentage is actually salable as well (because they don't know what they are picking). So most just gets thrown away.
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elprawn
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Re: Oyster mushrooms in Epping Forest [Re: mustangbob3]
#22099056 - 08/16/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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mustangbob3 said: lol no just thought give you heads up incase you didnt know
i gave you the advice its up too you what you do with it,
its natures bounty so i cant begrudge you it:)
tbh i would have been tempted too 
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I would like to say, however, that I understand the concerns about lots of people picking huge amounts with the view of selling them to restaurants. I don't have a problem with me picking a handful once or twice a year and putting them in my dinner, though.
yeah i get your position and i do agree somewhat. and you are right the problem is a new one that has took hold because people are eating more fungi now and restaurants pay alot of money for them and this has encouraged droves of people coming out of the cities and literally scalping wooded areas repeatedly purely for profit. this i dont agree with. if everyone only took what they needed ,as you do, there would be no bans or need for licenses ect and we would all be free to pick where we want
No worries mate, I understand.
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Bud Fuggins
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Re: Oyster mushrooms in Epping Forest [Re: Untitled]
#22099059 - 08/16/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Another thing that worries me about oysters is the anise smell; this is usually assocuiated with a benzene ring one of the most carcinogenic molecular structures.
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elprawn
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Re: Oyster mushrooms in Epping Forest [Re: Untitled]
#22099062 - 08/16/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Untitled said: I'm guessing only a tiny percentage is actually salable as well (because they don't know what they are picking). So most just gets thrown away.
Probably, yes. The ones in the best condition were the younger specimens, which I suppose is understandable. Less exposure to the elements, slugs etc.
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elprawn
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Re: Oyster mushrooms in Epping Forest [Re: Bud Fuggins]
#22099069 - 08/16/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bud Fuggins said: Another thing that worries me about oysters is the anise smell; this is usually assocuiated with a benzene ring one of the most carcinogenic molecular structures.
I've read about their association with cholesterol reduction (they contain Lovastatin), but I've not heard about any studies linking them with cancer.
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Re: Oyster mushrooms in Epping Forest [Re: elprawn]
#22099151 - 08/16/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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elprawn said:
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Bud Fuggins said: Another thing that worries me about oysters is the anise smell; this is usually assocuiated with a benzene ring one of the most carcinogenic molecular structures.
I've read about their association with cholesterol reduction (they contain Lovastatin), but I've not heard about any studies linking them with cancer.
I've only found tangential relationships and would love to hear the opinions of a more scientific mind.
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The Oyster Mushroom has the scent of anise because it has benzaldehyde. Benzaldehyde is an organic compound which is widely sought for industrial use.
per: http://www.medicalmushrooms.net/pleurotus-ostreatus-oyster-mushroom/
Benzaldehyde (C6H5CHO) is an organic compound consisting of a benzene ring with a formyl substituent. It is the simplest aromatic aldehyde and one of the most industrially useful. This colorless liquid has a characteristic pleasant almond-like odor. Per: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzaldehyde
From same wikipedia: Benzene increases the risk of cancer and other illnesses. Benzene is a notorious cause of bone marrow failure. Substantial quantities of epidemiologic, clinical, and laboratory data link benzene to aplastic anemia, acute leukemia, and bone marrow abnormalities.[53][54] The specific hematologic malignancies that benzene is associated with include: acute myeloid leukemia (AML), aplastic anemia, myelodysplastic syndrome (MDS), acute lymphoblastic leukemia (ALL), and chronic myeloid leukemia (CML).[55] The American Petroleum Institute (API) stated in 1948 that "it is generally considered that the only absolutely safe concentration for benzene is zero."[56] The US Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) classifies benzene as a human carcinogen. Long-term exposure to excessive levels of benzene in the air causes leukemia, a potentially fatal cancer of the blood-forming organs. In particular, Acute myeloid leukemia or acute nonlymphocytic leukemia (AML & ANLL) is not disputed to be caused by benzene.[57] IARC rated benzene as "known to be carcinogenic to humans" (Group 1). Because benzene is ubiquitous in gasoline and hydrocarbon fuels are in use everywhere, human exposure to benzene is a global health problem. Benzene targets liver, kidney, lung, heart and the brain and can cause DNA strand breaks, chromosomal damage, etc. Benzene causes cancer in animals including humans. Benzene has been shown to cause cancer in both sexes of multiple species of laboratory animals exposed via various routes.[58][59]
So the benzene in Oysters may be trivial compared to driving out to the woods to collect them, I don't know. I am interested to know more though.
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