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#22097263 - 08/16/15 01:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well, the unthinkable has happened. Small fire occurred, fire department responded, found my set up. They called the police. Police called in "testers". It was an obscene and excessive afair that surprisingly did not end with my arrest. My question is, why? And how long should I expect to wait before being charged? They took a lot of stuff. Jars of myc,iso, lights, rye an active grow (not yet fruiting), brand new PE syringes, dehydrator, empty buckets and jars with remnants in them. I know the spores aren't illegal, but the syringe was sitting on top of a grain jar next to 13 others ready to be inoculated and they have all of that active myc, which is illegal, correct? They also took my pressure cookers, verm, gypsum, and about 3k in cash as well as hundreds of dollars worth of my personal property that obviously had no relevance, such as my more expensive vaping pieces and e juices. I am trying to get a good lawyer, but I have no money, so, ya know. But yeah I can't for the life of me understand why I haven't been charged yet and the uncertainty is killing me. Is it because they want to finish testing everything first? The lawyer I spoke with said every psychedelic-related case he's won has been due to his ability to prove testing was unreliable or inadequate. Just looking for any fringe of hope.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
#22097280 - 08/16/15 01:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Mushroom Cultivation.
Reason: better suited here, sorry man that sucks balls
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: cronicr]
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What was the dialogue between you and the fuzz? Did you incriminate yourself? Hit enlils ask an attorney thread and get his take on it.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Matt87]
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I maintained that I grow legal edibles. They did find probably like an oz or two of old, dried mushrooms though. Even though they said they found "ten bags", which either isn't true or a bunch of them just had shake in them or something. Strangely enough, they left an eighth of that and a gram of weed behind. They went into my closet to find the grow well before they had a warrant, so I hope that works in my favor somehow.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
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CitizenErased said: I maintained that I grow legal edibles. They did find probably like an oz or two of old, dried mushrooms though. Even though they said they found "ten bags", which either isn't true or a bunch of them just had shake in them or something. Strangely enough, they left an eighth of that and a gram of weed behind. They went into my closet to find the grow well before they had a warrant, so I hope that works in my favor somehow.
I strongly recommend consulting with a lawyer (in person). It's best to get yourself prepared so you know your options. No one on here is going to be able to tell you specifics on your legal situation since the laws vary so much from state to state, although enlil might be able to enlighten you a bit I still think it would be best to consult a lawyer in person. I wish you luck.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Dr.Satan]
#22097564 - 08/16/15 04:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The only thing I would be concerned about is the jars of colonized spawn and tubs/cakes that hadn't fruited yet. If you get very lucky, the police could store the stuff wrong and it won't be suitable for testing when that time comes. I've seen it happen before. If you are charged it will likely be weeks or even longer, so they can prove you even did any wrongdoing. But they don't need a warrant if there's a fire. As for the mail, not sure if they had reason to do that. But good luck arguing the cops opened your mail in court if it came to that
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Buck513]
#22098103 - 08/16/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Be sure to let them know that you won't be participating in "fill the boot" from now on.
Quick question, who called the fire department? A resident of your home, or someone else?
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Srirachi]
#22098595 - 08/16/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Were you home during the whole event? (firefighters coming then the cops being called)
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: 2shoes] 1
#22098623 - 08/16/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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May I ask how the fire started, or could have started?
Looking to NEVER make a mistake that would cause a fire to start when I start back up my green house.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: shroomyaxn]
#22099060 - 08/16/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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shroomyaxn said: May I ask how the fire started, or could have started?
Looking to NEVER make a mistake that would cause a fire to start when I start back up my green house.
You can't prevent acts of God
Sometimes shit just happens
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Buck513]
#22100073 - 08/16/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Buck513 said: The only thing I would be concerned about is the jars of colonized spawn and tubs/cakes that hadn't fruited yet. If you get very lucky, the police could store the stuff wrong and it won't be suitable for testing when that time comes. I've seen it happen before. If you are charged it will likely be weeks or even longer, so they can prove you even did any wrongdoing. But they don't need a warrant if there's a fire. As for the mail, not sure if they had reason to do that. But good luck arguing the cops opened your mail in court if it came to that
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Buck513 said: The only thing I would be concerned about is the jars of colonized spawn and tubs/cakes that hadn't fruited yet. If you get very lucky, the police could store the stuff wrong and it won't be suitable for testing when that time comes. I've seen it happen before. If you are charged it will likely be weeks or even longer, so they can prove you even did any wrongdoing. But they don't need a warrant if there's a fire. As for the mail, not sure if they had reason to do that. But good luck arguing the cops opened your mail in court if it came to that
Well they do have some dried fruits, so there will be at least a possessions charge. The fire department didn't go into my closet though. The police did, without a warrant or consent. Nowhere near where the fire happened.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Srirachi]
#22100077 - 08/16/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I called, unfortunately. I didn't see a choice. I was panicked.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: shroomyaxn]
#22100085 - 08/16/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alcohol lamp accident. Took some stupid advice on drilling a second hole. If i'd have thought about it for two seconds, I'd have realized that doesn't make sense. But I was extremely tired and not thinking correctly. I drilled the second hole, lit it, and it immediately exploded. I know, I'm an idiot. I would do anything to go back to that moment and use my head, obviously.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: 2shoes]
#22100096 - 08/16/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was until several hours later, but I eventually left after finding I was free to. I hadn't slept in days. Couldn't go into my place anyway. Was just sitting outside for 6 hours. Decided to go and be with my girlfriend until they left.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
#22100958 - 08/16/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Next time edit your posts.
Are the dried fruits what was left in open air for a long time of whatever? Fruits lose potency extremely fast while left in open air, so I don't know if they'll even be able to prove they are psychedelic mushrooms through testing.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Buck513]
#22101140 - 08/17/15 12:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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They weren't left totally out in the open, but they were neglected. Old and in bags that weren't vacuum sealed. They were soft and chewy.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
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CitizenErased said: Alcohol lamp accident. Took some stupid advice on drilling a second hole. If i'd have thought about it for two seconds, I'd have realized that doesn't make sense. But I was extremely tired and not thinking correctly. I drilled the second hole, lit it, and it immediately exploded. I know, I'm an idiot. I would do anything to go back to that moment and use my head, obviously.
You're losing me, what do you mean by second hole? It blew up big enough you called the fire dept. instead of just running to the kitchen for some pots of water or something? Were you sober?
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Amanita86]
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CitizenErased said: Alcohol lamp accident. Took some stupid advice on drilling a second hole. If i'd have thought about it for two seconds, I'd have realized that doesn't make sense. But I was extremely tired and not thinking correctly. I drilled the second hole, lit it, and it immediately exploded. I know, I'm an idiot. I would do anything to go back to that moment and use my head, obviously.
You're losing me, what do you mean by second hole? It blew up big enough you called the fire dept. instead of just running to the kitchen for some pots of water or something? Were you sober?
I keep a fire extinguisher in my house as do the majority of people I would think a small fire like that would be simple to manage. And yea why did you think drilling a hole in your alcohol lamp was a good idea? Like what did you intend to gain by doing that?
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Dr.Satan]
#22105169 - 08/18/15 01:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't know. I read that it would equalize the pressure within the lamp or something. But, of course, it just introduced oxygen where it shouldn't be. And yeah, it blew it up, man. Half of my bathroom instantly caught fire and there were aerosol cans everywhere. I didn't have a lot of time to think. I'm not the only one in the building and some of the people are old. Calling was just a panic reaction. I did attempt to put it out at the same time, and I did, while I was still on the phone. But they came anyway. It all happened very fast. I was sober, but had not slept in a long time. I have a lot of problems sleeping.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Buck513]
#22105702 - 08/18/15 08:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Buck513 said: Are the dried fruits what was left in open air for a long time of whatever? Fruits lose potency extremely fast while left in open air, so I don't know if they'll even be able to prove they are psychedelic mushrooms through testing.
What about cubensis spawn? Can the spawn be proven to be psychedelic mushrooms through tests done at a local law enforcement office or where ever they send it?
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: shroomyaxn]
#22144395 - 08/26/15 02:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Maybe this is wishful thinking, but the police really seem like they're reaching here. They call me frequently and ask me to come in and "walk them through things". They always speak in a context that implies I've admitted guilt, and I always promptly remind them that I have not. I've told them politely that I won't be speaking with them again until I have a lawyer. This seems to have really gotten under their skin. They keep saying things like "you know as well as I do that you're guilty. Come in and work with us and we might be able to help you out, but after the lab results come back, there won't be anything to talk about. I hope you understand the severity of these charges" (Even though there currently are no charges.) They're also throwing out ridiculous ideas about my using vaporizers (for nicotine) in some way that they can incorporate into a charge. I just think it's really strange that I've not been detained and that the lab results take an entire month to come back. Unfortunately, I still don't have money for a lawyer. I guess I'll call the public defender's office tomorrow.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
#22144665 - 08/26/15 06:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It sounds like they're harassing you.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
#22144992 - 08/26/15 08:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Right but I'm wondering if it's because their case is much weaker than they'd like me to believe.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
#22145475 - 08/26/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's not unheard of for a department with a limited budget to refuse to pay for testing of evidence involved in an insignificant crime. Possibly the officer has been told they aren't testing it, and to try to get you to confess.
Also, remember that the police cannot make deals. The prosecutor would be the one offering you a deal, IF they had enough to get the prosecutor to file charges.
It just really sucks that during all the chaos of the fire, with all the people coming and going, your door standing wide open for so long, and you talking to firemen in rooms you couldn't see your front door from, that you didn't see who came in and lost their bag of mushrooms.
Also, you might want to consider GETTING THE MONEY FOR A LAWYER. FFS, get a job, second job, whatever you need to do. Your freedom is worth it.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Srirachi]
#22145923 - 08/26/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Damn man that sucks. I hope everything works out for you. I wouldn't have talked to the police at all. At least they didn't bring in the hazmat team and make a big scene like you were endangering the entire neighborhood and put your face on the 5 o'clock news like they do most people when they find shroom grows.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
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CitizenErased said: Right but I'm wondering if it's because their case is much weaker than they'd like me to believe.
Right now, it's weak. Once the testing comes back, it won't be. They just want to close the file with a confession.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Enlil]
#22148416 - 08/26/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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If the police call you like that, they have nothing. If they had something on you would be arrested or waiting for a citation/summons, etc. I've had it happen before, just ignore the calls from now on.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: theonlysun81]
#22149552 - 08/26/15 11:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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They did bring in hazmat guys, actually. No news coverage yet though.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Srirachi]
#22149707 - 08/27/15 01:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Don't really have time for that, unfortunately. The lab results are expected back in another two weeks. I am trying everything I can, but it's just not really realistic. I'd need around $10,000.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
#22149709 - 08/27/15 01:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil, what is your take on my not being arrested, despite dried fruits being found on the scene? Is this common?
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
#22150021 - 08/27/15 06:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'll bet when you're sitting in a cell you'll be able to think of all sorts of ways you could have tried.
I'm not trying to be an ass but sometimes things like this are so overwhelming that you wind up in a daze, and looking back you're like "wtf was I thinking..." and really, you weren't thinking. You were in shock.
Don't decide it's impossible. Try. Hard. Like your freedom depends on it, because it probably does.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
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CitizenErased said: Enlil, what is your take on my not being arrested, despite dried fruits being found on the scene? Is this common?
It's not uncommon for them to wait until the tests come back. If they had arrested you, they'd have to give you a Gerstein hearing, and you might very well walk right there. They just wait until they have enough to bind you over, and they do it then.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Srirachi]
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I appreciate what you're saying, but it is impossible. I can't possibly make 10,000 in two weeks. My only hope for even a few grand is to sell everything I have and I still won't come close. No credit, so no loan. And no one I know could lend me that kind of money. Trust me, all I do all day every day is try to find money. Spending all of the precious time I have left working a minimum wage job wouldn't helpanything, and I wouldn't even get hired in time anyway. I need a faster solution, or just to accept that these lunatics fucked me good and learn to live with it.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Dr.Satan]
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Dr.Satan said: I strongly recommend consulting with a lawyer (in person). It's best to get yourself prepared so you know your options. No one on here is going to be able to tell you specifics on your legal situation since the laws vary so much from state to state, although enlil might be able to enlighten you a bit I still think it would be best to consult a lawyer in person. I wish you luck.
^^^ this. by far
Also, www.law.cornell.edu is a great resource
I don't think mycelium is illegal in ALL states but I could be wrong.
Hell, Forida mushrooms were legal a while ago unless dried.
You should definitely read up on local law on search and seizure (probable cause?), not talk to any cops and get a lawyer right away if you can afford it. EDIT: oh, and drug/conspiracy crap if it makes you feel better. There was no trafficking charge for shrooms in MA when I got caught.
You haven't even gotten a summons yet, right?
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: micro]
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I have talked to several lawyers, three in person. Doesn't do me too much good when I can't hire them and there aren't any charges yet. There are too many variables.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
#22172789 - 09/01/15 07:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The best I can hope for regarding their shady ass search procedures is to file a motion to suppress certain evidence, as I understand it. But I mean really it's just their word against mine.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
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hmmm. As far as the search. Based on what they found before going into the closet they may be able to say they were concerned you would destroy any other evidence before they returned with a warrant.
As far as talking to you...ya don't say a word. The less you give them the better. They are not your friends and definitely aren't trying to work with you. They're just trying to make their job/pros easier during court. I think you can get a public defender after they arrest you at your arraignment. They didn't arrest you that night because they didn't have the results. I'm sorry you're in this situation but I would expect the lab to come back with results from the shrooms you had.
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Ha. Oh, I know they're not my friends. I wouldn't give a fuck if every one of these evil shitbags dropped dead today. I don't care what anyone says. There may be exceptions, but a lifetime of experience has shown me they are rare, to say the least.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
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From the sounds of it, until you know what you're being charged with, youre kind of stuck.
The worrying part for me is if they do end up charging you, are you going to be arraigned and have to wait or a bail hearing? I'm from Canada and don't know exactly how things work there.
Do you have any family who can help you out with some money to hire a lawyer? My lawyer has always been good in letting me pay in installments.
Hope everything works out OK man. Keep your head up. Things will get better.
I've been in worse situations but I was a youth and live in Canada and thankfully got off on probation. (1lb weed, 1lb shrooms, active grow, 20 grams molly)
It may be better to wait until you find out what charges (if any) you're getting, and then consult with a few more lawyers before you find the right one.
I consulted with several and ended up going with the cheapest one (and now the person I call when I need something) who got me off with no jail time, despite my circumstances, because I had no priors.
Good luck in your endeavors fellow shroomerite
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: sh4d0ws]
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Yeah, I'll be in custody until there's a sentencing. There will definitely be some charges. I've actually managed to get my legal fees covered thankfully. Friend from out of state who is well off got wind and offered to help. I have to be out of my apartment in two weeks though. If they don't detain me by then, I have no idea where I'll go. Like I said, they stole all of my god damn money.
They would have crucified you here for a stash like that. Most of our drug laws are notoriously excessive and they take full advantage whenever they can. There was a guy here who did over 30 years for 1 gram of coke. That's not common, but you know, still.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
#22243202 - 09/15/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I saw you hadn't posted in like 8 days and wondered if you had been arrested. Any change in status of the case?
I'm glad you got legal help. You didn't give up trying and it happened. You've got a hell of a friend there. Still hoping they never get the funding to test your stuff. I read that there's like half a million rape kits that have yet to be tested in America, some so old the Statute of Limitations has likely expired in many of the cases. If they can't come up with the flow to test a rape kit, for the love of sanity I hope there isn't a single dollar available to investigate victimless crimes.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Srirachi]
#22243243 - 09/15/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh, no, they just don't care about rape because it doesn't make them nearly as much money to prosecute. Correction: The man in question was actually in prison for over 37 years. There was another guy out of Baltimore who got 20 years back in 2011 for 6 grams of weed. They don't give a shit. They are a bunch of sadistic dogs without leashes.
But yeah, that would be pretty amazing. Not counting on it though. And no, still waiting on the lab I guess. Who knows what kind of trumped up bullshit they're trying to come up with in the mean time.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
#22265962 - 09/20/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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When I got arrested I sat in jail for a while, I was offered in patient treatment pre-trial which I took to get out of the cell. In the end I'm glad I did, it helped get me a lower sentence, plus I was out before I was sentenced and got to enjoy the limited freedom they allow while on pre-trial probation.
Being caught in the (un)justice system is no picnic, especially when it's for something like drugs, something that should never get anyone put behind bars. I'm grateful only four years of my life were taken, the government didn't have much of a case. If I was able to afford a lawyer instead of having a public defender I may have gotten less time. What really would have gotten me less time, that would have been following the rules to a T.
I pissed dirty while I was in a halfway house... I pissed dirty for a substance that wasn't even controlled at the time here. I along with at least half of the halfway house smoked spice while I was there. Some twat ratted us all out and they cleaned house.
If I hadn't pissed dirty I was looking good for getting 5yr probation instead of jail time. IMO probation is way harder than jail time if yur an addict, I and way too many I've known, have done more time for fucking up on probation than our sentences were for.
I wish you the best, take care, follow the rules, and don't stop advocating for yourself. No one is going to do those things for you and they are the best things you can do. Oh, and if it comes down to it, unless its a really good one, never take the first plea. My first offer was 5yr prison and 5yr probation, that was in 2010, I've been a free man for almost a year now, if I'd have taken the first plea I'd still be in Ft. Dix, NJ federal prison
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: luckytriple6]
#22266261 - 09/20/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Damn. A few days is terrible. I couldn't imagine four years.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: luckytriple6]
#22276579 - 09/22/15 09:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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luckytriple6 said: What really would have gotten me less time, that would have been following the rules to a T.
Damn, this is so real right now. I am about to get back into growing only only edibles. I couldn't image trying to grow some Cubensis in between some trays.
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luckytriple6 said: Ft. Dix, NJ federal prison
Speaking of Fort. Dix NJ. read this. this video is worth the watch too.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
#22279132 - 09/23/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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woah woah woah! I read on here a second hole keeps negative pressure from causing an issue! I guess I should throw that diy lamp of mine out... What kind of lamp were you using? just used mine and I guess im lucky that something didnt happen... Sorry this has happened to you btw, hope it turns out well for you
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: funguy64]
#22282169 - 09/24/15 05:16 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, that's what I read too. And I'm more than regretful that I listened. It was just a small, round mason jar with a cotton wick. I dunno. I'm thinking more and more about taking the money I got for my lawyer and bailing. I have a friend on the other side of the country. Plus thanks to these dickheads I'll be homeless in a few days. They took all of my money, what else can I really do anyway? There aren't any charges yet, so how much trouble can I really get in for leaving if there aren't any charges?
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: shroomyaxn]
#22287692 - 09/25/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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luckytriple6 said: What really would have gotten me less time, that would have been following the rules to a T.
Damn, this is so real right now. I am about to get back into growing only only edibles. I couldn't image trying to grow some Cubensis in between some trays.
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luckytriple6 said: Ft. Dix, NJ federal prison
Speaking of Fort. Dix NJ. read this. this video is worth the watch too.
I read that whole article, I still don't know what to think... I've heard of those brothers before but never read such an in-depth article on them. Going through what I've gone through is nothing compared to what they have endured. I only had to spend a few nights in solitary confinement, most of those were due to being transferred to a different county jail and being stuck waiting to see the jail doctor before I could be released into the communal areas, though once I was forced to protect myself and sat in solitary(for one night) till they figured out I didn't start the fight, that I just ended it...
I know what it's like to go to jail because two scumbags worked with the police to put you there... At the same time, I had committed the crime. Yet, if it wasn't for the people working with the police and against me my case would have been thrown out due to lack of evidence. My case was thrown out in the state and picked up by the feds, I was then charged with conspiracy to manufacture a schedule 2(meth) controlled substance.
When I was arrested all I was in position of was glassware and residue, the residue wasn't necessarily on the glassware either... The only actual drugs, if you could even call them that, were a few P. cube pins on a casing that had went bad(trich) that I was to bury out in the woods the day I was arrested. The damning evidence was at the house of the kids that worked with the police, two known criminal drug addicts that would say anything to save there own asses. They were in position of a mixture and substance containing methamphetamine, post reaction fluid they were supposed to toss into a dumpster on the way to work in the city...
In my case the kids were turned informant, this was dome by the feds when they realized they had nothing on me. The cops made these threats that they were going to rip the drywall off the walls of my parents house looking for evidence... I never knew I could get caught up in a conspiracy, I thought that was only for mob bosses and terrorists... I made the mistake of telling the cops that everything I had was in the room they found me in and saying a long time ago I had cooked meth but that I didn't do it anymore, that was enough evidence for conspiracy charges...
My own word against myself trying to save my parents house from being destroyed, and the word of two known criminals and drug addicts... I was clean before that, nothing but a few minor traffic violations... All that said, it doesn't seem like the brothers from the article posted deserved to be dragged into the terrorism charges, but who knows, we will never know what was said in private. The fact that the informants spoke out trying to say that these brothers weren't actually terrorists speaks volumes, but at the same time they had the power to stop this from happening the whole time, they were motivated by greed, the same thing I was motivated by.
In my own defense, I would never have cooked meth or worked with the two shitbags turned informant had I not been homeless and out of money. I had thought about cooking meth many times and had started to make pure ingredients for a RP/I2/E hcl reaction. I had all the glassware needed from other projects such as making high purity alcohol and extracting dmt and mescaline from bark and cactus...
Those brothers probably shouldn't have even gone away for the weapons bought, they were completely setup, that shit ain't right... But neither is illegally purchasing firearms. Since I'm now a felon, if I get caught holding a gun I can be put away for up to 10 years. I met a man when I was at Ft. Dix who had a felony when he was young, he was there because he was caught by a game warden with a gun in his hands. He was out with a friend(the gun owner) and his son(a young child) duck hunting, he got 10 years of his life taken for duck hunting... I will never hold a gun for the rest of my life, I used to love shooting trap and targets...
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: luckytriple6]
#22288216 - 09/25/15 12:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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My heart goes out to you man(you as well luckytriple6). This is such a fucked up society where armed bureaucracies will put people in cages for growing plants that have been used for thousands of years as sacraments. Fucking horrible.
If they haven't told you to leave town I don't see why you shouldn't other than that it makes you look guilty. I also don't know if they'd be able to pursue the issue across state lines. If you do decide to bounce I would give your friend his money back though. I'd try to find someone knowledgeable and ask them in a discreet fashion about leaving before you do though.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Bearlaser]
#22301335 - 09/28/15 03:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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If I were to get arrested out of state, they would find out, and I could be extradited. But how likely either of those things is is another story. I still haven't heard back from the police. No idea what's taking so long,
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
#22301501 - 09/28/15 06:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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CitizenErased said: If I were to get arrested out of state, they would find out, and I could be extradited. But how likely either of those things is is another story. I still haven't heard back from the police. No idea what's taking so long,
Thanks for keeping us posted. Mabey they think the fire was bad enough. Drunk drivers get off the hook for dui when they crash sometimes
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
#22303543 - 09/28/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes, thanks for keeping us posted. This whole situation sucks, but I still hold out hope that they can't get a good test result or can't fund the test in the first place. If you don't have any assets for forfeiture, and it sounds like you don't - you just never know.
I still say that the cops trying to get you to self-incriminate is a good sign. You know they aren't trying to help YOU. If they had everything they needed they'd just come and get you.
Still, if you have no ties in your state, I'd bail. Yes, you could be extradited, but anything you can do to add layers of complexity to your state arresting you reduces the likelihood of you going to jail.
Please keep us posted and good luck on your housing situation.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) *DELETED* [Re: Srirachi]
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Wotko]
#22370052 - 10/12/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Did you read the whole thread?
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: 2shoes]
#22370294 - 10/12/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sure didn't I was in a hurry to get out off the house. Thanks for callin' me out man. Lol. I deleted the post.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Wotko]
#22380498 - 10/14/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, still here. Don't ask me why. The suspense is brutal though. Hard to get anything done really. I've since taken to mixing e juice to pass the time. Anybody wants a free sample, just let me know! Even working on trying to get a business license. Of course, who knows how that'll play out if I end up with a felony...
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
#22380602 - 10/14/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Glad you're kicking!
I think it could work in your favor to have a business if this thing ever gets to sentencing - I'm still hopeful that they were unable to fund testing!
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Srirachi]
#22381639 - 10/15/15 12:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not sure if this was mentioned but myc alone (afaik) does not have active alkaloids and is technically not illegal. Alkaloids are formed after fruit bodies are formed so unless they fruit, your legal. I would just assume the tests will come back negative and they won't be able to make a case.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
#22382273 - 10/15/15 07:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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CitizenErased said: Well, still here. Don't ask me why. The suspense is brutal though. Hard to get anything done really. I've since taken to mixing e juice to pass the time. Anybody wants a free sample, just let me know! Even working on trying to get a business license. Of course, who knows how that'll play out if I end up with a felony...
any time a cop calls you and asks you to do their job for them you're good.
I had this happen one time when my dealer got arrested and I guess my first name and phone number was in his ledger. I got a phone call phishing for my last name and telling me to bring my product and money to the station. Fuck that, I learned to stop answering calls from no name numbers. If it's important they'll leave a message
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: theonlysun81]
#22383054 - 10/15/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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 When I was in high school, I got in a fight at this large party. I pulled a gun (not threatening) held it pointed at the ground telling him to back off and walked back toward my car and jetted. Next day I got a call from the PD asking if I would come down to talk to them about the incident. Called my lawyer who told me anytime they ask you to go talk to them you don't have to. I think people trust police too much and figure if they're cooperative and nice to them they won't get pinched.
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I,m pretty sure if u don't get arrested and charged initially and even if there is eventually an arrest warrant if your able to avoid that warrant for a year the warrant expires maybe the lawyer on here knows for sure some people for drug warrants move to the virgin islands or guam to avoid warrants territories usually won't send u back for drugs
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: 5150]
#22409507 - 10/20/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Unfortunately, from what I've read, that isn't true of felony warrants.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: 5150]
#22411259 - 10/20/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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5150 said: I,m pretty sure if u don't get arrested and charged initially and even if there is eventually an arrest warrant if your able to avoid that warrant for a year the warrant expires maybe the lawyer on here knows for sure some people for drug warrants move to the virgin islands or guam to avoid warrants territories usually won't send u back for drugs
Warrants never expire - the statue of limitations only applies if they have not charged you yet. They might send you back and they might not, depends on where you are and what kind of mood they are in and what you did.
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I agree they were just phishing. Its true if they had something they would have acted on it. It wouldnt take weeks for the test. They werent prepared to take this case on.
Cakes do contain actives.
They took these over a month ago? Kind of changes the evidence huh.
I'd wait till you were charged and get a public defender. Its true though you can get consulted and basically shop around. Explain how it went down and they should have a strategy to explain to you for free.
This can give you peace of mind and also help the public defender.
They will basically set bail to take enough money away that you can not run, but be able to live. Plus you havent run yet so it should be easy to prove your not a flight risk.
If it was me I would get a lawyer so you can get your stuff back mostly your possessions and money. They gave you a recite right?
I would shop around more if they are asking for a $10k retainer. You could probably do most of this yourself in writing. In fact a consultation with a lawyer would basically give you the blue print.
They cant just hold your stuff indefinitely without a charge.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: DrCrumbs]
#22418930 - 10/22/15 03:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have a lawyer. According to him and other lawyers, it can take several months for the DA to approve a warrant. This happened two months ago. They said the results would take a month to return.Getting my possessions back is very unlikely. It would require another case altogether, which I don't have money for, and would likely lose regardless. The only way I'll get it back is if there are decidedly no charges.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
#22425575 - 10/24/15 01:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Seems like they don't have any evidence. I wish you the best and keep us posted. Stay out of trouble in the meantime for sure.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: loco801]
#22451954 - 10/30/15 01:07 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have to turn myself in next week.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: refried]
#22452226 - 10/30/15 04:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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CitenErased said: I have to turn myself in next week.
They had to catalog all the evidence, send it to a lab, and then present it to a grand jury to file the proper charges against you that will stick.
In my state when you get caught with a non violent felony offense you get charged and released, then around 10 weeks or so pass and they come with the warrant and unseal the indictment. Then they actually book you based on the charges the grand jury decided you were guilty of.
You'll turn yourself in and chances are they won't hold you on bond ( in my state they wouldn't ) they'd let you out on a signature bond with rules and a court date......or they could keep you in county until your arraignment, but chances are with an attorney already and you turning yourself in, I would so it taking a few hours til you return home.....but maybe with an ankle bracelet....
Your lawyer will get a motion of discovery with all the evidence compiled against you, and determine if there's any fuck ups, or ways to get you through a jury of your peers and win. Look that motion of discovery over yourself and do a little research on your states laws, you may find something to help him help you.....but generally lawyers hate that shit and just want you to suck it up and let them do their job.
I wish you the best. I know what it's like. Just stay strong and remember you are a victim, fuck them.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: vandago]
#22452422 - 10/30/15 06:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Damon CE. I really hope you just end up with fines.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Matt87]
#22486941 - 11/06/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Got a call from my lawyer this morning about two hours before I was supposed to meet him at the District Court. Asked if I could do it next week instead...said the offcer in charge of my investigation was tied up with something else. Also said that they would likely lessen the bail amount as a result. Not sure why, but that's what he said.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
#22487923 - 11/06/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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It sucks you have to go through all of this. There are real criminals out there right now hurting people but you have to be put through the judicial wringer for hurting nobody. Hopefully, you just get a slap on the wrist. When are we ever going to stop this asinine "war on drugs"?
You've taught me a lesson though. I will now be keeping a fire extinguisher close by when using my alcohol lamp.
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Any news man?
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I got popped with a lab once. What they are waiting for is to test everything to see what illegal substances that you actually have. So in for example they are testing the Myc jars for psilocin or psilocybin or both depending on what the statutes in your state actually say. Once they know exactly what you had you will be charged.
They actually amended my charge from manufacture psilocybin to manufacture psilocin at my sentencing which took 10 months to reach and I sat in jail the entire time... On the mushroom lab they gave me 10 years and suspended 8, with parole/probation...
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: honky red]
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Well, that's not very comforting. I have to go to court tomorrow, and then an additional two times(assuming it isn't dismissed) before I either plead guilty or go to trial.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: honky red]
#22651310 - 12/13/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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honky red said: I got popped with a lab once. What they are waiting for is to test everything to see what illegal substances that you actually have. So in for example they are testing the Myc jars for psilocin or psilocybin or both depending on what the statutes in your state actually say. Once they know exactly what you had you will be charged.
They actually amended my charge from manufacture psilocybin to manufacture psilocin at my sentencing which took 10 months to reach and I sat in jail the entire time... On the mushroom lab they gave me 10 years and suspended 8, with parole/probation...
Must've been a decent setup, eh?
May I ask how they caught you?
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Anonymous #2]
#22698612 - 12/25/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've told the story on here before but I think under a diferent name that I have since forgotten. So I will just be brief. I did Grateful Dead tour in the 80's and met people who I slung grams of L with and learned to grow fungus with etc. then I didn't see them for years. In 2001 I got back to hanging out with them again and they were not into the growing fungus any more but I was and they wanted to be again, yada yada yada... So shit kind goes south so we stop hanging out again and a few months later they get popped and the govt threatens to take their children and give them a bunch of time, so they snitched on me. The DEA showed up at my house. It was a massive bust for them. It was very costly for me. end of story.
I do not grow shit anymore...
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CitizenErased
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: honky red]
#23183902 - 05/03/16 11:16 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I am not in prison. 2 years reporting probation. Bunch of fines and fees. Drug eval. Plus they kept the 2k they stole from me, another thousand out of my bail and I owe a friend about $14k for my lawyer.
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Bobabouy
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Alias-L]
#23230586 - 05/15/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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For that kind of money, your lawyer sucked! Unless you have a bunch of priors. $14k??? Fuck that. I've pain $5k retainers and got off much scarier charges.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Bobabouy]
#23239805 - 05/17/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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shit, a court appointed lawyer should have gotten probation and deferred adjudication if this was a first offense. if in texas
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: SexySmurff]
#23244435 - 05/19/16 12:56 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't know where you live, but around here, we have some pretty draconian drug laws. My lawyer did fine. He can be credited with several aggressive and well-timed actions that are directly responsible for my not going to jail for 20 years. The money was technically a gift. I will, however, attempt to pay it back in increments when that is even remotely possible. They also took my driver's license away. They like to do that here for everything. Makes my bullshit 9-5 all the easier to swallow.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
#23259535 - 05/22/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Damn man.
Fuck the license. You wouldn't be driving anywhere for 20 years had it went the opposite way!
Glad you made it without prison. Don't fuck up your probation. Don't smoke weed and try to flush for drug tests. Don't run with bad people.
Walk the very straight and narrow for 2 years mate. When it's over, you'll look back and say damn that went fast
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Moabfighter]
#23307916 - 06/04/16 05:47 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cant put a price on freedom, glad youre ok
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: babyblue]
#23481346 - 07/27/16 05:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Moral: Don't use an alcohol lamp to torch your needles, get yourself a small butane torch lighter. Gets the job done and is much safer to use.
There are two types of busts: snitched outs where someone tells on you, and found outs where something happens unexpectedly that ends up getting the cops to arrive. Whatever you can do to lessen the chance of a accident outing you the better.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Eywa_devotee]
#23481382 - 07/27/16 06:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just read this whole thread. So glad you're not locked up. Just hearing shit like this scares me to death. Be safe bro!
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