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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #22243202 - 09/15/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I saw you hadn't posted in like 8 days and wondered if you had been arrested. Any change in status of the case?

I'm glad you got legal help. You didn't give up trying and it happened. You've got a hell of a friend there. Still hoping they never get the funding to test your stuff. I read that there's like half a million rape kits that have yet to be tested in America, some so old the Statute of Limitations has likely expired in many of the cases. If they can't come up with the flow to test a rape kit, for the love of sanity I hope there isn't a single dollar available to investigate victimless crimes.


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Srirachi]
    #22243243 - 09/15/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Oh, no, they just don't care about rape because it doesn't make them nearly as much money to prosecute. Correction: The man in question was actually in prison for over 37 years. There was another guy out of Baltimore who got 20 years back in 2011 for 6 grams of weed. They don't give a shit. They are a bunch of sadistic dogs without leashes.

But yeah, that would be pretty amazing. Not counting on it though. And no, still waiting on the lab I guess. Who knows what kind of trumped up bullshit they're trying to come up with in the mean time.


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #22265962 - 09/20/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

When I got arrested I sat in jail for a while, I was offered in patient treatment pre-trial which I took to get out of the cell. In the end I'm glad I did, it helped get me a lower sentence, plus I was out before I was sentenced and got to enjoy the limited freedom they allow while on pre-trial probation.

Being caught in the (un)justice system is no picnic, especially when it's for something like drugs, something that should never get anyone put behind bars. I'm grateful only four years of my life were taken, the government didn't have much of a case. If I was able to afford a lawyer instead of having a public defender I may have gotten less time. What really would have gotten me less time, that would have been following the rules to a T.

I pissed dirty while I was in a halfway house... I pissed dirty for a substance that wasn't even controlled at the time here. I along with at least half of the halfway house smoked spice while I was there. Some twat ratted us all out and they cleaned house.

If I hadn't pissed dirty I was looking good for getting 5yr probation instead of jail time. IMO probation is way harder than jail time if yur an addict, I and way too many I've known, have done more time for fucking up on probation than our sentences were for.

I wish you the best, take care, follow the rules, and don't stop advocating for yourself. No one is going to do those things for you and they are the best things you can do. Oh, and if it comes down to it, unless its a really good one, never take the first plea. My first offer was 5yr prison and 5yr probation, that was in 2010, I've been a free man for almost a year now, if I'd have taken the first plea I'd still be in Ft. Dix, NJ federal prison


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: luckytriple6]
    #22266261 - 09/20/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Damn. A few days is terrible. I couldn't imagine four years.


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: luckytriple6]
    #22276579 - 09/22/15 09:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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What really would have gotten me less time, that would have been following the rules to a T.



Damn, this is so real right now.  I am about to get back into growing only only edibles.  I couldn't image trying to grow some Cubensis in between some trays. :shocked:

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Ft. Dix, NJ federal prison



Speaking of Fort. Dix NJ.  read this
this video is worth the watch too.


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #22279132 - 09/23/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

woah woah woah!
I read on here a second hole keeps negative pressure from causing an issue!
I guess I should throw that diy lamp of mine out...
What kind of lamp were you using?
just used mine and I guess im lucky that something didnt happen...
Sorry this has happened to you btw, hope it turns out well for you


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: funguy64]
    #22282169 - 09/24/15 05:16 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, that's what I read too. And I'm more than regretful that I listened. It was just a small, round mason jar with a cotton wick. I dunno. I'm thinking more and more about taking the money I got for my lawyer and bailing. I have a friend on the other side of the country. Plus thanks to these dickheads I'll be homeless in a few days. They took all of my money, what else can I really do anyway? There aren't any charges yet, so how much trouble can I really get in for leaving if there aren't any charges?


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: shroomyaxn]
    #22287692 - 09/25/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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What really would have gotten me less time, that would have been following the rules to a T.



Damn, this is so real right now.  I am about to get back into growing only only edibles.  I couldn't image trying to grow some Cubensis in between some trays. :shocked:

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Ft. Dix, NJ federal prison



Speaking of Fort. Dix NJ.  read this
this video is worth the watch too.




I read that whole article, I still don't know what to think... I've heard of those brothers before but never read such an in-depth article on them. Going through what I've gone through is nothing compared to what they have endured. I only had to spend a few nights in solitary confinement, most of those were due to being transferred to a different county jail and being stuck waiting to see the jail doctor before I could be released into the communal areas, though once I was forced to protect myself and sat in solitary(for one night) till they figured out I didn't start the fight, that I just ended it...

I know what it's like to go to jail because two scumbags worked with the police to put you there... At the same time, I had committed the crime. Yet, if it wasn't for the people working with the police and against me my case would have been thrown out  due to lack of evidence. My case was thrown out in the state and picked up by the feds, I was then charged with conspiracy to manufacture a schedule 2(meth) controlled substance.

When I was arrested all I was in position of was glassware and residue, the residue wasn't necessarily on the glassware either... The only actual drugs, if you could even call them that, were a few P. cube pins on a casing that had went bad(trich) that I was to bury out in the woods the day I was arrested. The damning evidence was at the house of the kids that worked with the police, two known criminal drug addicts that would say anything to save there own asses. They were in position of a mixture and substance containing methamphetamine, post reaction fluid they were supposed to toss into a dumpster on the way to work in the city...

In my case the kids were turned informant, this was dome by the feds when they realized they had nothing on me. The cops made these threats that they were going to rip the drywall off the walls of my parents house looking for evidence... I never knew I could get caught up in a conspiracy, I thought that was only for mob bosses and terrorists... I made the mistake of telling the cops that everything I had was in the room they found me in and saying a long time ago I had cooked meth but that I didn't do it anymore, that was enough evidence for conspiracy charges...

My own word against myself trying to save my parents house from being destroyed, and the word of two known criminals and drug addicts... I was clean before that, nothing but a few minor traffic violations...  All that said, it doesn't seem like the brothers from the article posted deserved to be dragged into the terrorism charges, but who knows, we will never know what was said in private. The fact that the informants spoke out trying to say that these brothers weren't actually terrorists speaks volumes, but at the same time they had the power to stop this from happening the whole time, they were motivated by greed, the same thing I was motivated by.

In my own defense, I would never have cooked meth or worked with the two shitbags turned informant had I not been homeless and out of money. I had thought about cooking meth many times and had started to make pure ingredients for a RP/I2/E hcl reaction. I had all the glassware needed from other projects such as making high purity alcohol and extracting dmt and mescaline from bark and cactus...

Those brothers probably shouldn't have even gone away for the weapons bought, they were completely setup, that shit ain't right... But neither is illegally purchasing firearms. Since I'm now a felon, if I get caught holding a gun I can be put away for up to 10 years. I met a man when I was at Ft. Dix who had a felony when he was young, he was there because he was caught by a game warden with a gun in his hands. He was out with a friend(the gun owner) and his son(a young child) duck hunting, he got 10 years of his life taken for duck hunting... I will never hold a gun for the rest of my life, I used to love shooting trap and targets...


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Let me out of this place
I'm outta place
I'm in outer space
I've just vanished without a trace
I'm going to a pretty place now where the flowers grow
I'll be back in an hour or so

[quote]Abuse said:
the dea can go fuck themselves! with the internet, the impossible is possible![/quote]


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: luckytriple6]
    #22288216 - 09/25/15 12:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

My heart goes out to you man(you as well luckytriple6). This is such a fucked up society where armed bureaucracies will put people in cages for growing plants that have been used for thousands of years as sacraments. Fucking horrible.

If they haven't told you to leave town I don't see why you shouldn't other than that it makes you look guilty. I also don't know if they'd be able to pursue the issue across state lines. If you do decide to bounce I would give your friend his money back though. I'd try to find someone knowledgeable and ask them in a discreet fashion about leaving before you do though.


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Bearlaser]
    #22301335 - 09/28/15 03:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If I were to get arrested out of state, they would find out, and I could be extradited. But how likely either of those things is is another story. I still haven't heard back from the police. No idea what's taking so long,


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #22301501 - 09/28/15 06:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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If I were to get arrested out of state, they would find out, and I could be extradited. But how likely either of those things is is another story. I still haven't heard back from the police. No idea what's taking so long,



Thanks for keeping us posted. Mabey they think the fire was bad enough. Drunk drivers get off the hook for dui when they crash sometimes


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #22303543 - 09/28/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, thanks for keeping us posted. This whole situation sucks, but I still hold out hope that they can't get a good test result or can't fund the test in the first place. If you don't have any assets for forfeiture, and it sounds like you don't - you just never know.

I still say that the cops trying to get you to self-incriminate is a good sign. You know they aren't trying to help YOU. If they had everything they needed they'd just come and get you.

Still, if you have no ties in your state, I'd bail. Yes, you could be extradited, but anything you can do to add layers of complexity to your state arresting you reduces the likelihood of you going to jail.

Please keep us posted and good luck on your housing situation.


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) *DELETED* [Re: Srirachi]
    #22370028 - 10/12/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Reason for deletion: Poorly researched reply.



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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Wotko]
    #22370052 - 10/12/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Did you read the whole thread?


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: 2shoes]
    #22370294 - 10/12/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Sure didn't I was in a hurry to get out off the house. Thanks for callin' me out man. Lol. I deleted the post.


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Wotko]
    #22380498 - 10/14/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well, still here. Don't ask me why. The suspense is brutal though. Hard to get anything done really. I've since taken to mixing e juice to pass the time. Anybody wants a free sample, just let me know! Even working on trying to get a business license. Of course, who knows how that'll play out if I end up with a felony...


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #22380602 - 10/14/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:thumbup: Glad you're kicking!

I think it could work in your favor to have a business if this thing ever gets to sentencing - I'm still hopeful that they were unable to fund testing!


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Srirachi]
    #22381639 - 10/15/15 12:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Not sure if this was mentioned but myc alone (afaik) does not have active alkaloids and is technically not illegal.  Alkaloids are formed after fruit bodies are formed so unless they fruit, your legal.  I would just assume the tests will come back negative and they won't be able to make a case.


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #22382273 - 10/15/15 07:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Well, still here. Don't ask me why. The suspense is brutal though. Hard to get anything done really. I've since taken to mixing e juice to pass the time. Anybody wants a free sample, just let me know! Even working on trying to get a business license. Of course, who knows how that'll play out if I end up with a felony...





any time a cop calls you and asks you to do their job for them you're good.

I had this happen one time when my dealer got arrested and I guess my first name and phone number was in his ledger. I got a phone call phishing for my last name and telling me to bring my product and money to the station. Fuck that, I learned to stop answering calls from no name numbers. If it's important they'll leave a message


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: theonlysun81]
    #22383054 - 10/15/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:whathesaid:
When I was in high school, I got in a fight at this large party. I pulled a gun (not threatening) held it pointed at the ground telling him to back off and walked back toward my car and jetted.
Next day I got a call from the PD asking if I would come down to talk to them about the incident.  Called my lawyer who told me anytime they ask you to go talk to them you don't have to. 
I think people trust police too much and figure if they're cooperative and nice to them they won't get pinched.


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