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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: shroomyaxn]
    #22144395 - 08/26/15 02:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe this is wishful thinking, but the police really seem like they're reaching here. They call me frequently and ask me to come in and "walk them through things". They always speak in a context that implies I've admitted guilt, and I always promptly remind them that I have not. I've told them politely that I won't be speaking with them again until I have a lawyer. This seems to have really gotten under their skin. They keep saying things like "you know as well as I do that you're guilty. Come in and work with us and we might be able to help you out, but after the lab results come back, there won't be anything to talk about. I hope you understand the severity of these charges" (Even though there currently are no charges.) They're also throwing out ridiculous ideas about my using vaporizers (for nicotine) in some way that they can incorporate into a charge. I just think it's really strange that I've not been detained and that the lab results take an entire month to come back. Unfortunately, I still don't have money for a lawyer. I guess I'll call the public defender's office tomorrow.


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #22144665 - 08/26/15 06:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It sounds like they're harassing you.


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #22144992 - 08/26/15 08:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Right but I'm wondering if it's because their case is much weaker than they'd like me to believe.


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #22145475 - 08/26/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It's not unheard of for a department with a limited budget to refuse to pay for testing of evidence involved in an insignificant crime. Possibly the officer has been told they aren't testing it, and to try to get you to confess.

Also, remember that the police cannot make deals. The prosecutor would be the one offering you a deal, IF they had enough to get the prosecutor to file charges.

It just really sucks that during all the chaos of the fire, with all the people coming and going, your door standing wide open for so long, and you talking to firemen in rooms you couldn't see your front door from, that you didn't see who came in and lost their bag of mushrooms.

Also, you might want to consider GETTING THE MONEY FOR A LAWYER. FFS, get a job, second job, whatever you need to do. Your freedom is worth it.


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Srirachi]
    #22145923 - 08/26/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Damn man that sucks. I hope everything works out for you. I wouldn't have talked to the police at all. At least they didn't bring in the hazmat team and make a big scene like you were endangering the entire neighborhood and put your face on the 5 o'clock news like they do most people when they find shroom grows.


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #22146904 - 08/26/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Right but I'm wondering if it's because their case is much weaker than they'd like me to believe.



Right now, it's weak.  Once the testing comes back, it won't be.  They just want to close the file with a confession.


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Enlil]
    #22148416 - 08/26/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If the police call you like that, they have nothing. If they had something on you would be arrested or waiting for a citation/summons, etc. I've had it happen before, just ignore the calls from now on.


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: theonlysun81]
    #22149552 - 08/26/15 11:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

They did bring in hazmat guys, actually. No news coverage yet though.


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Srirachi]
    #22149707 - 08/27/15 01:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Don't really have time for that, unfortunately. The lab results are expected back in another two weeks. I am trying everything I can, but it's just not really realistic. I'd need around $10,000.


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #22149709 - 08/27/15 01:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Enlil, what is your take on my not being arrested, despite dried fruits being found on the scene? Is this common?


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #22150021 - 08/27/15 06:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'll bet when you're sitting in a cell you'll be able to think of all sorts of ways you could have tried.

I'm not trying to be an ass but sometimes things like this are so overwhelming that you wind up in a daze, and looking back you're like "wtf was I thinking..." and really, you weren't thinking. You were in shock.

Don't decide it's impossible. Try. Hard. Like your freedom depends on it, because it probably does.


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #22150051 - 08/27/15 06:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Enlil, what is your take on my not being arrested, despite dried fruits being found on the scene? Is this common?



It's not uncommon for them to wait until the tests come back.  If they had arrested you, they'd have to give you a Gerstein hearing, and you might very well walk right there.  They just wait until they have enough to bind you over, and they do it then.


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Srirachi]
    #22159292 - 08/29/15 04:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I appreciate what you're saying, but it is impossible. I can't possibly make 10,000 in two weeks. My only hope for even a few grand is to sell everything I have and I still won't come close. No credit, so no loan. And no one I know could lend me that kind of money. Trust me, all I do all day every day is try to find money. Spending all of the precious time I have left working a minimum wage job wouldn't helpanything, and I wouldn't even get hired in time anyway. I need a faster solution, or just to accept that these lunatics fucked me good and learn to live with it.


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Dr.Satan]
    #22163472 - 08/30/15 05:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I strongly recommend consulting with a lawyer (in person). It's best to get yourself prepared so you know your options. No one on here is going to be able to tell you specifics on your legal situation since the laws vary so much from state to state, although enlil might be able to enlighten you a bit I still think it would be best to consult a lawyer in person. I wish you luck.




^^^ this. by far

Also, www.law.cornell.edu is a great resource

I don't think mycelium is illegal in ALL states but I could be wrong.

Hell, Forida mushrooms were legal a while ago unless dried.

You should definitely read up on local law on search and seizure (probable cause?), not talk to any cops and get a lawyer right away if you can afford it. EDIT: oh, and drug/conspiracy crap if it makes you feel better. There was no trafficking charge for shrooms in MA when I got caught.

You haven't even gotten a summons yet, right?


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: micro]
    #22172771 - 09/01/15 07:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I have talked to several lawyers, three in person. Doesn't do me too much good when I can't hire them and there aren't any charges yet. There are too many variables.


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #22172789 - 09/01/15 07:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The best I can hope for regarding their shady ass search procedures is to file a motion to suppress certain evidence, as I understand it. But I mean really it's just their word against mine.


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #22173118 - 09/01/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

hmmm. As far as the search.  Based on what they found before going into the closet they may be able to say they were concerned you would destroy any other evidence before they returned with a warrant.

As far as talking to you...ya don't say a word. The less you give them the better.  They are not your friends and definitely aren't trying to work with you.  They're just trying to make their job/pros easier during court.  I think you can get a public defender after they arrest you at your arraignment.  They didn't arrest you that night because they didn't have the results.  I'm sorry you're in this situation but I would expect the lab to come back with results from the shrooms you had.


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: midnightmaraude]
    #22173402 - 09/01/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Ha. Oh, I know they're not my friends. I wouldn't give a fuck if every one of these evil shitbags dropped dead today. I don't care what anyone says. There may be exceptions, but a lifetime of experience has shown me they are rare, to say the least.


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
    #22235352 - 09/14/15 03:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

From the sounds of it, until you know what you're being charged with, youre kind of stuck.

The worrying part for me is if they do end up charging you, are you going to be arraigned and have to wait or a bail hearing? I'm from Canada and don't know exactly how things work there.

Do you have any family who can help you out with some money to hire a lawyer? My lawyer has always been good in letting me pay in installments.

Hope everything works out OK man. Keep your head up. Things will get better.

I've been in worse situations but I was a youth and live in Canada and thankfully got off on probation. (1lb weed, 1lb shrooms, active grow, 20 grams molly)

It may be better to wait until you find out what charges (if any) you're getting, and then consult with a few more lawyers before you find the right one.

I consulted with several and ended up going with the cheapest one (and now the person I call when I need something) who got me off with no jail time, despite my circumstances, because I had no priors.

Good luck in your endeavors fellow shroomerite :peace:


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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #22243183 - 09/15/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, I'll be in custody until there's a sentencing. There will definitely be some charges. I've actually managed to get my legal fees covered thankfully. Friend from out of state who is well off got wind and offered to help. I have to be out of my apartment in two weeks though. If they don't detain me by then, I have no idea where I'll go. Like I said, they stole all of my god damn money.

They would have crucified you here for a stash like that. Most of our drug laws are notoriously excessive and they take full advantage whenever they can. There was a guy here who did over 30 years for 1 gram of coke. That's not common, but you know, still.


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