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Busted, but not arrested yet. 1
#22097263 - 08/16/15 01:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well, the unthinkable has happened. Small fire occurred, fire department responded, found my set up. They called the police. Police called in "testers". It was an obscene and excessive afair that surprisingly did not end with my arrest. My question is, why? And how long should I expect to wait before being charged? They took a lot of stuff. Jars of myc,iso, lights, rye an active grow (not yet fruiting), brand new PE syringes, dehydrator, empty buckets and jars with remnants in them. I know the spores aren't illegal, but the syringe was sitting on top of a grain jar next to 13 others ready to be inoculated and they have all of that active myc, which is illegal, correct? They also took my pressure cookers, verm, gypsum, and about 3k in cash as well as hundreds of dollars worth of my personal property that obviously had no relevance, such as my more expensive vaping pieces and e juices. I am trying to get a good lawyer, but I have no money, so, ya know. But yeah I can't for the life of me understand why I haven't been charged yet and the uncertainty is killing me. Is it because they want to finish testing everything first? The lawyer I spoke with said every psychedelic-related case he's won has been due to his ability to prove testing was unreliable or inadequate. Just looking for any fringe of hope.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
#22097280 - 08/16/15 01:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Mushroom Cultivation.
Reason: better suited here, sorry man that sucks balls
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: cronicr]
#22097352 - 08/16/15 02:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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What was the dialogue between you and the fuzz? Did you incriminate yourself? Hit enlils ask an attorney thread and get his take on it.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Matt87]
#22097368 - 08/16/15 02:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I maintained that I grow legal edibles. They did find probably like an oz or two of old, dried mushrooms though. Even though they said they found "ten bags", which either isn't true or a bunch of them just had shake in them or something. Strangely enough, they left an eighth of that and a gram of weed behind. They went into my closet to find the grow well before they had a warrant, so I hope that works in my favor somehow.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
#22097410 - 08/16/15 02:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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CitizenErased said: I maintained that I grow legal edibles. They did find probably like an oz or two of old, dried mushrooms though. Even though they said they found "ten bags", which either isn't true or a bunch of them just had shake in them or something. Strangely enough, they left an eighth of that and a gram of weed behind. They went into my closet to find the grow well before they had a warrant, so I hope that works in my favor somehow.
I strongly recommend consulting with a lawyer (in person). It's best to get yourself prepared so you know your options. No one on here is going to be able to tell you specifics on your legal situation since the laws vary so much from state to state, although enlil might be able to enlighten you a bit I still think it would be best to consult a lawyer in person. I wish you luck.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Dr.Satan]
#22097564 - 08/16/15 04:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The only thing I would be concerned about is the jars of colonized spawn and tubs/cakes that hadn't fruited yet. If you get very lucky, the police could store the stuff wrong and it won't be suitable for testing when that time comes. I've seen it happen before. If you are charged it will likely be weeks or even longer, so they can prove you even did any wrongdoing. But they don't need a warrant if there's a fire. As for the mail, not sure if they had reason to do that. But good luck arguing the cops opened your mail in court if it came to that
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Buck513]
#22098103 - 08/16/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Be sure to let them know that you won't be participating in "fill the boot" from now on.
Quick question, who called the fire department? A resident of your home, or someone else?
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Srirachi]
#22098595 - 08/16/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Were you home during the whole event? (firefighters coming then the cops being called)
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: 2shoes] 1
#22098623 - 08/16/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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May I ask how the fire started, or could have started?
Looking to NEVER make a mistake that would cause a fire to start when I start back up my green house.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: shroomyaxn]
#22099060 - 08/16/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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shroomyaxn said: May I ask how the fire started, or could have started?
Looking to NEVER make a mistake that would cause a fire to start when I start back up my green house.
You can't prevent acts of God
Sometimes shit just happens
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Buck513]
#22100073 - 08/16/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Buck513 said: The only thing I would be concerned about is the jars of colonized spawn and tubs/cakes that hadn't fruited yet. If you get very lucky, the police could store the stuff wrong and it won't be suitable for testing when that time comes. I've seen it happen before. If you are charged it will likely be weeks or even longer, so they can prove you even did any wrongdoing. But they don't need a warrant if there's a fire. As for the mail, not sure if they had reason to do that. But good luck arguing the cops opened your mail in court if it came to that
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Buck513 said: The only thing I would be concerned about is the jars of colonized spawn and tubs/cakes that hadn't fruited yet. If you get very lucky, the police could store the stuff wrong and it won't be suitable for testing when that time comes. I've seen it happen before. If you are charged it will likely be weeks or even longer, so they can prove you even did any wrongdoing. But they don't need a warrant if there's a fire. As for the mail, not sure if they had reason to do that. But good luck arguing the cops opened your mail in court if it came to that
Well they do have some dried fruits, so there will be at least a possessions charge. The fire department didn't go into my closet though. The police did, without a warrant or consent. Nowhere near where the fire happened.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Srirachi]
#22100077 - 08/16/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I called, unfortunately. I didn't see a choice. I was panicked.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: shroomyaxn]
#22100085 - 08/16/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alcohol lamp accident. Took some stupid advice on drilling a second hole. If i'd have thought about it for two seconds, I'd have realized that doesn't make sense. But I was extremely tired and not thinking correctly. I drilled the second hole, lit it, and it immediately exploded. I know, I'm an idiot. I would do anything to go back to that moment and use my head, obviously.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: 2shoes]
#22100096 - 08/16/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was until several hours later, but I eventually left after finding I was free to. I hadn't slept in days. Couldn't go into my place anyway. Was just sitting outside for 6 hours. Decided to go and be with my girlfriend until they left.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
#22100958 - 08/16/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Next time edit your posts.
Are the dried fruits what was left in open air for a long time of whatever? Fruits lose potency extremely fast while left in open air, so I don't know if they'll even be able to prove they are psychedelic mushrooms through testing.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Buck513]
#22101140 - 08/17/15 12:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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They weren't left totally out in the open, but they were neglected. Old and in bags that weren't vacuum sealed. They were soft and chewy.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: CitizenErased]
#22101534 - 08/17/15 05:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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CitizenErased said: Alcohol lamp accident. Took some stupid advice on drilling a second hole. If i'd have thought about it for two seconds, I'd have realized that doesn't make sense. But I was extremely tired and not thinking correctly. I drilled the second hole, lit it, and it immediately exploded. I know, I'm an idiot. I would do anything to go back to that moment and use my head, obviously.
You're losing me, what do you mean by second hole? It blew up big enough you called the fire dept. instead of just running to the kitchen for some pots of water or something? Were you sober?
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Amanita86]
#22102778 - 08/17/15 01:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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CitizenErased said: Alcohol lamp accident. Took some stupid advice on drilling a second hole. If i'd have thought about it for two seconds, I'd have realized that doesn't make sense. But I was extremely tired and not thinking correctly. I drilled the second hole, lit it, and it immediately exploded. I know, I'm an idiot. I would do anything to go back to that moment and use my head, obviously.
You're losing me, what do you mean by second hole? It blew up big enough you called the fire dept. instead of just running to the kitchen for some pots of water or something? Were you sober?
I keep a fire extinguisher in my house as do the majority of people I would think a small fire like that would be simple to manage. And yea why did you think drilling a hole in your alcohol lamp was a good idea? Like what did you intend to gain by doing that?
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Dr.Satan]
#22105169 - 08/18/15 01:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't know. I read that it would equalize the pressure within the lamp or something. But, of course, it just introduced oxygen where it shouldn't be. And yeah, it blew it up, man. Half of my bathroom instantly caught fire and there were aerosol cans everywhere. I didn't have a lot of time to think. I'm not the only one in the building and some of the people are old. Calling was just a panic reaction. I did attempt to put it out at the same time, and I did, while I was still on the phone. But they came anyway. It all happened very fast. I was sober, but had not slept in a long time. I have a lot of problems sleeping.
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Re: Busted, but not arrested yet. (moved) [Re: Buck513]
#22105702 - 08/18/15 08:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Buck513 said: Are the dried fruits what was left in open air for a long time of whatever? Fruits lose potency extremely fast while left in open air, so I don't know if they'll even be able to prove they are psychedelic mushrooms through testing.
What about cubensis spawn? Can the spawn be proven to be psychedelic mushrooms through tests done at a local law enforcement office or where ever they send it?
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