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Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked?
#22096863 - 08/15/15 11:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Doesn't take much to get punched in the face by a thug.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: RanOutOfWeed] 2
#22096872 - 08/15/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Watching the video this dude fails completely on delivery. He is like the most timid bitch walking up to them.. "Oh I just wanted ask uh.. could I uh.. Test uh.."
Gtfo out of here with that shit. Walk up and doing it like you own it. At least then the video would be entertaining, although we'd probably never see it because they'd see you as a threat instead of the little pussy you actually were.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22096881 - 08/15/15 11:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Don't you have better things to do? Im just gona block you. Annoying little fuck
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: RanOutOfWeed] 1
#22096892 - 08/15/15 11:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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No not really. And hey I edited to add content after I had a chance to actually watch the video.
But go ahead and block me I don't really give a shit. The only one I cared about was my first. I'll never love you the same.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: RanOutOfWeed] 1
#22096893 - 08/15/15 11:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Might you be a thug? haha jk
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
#22096897 - 08/15/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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If that shit is for real, I don't give that guy a very long life span. Pretty funny though.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: impatientguy]
#22096901 - 08/15/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Maybe dont prank people. No one likes surprises
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I find it sad that nobody ever avoids their punches.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Salomon] 2
#22097004 - 08/15/15 11:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Because they are insecure and feel the need to constantly prove themselves and overcompensate for something or other. If they grew up around people, that attitude is only reinforced and they feel worthless unless they put on the tough guy act.
I think it's appalling when a guy acts like that.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: RanOutOfWeed] 1
#22097008 - 08/15/15 11:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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RanOutOfWeed said: I find it sad that nobody ever avoids their punches.
You actually believe that was real?
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: my3rdeye] 2
#22097010 - 08/15/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's on youtube, of course it's real.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Salomon] 1
#22097014 - 08/15/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hahaha that's funny shit the boondocks usually gets me laughing
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Salomon] 1
#22097017 - 08/15/15 11:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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AKA "When keepin it real goes wrong"
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
#22097020 - 08/15/15 11:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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RanOutOfWeed said: Doesn't take much to get punched in the face by a thug.
nope, sure doesnt when you're threatening to pull a gun on them
I think most people would punch you in the face for that shit
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22097032 - 08/15/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Every single hood prank no matter how innocent the prank the thugs always have to throw a punch.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
#22097050 - 08/16/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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RanOutOfWeed said: Every single hood prank no matter how innocent the prank the thugs always have to throw a punch.
That's because its fake. They make these videos to appeal to racists. They also appeal to minorities because you get to see them punch white dudes. You really think those fucking pussies have the balls to start fights with gang members on the street? That no one ever notices the guy filming? And they just say "bro its a prank" and everyone laughs? They are raking in the cash with these fake ass videos. Every punch in that was soft as hell or not a good angle so you couldn't tell.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22097053 - 08/16/15 12:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Real thugs are just serious people. They've been through a lot of shit in their lifetimes that make them that way, but there is a ridiculous amount of wannabe retards who think it's cool or something to be a gangster. Those wannabe types are the ones you will see going out of their way with desperate attempts to get their friends approval whether it's starting fights or just trying to portray themselves as a bad ass. It's actually some pretty comical stuff. We can only hope they grow up one day and feel ashamed of themselves, but I think that's giving them too much credit.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: my3rdeye]
#22097055 - 08/16/15 12:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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They're not fake, and cameras are so tiny these days that you'd never notice them
A few of the hood pranks people got teeth knocked out, stabbed, etc.
You can tell when something is scripted...95% of hood pranks aren't
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: my3rdeye]
#22097064 - 08/16/15 12:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Blacks have a way of showing off alpha and insult culture.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
#22097066 - 08/16/15 12:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It has something to do with ghetto culture. Pride, masculinity, and ego are everything and these type of men don't have a sense of humor and one little joke or anything that may remotely check their egos like a small prank or joke will set them off because their egos are so massive and anything they perceive as disrespect will not go unpunished.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Janky Tits]
#22097069 - 08/16/15 12:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's funny when you see the 6"3 200 pound black dudes being mature
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#22097079 - 08/16/15 12:18 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I dunno if this one is real, but I think is really what set off this youtube prank phenomenon. It was the first one I had ever seen really reach virility. I'm sure there other attempts before it, but I've never heard of any. When I saw this it was completely novel to me. It also spread like wlid fire.
If the people are acting, they really need find an acting career because they do a damn good job.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Janky Tits]
#22097086 - 08/16/15 12:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Xplicit RelapzZ said: It has something to do with ghetto culture. Pride, masculinity, and ego are everything and these type of men don't have a sense of humor and one little joke or anything that may remotely check their egos like a small prank or joke will set them off because their egos are so massive and anything they perceive as disrespect will not go unpunished.
Exactly. Their very nature is one of "I'm a bad ass and nobody can fuck with me" type shit. Anyone who does anything to test them on that they respond with violence to try to prove that to people. Kinda of stupid IMO, but to each their own.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: my3rdeye]
#22097087 - 08/16/15 12:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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my3rdeye said: That's because its fake.
Yeah I agree. Reeks of being staged.
And by off chance that it's actually real -- those dudes are on a level of retardation that approaches epic & biblical proportions.
If you go into the hood and walk up to dudes you don't know talking about your strap and how you're going to pull it out, you can easily catch a bullet for talking dumb shit like that.
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I guarantee you those guys were thinking they were the coolest shit on the block.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Dr.Satan]
#22097099 - 08/16/15 12:27 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dr.Satan said: Exactly. Their very nature is one of "I'm a bad ass and nobody can fuck with me" type shit.
I'm far from a thug apologist, but you also have to remember where they live.
People get assaulted and killed all the time in the hood. So naturally there's a paranoia that comes along with that. They don't trust anybody. Hell they can barely trust the homeys they hang out with, let alone some random stranger walking down the street talking about how he wants you to "touch his strap" or how he's going to pull his strap out.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22097100 - 08/16/15 12:27 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Idk man he'd prolly at least get hit ass knocked out once If that were real. fake IMO just my guess though
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
#22097113 - 08/16/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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RanOutOfWeed said: Every single hood prank no matter how innocent the prank the thugs always have to throw a punch.
which ones are innocent pranks?
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Dr.Satan]
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Dr.Satan said:
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MilkdudTitties said:

I guarantee you those guys were thinking they were the coolest shit on the block.
I'll bet. Looks very stupid to me.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Le_Canard]
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I've always wondered what the fuck started this. Was it just like some underprivileged youth in the ghetto that had to wear goodwill/hand me downs that didn't fit and he decided to make a fashion statement out of it? It really makes no fucking sense. This isn't even a race related thing, it's a culture thing and that culture is constantly running from the cops.. Makes about as much sense as tying your shoe laces together when at any given moment you might have to run.
I can make it a race issue though...
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Saggin doesnt offend me, the fact that they wear underpants. If we can have saggin without the underpants you won't hear me complain.
Its a prison signal that you are anally receptive to be someones bitch in exchange for protection. Do it right. Fuck your Calvins.

In case Zappa jumps me, no saggin culture has crossed over to holland too. Not just do many guys do it in the street, they do it in the swimmingpool. Yes they wear underwear under their swimtrunks and then sag these trunks. 
What the HELL people?
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Asante]
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It doesn't offend me, it just really confuses me. I don't understand how they keep them up. Do they have suspenders under there or something?
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: nicechrisman]
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That may be a good topic to strike up a conversation about.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Asante]
#22097801 - 08/16/15 07:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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They don't like cops patting them down so they were their pants like that to show who's the bottom male
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pirate-blues said: Because they are insecure and feel the need to constantly prove themselves and overcompensate for something or other. If they grew up around people, that attitude is only reinforced and they feel worthless unless they put on the tough guy act.
I think it's appalling when a guy acts like that.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Asante]
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Its a prison signal that you are anally receptive to be someones bitch in exchange for protection. Do it right. Fuck your Calvins.
This is actually the right answer. San Quinten is where it started.
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I grew up around the ghetto. Thugs more often than not grow up in really, really, really harsh environments. Many people can't even imagine it. It's that bad.
Throw on top of that the fact that their role models are often rap artists and local drug dealers. It isn't pretty.
Many of these people don't even have a chance in hell to make it out of their environment, nevertheless make something of themselves. Not a chance. Which is really unfortunate because the programs are out there to help get them going on a good track. The programs are literally at their fingertips, but they're often so far gone down the wrong path that even the thought of turning their life around seems like a fucking pipe dream.
It's like someone visiting an exotic country that barely resembles their homeland. They wouldn't know what to do to get started acclimating to the environment.
They also often lack basic skills like elementary math, english, etc. So, they resort to immersing themselves into what they know, which is a life of what screwed them in the first place.
Real talk.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: DirdyD]
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Smart drug dealers will want money, but they don't want to get their hands dirty for a paycheck. Most drug dealers I assume are looking for a second income and drug use to them gives them networking cappabilities
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In case Zappa jumps me, no saggin culture has crossed over to holland too. Not just do many guys do it in the street, they do it in the swimmingpool. Yes they wear underwear under their swimtrunks and then sag these trunks. 
It's pretty much over here. Haven't really seen it for a while.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: zappaisgod]
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I guess you live in a better neighborhood than I do 
Actually I think its hilarious because its an extremely blunt gay signal and these guys have no clue and act all macho
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Asante said: I guess you live in a better neighborhood than I do 
Actually I think its hilarious because its an extremely blunt gay signal and these guys have no clue and act all macho 
I go into the city, including the Bronx, all the time. That shit is passe here. You guys are just behind the fashion trend.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: zappaisgod]
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Someone once said "if the world comes to an end I'll go to Holland, because everything's fifty years behind there."
I like to think we bridged that gap, but not the belt-to-spine gap apparently.
Not nearly as bad a fashion as 1980s sweatpants
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DirdyD said: I grew up around the ghetto. Thugs more often than not grow up in really, really, really harsh environments. Many people can't even imagine it. It's that bad.
Throw on top of that the fact that their role models are often rap artists and local drug dealers. It isn't pretty.
Many of these people don't even have a chance in hell to make it out of their environment, nevertheless make something of themselves. Not a chance. Which is really unfortunate because the programs are out there to help get them going on a good track. The programs are literally at their fingertips, but they're often so far gone down the wrong path that even the thought of turning their life around seems like a fucking pipe dream.
It's like someone visiting an exotic country that barely resembles their homeland. They wouldn't know what to do to get started acclimating to the environment.
They also often lack basic skills like elementary math, english, etc. So, they resort to immersing themselves into what they know, which is a life of what screwed them in the first place.
Real talk.
no, it's not real talk. my formative teen years were spent living in the ghetto, the reason they didnt have the opportunities is because they chose to cave to pressure and take the easy way out, they make the environment they're in, not individually but collectively. they've said "why the fuck do I need an education when I can make more money selling crack". let's stop making excuses for people that succumbed to the lure of easy money and let then deal with their own greed issue as they are
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Asante]
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Asante said: Someone once said "if the world comes to an end I'll go to Holland, because everything's fifty years behind there."
I like to think we bridged that gap, but not the belt-to-spine gap apparently.
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Naaah. I suppose we choose to see these situations per our existing view of the world, but I can say without a doubt that many of the people I came up with through elementary and high school had home lives that were horror stories. Crack addicted parents, chronic abuse, high homicide rates, etc. Hell, I had my ass kicked a number of times at school, on the bus and outside of school. I don't hate them nor am I overtly racists because I don't choose to have that perspective.
If you can't see and understand how these things can deeply disturb a young child, then I really question your motives, as many do.
Do they have a choice as adults? Of course, we all do. But the deck is stacked against them from the very beginning and that is one hell of a mountain to climb. By the time many reach adulthood, they already have records that exclude them from many programs that can help and decent paying jobs. I'm not making excuses for them, I'm stating reasons why many act the way they do.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: DirdyD]
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Didn't read the whole thread but the video posted shows the few violent reactions or is just scripted.
Check this out:
IMO its pretty hard to provoke someone to fight you without being violent yourself
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: DirdyD]
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DirdyD said: Naaah. I suppose we choose to see these situations per our existing view of the world, but I can say without a doubt that many of the people I came up with through elementary and high school had home lives that were horror stories. Crack addicted parents, chronic abuse, high homicide rates, etc. Hell, I had my ass kicked a number of times at school, on the bus and outside of school. I don't hate them nor am I overtly racists because I don't choose to have that perspective.
If you can't see and understand how these things can deeply disturb a young child, then I really question your motives, as many do.
I lived through alcoholics and drug addicts, a father that was convicted of 1st degree murder, a step father who's answer to everything was a beating, I fucking hated and still hate christmas because of that bastard, did you ever open a gift only to know it was going to be used to beat the shit out of you later. I was the small kid in school so dont think I didnt have my share of fights, lucky for me if I ran or lost my step father would beat my ass and make me go fight them again. it didnt take long to understand that I cant run or lose and it didnt matter if it was 1 kid of 5 kids and their size didnt matter either, I should have known better and picked up something to bring them down to my size
maybe it is about our experiences that shape our outlook
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Do they have a choice as adults? Of course, we all do. But the deck is stacked against them from the very beginning and that is one hell of a mountain to climb. By the time many reach adulthood, they already have records that exclude them from many programs that can help and decent paying jobs. I'm not making excuses for them, I'm stating reasons why many act the way they do.
bullshit. they had the choice as kids to learn to read and write, they have the choice as kids to not cave to the pressures to 'stop acting/talking white', they have the choices as kids to decide they dont want to go into the family business of drugs and alcohol. I had those same choices and I made better choices than those that were seeking the easy way out so let's put the blame where the blame belongs, on each individual since millions of ghetto raise black kids have left poverty when they decided to not give into the pressures to conform to the shit their friends were doing. they are each the reasons they have records and they are each the reason they're excluded from various programs. it's not racism and it's not the 'man'. it's stupid choices by the individuals
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: zappaisgod]
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I still see it here in the greater LA area on occasion, but it's not really that much of a thing anymore unless you're in the deep ghetto.
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MilkdudTitties said: Didn't read the whole thread but the video posted shows the few violent reactions or is just scripted.
Check this out:
IMO its pretty hard to provoke someone to fight you without being violent yourself
really? you mean to say this retardedly contrive crap is the same? the guy keeps gesturing that he's offering a drink and the tone certainly isnt the same as those other twats... let's see how some of those hood pranks went
same guys as the first, without the fake censoring and at 2:15 you'll find the goods
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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That guy is going around TRYING to provoke people to get violent with him, of course a lot of them do, thats what he wanted to happen, to get more views on his videos
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MilkdudTitties said: That guy is going around TRYING to provoke people to get violent with him, of course a lot of them do, thats what he wanted to happen, to get more views on his videos
well duh... while the little asian guy wasnt trying to provoke them, he was only using a few words that could be provocative as opposed to acting like he wanted to get into a fight
the two different videos are like comparing apples and orangutans
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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I think you're one of those cats that just isn't willing to see things beyond the ways that only reinforce your view. Maybe your childhood has something to do with it. I was raised in a pretty fucked household as well and not too differently than yours. But, it sounds like you want to repeat the things done to you, only doing it to other people you deem shit. A violent, abusive person will find any and every means to justify their abuse.
It's a cycle and I'd work to break it, if I was you. Don't you drink heavily as well?...
You're just so completely far off from the reality of situations like this that it isn't worth conversing over. I rarely say that, but that's the gist I'm getting. Honestly, you seem just as thuggish as them, just in your own sadistic way.
Funny how that works.
*bows out*
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
#22099518 - 08/16/15 04:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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U grow up in a dog eat dog eat world that's just way things go, u get bitten and challenged by a lot of dogs who only like to bark and eventually u learn to bite back.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
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Pris I commend you on making good choices. There are people out there that make bad choices. There are also kids whose parents make them sell drugs on the corner since the kids get less time. There are kids who get beat all the time when they're at home so they spend time with their friends, and consequently the only exposure they have to a life of not getting beat is a life around criminals.
Do they have the option of learning to read and write at school? Of course- but if they are having trouble with that and the teachers don't give them any attention how do you expect them to not turn to survival mode?
Let's not forget about the kids who are so broke they only way they've been able to have food and clothes is to sell drugs since 10 year olds can't get a job at McDonalds.
I think you've got this mindset that everyone is like you, and since you overcame certain obstacles it is unheard of that others couldn't/didn't and they only have themselves to blame when clearly it is a multi-dimensional issue. Things aren't always black & white.
As was mentioned- the odds are often stacked against them and so it becomes a part of who they are. Do you really think that a 4 year old who knows the words to Young Jeezy and flashes gang signs isn't indoctrinated into thug culture? Don't be foolish- it is brainwashed into their world view.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: DirdyD]
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DirdyD said: I think you're one of those cats that just isn't willing to see things beyond the ways that only reinforce your view. Maybe your childhood has something to do with it. I was raised in a pretty fucked household as well and not too differently than yours. But, it sounds like you want to repeat the things done to you, only doing it to other people you deem shit. A violent, abusive person will find any and every means to justify their abuse.
It's a cycle and I'd work to break it, if I was you. Don't you drink heavily as well?...
You're just so completely far off from the reality of situations like this that it isn't worth conversing over. I rarely say that, but that's the gist I'm getting. Honestly, you seem just as thuggish as them, just in your own sadistic way.
Funny how that works.
*bows out*
you mean to tell me that you arent seeing things in such a way as reinforces your views such as your mistaken impression that I'm filled with anger or resentment because of others or that I'm perpetuating some cycle. i grew up in housing, that doesnt mean I took the ghetto with me through life. you seem pretty out of touch with what I just typed, that was just a few minutes ago, not 35 years ago as was with my childhood
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#22099628 - 08/16/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm just saying.. I've read more than a few references to the nature of your opinions on things like this. I mean, lets not play stupid here.
And I've put a great deal of effort into opening up my perception of the world. A great deal. Self study, monasteries, etc. I'm not perfect, but I'm sure as hell not one-sided either.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
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MrBlueYoMind said: Pris I commend you on making good choices. There are people out there that make bad choices. There are also kids whose parents make them sell drugs on the corner since the kids get less time. There are kids who get beat all the time when they're at home so they spend time with their friends, and consequently the only exposure they have to a life of not getting beat is a life around criminals.
Do they have the option of learning to read and write at school? Of course- but if they are having trouble with that and the teachers don't give them any attention how do you expect them to not turn to survival mode?
Let's not forget about the kids who are so broke they only way they've been able to have food and clothes is to sell drugs since 10 year olds can't get a job at McDonalds.
I think you've got this mindset that everyone is like you, and since you overcame certain obstacles it is unheard of that others couldn't/didn't and they only have themselves to blame when clearly it is a multi-dimensional issue. Things aren't always black & white.
As was mentioned- the odds are often stacked against them and so it becomes a part of who they are. Do you really think that a 4 year old who knows the words to Young Jeezy and flashes gang signs isn't indoctrinated into thug culture? Don't be foolish- it is brainwashed into their world view.
I think you have the mindset that others dont have the choice, they do, they know that dealing drugs will land you in jail regardless of the indoctrination but as I've said, we all make our own choices, some take the path of struggle and others take the easy way and like to blame everyone else for their problems
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: DirdyD]
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DirdyD said: I'm just saying.. I've read more than a few references to the nature of your opinions on things like this. I mean, lets not play stupid here.
And I've put a great deal of effort into opening up my perception of the world. A great deal. Self study, monasteries, etc. I'm not perfect, but I'm sure as hell not one-sided either.
really? so tell me, what are my opinions
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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You're just so very far off, Pris. You're choosing to only see one very small sliver of the story.
Dude, if you don't know your own opinions, by all means please do a forum search. Hell, ask around. Stop playing stupid.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: DirdyD]
#22099687 - 08/16/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was reading on red and blue states
blue states were mostly financial or manufacture centers so the cost of living was hire there the red states were into energy and agriculture or whatever you consider agriculture
anyway the red states were typically richer in asset's people could acquire property while the blue states standard of living was relatively lower compared to the lesser red state
It's just economics the scales move around a bit but in the end whenever you try to fix one side the other side needs to be fixed next
doing something like keeping out illegal illegal aliens, diminishing the size of cartels through enforced curfews, and giving people incentives to have energy efficient homes you could do that,but everyone is stealing all the time, and failing and whatever else the weather has in store for us
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: DirdyD]
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DirdyD said: You're just so very far off, Pris. You're choosing to only see one very small sliver of the story.
Dude, if you don't know your own opinions, by all means please do a forum search. Hell, ask around. Stop playing stupid.
so I dont see but a small sliver of the story that I have lived, I dont see that many others have lived the same and done shit with their lives while the ones that continue to blame everyone/thing else for their problems are doomed to live in that shit for the rest of their lives
you're the one claiming to have some insight on my opinions, spit it out
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Konyap]
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Konyap said: I was reading on red and blue states
blue states were mostly financial or manufacture centers so the cost of living was hire there the red states were into energy and agriculture or whatever you consider agriculture
anyway the red states were typically richer in asset's people could acquire property while the blue states standard of living was relatively lower compared to the lesser red state
It's just economics the scales move around a bit but in the end whenever you try to fix one side the other side needs to be fixed next
doing something like keeping out illegal illegal aliens, diminishing the size of cartels through enforced curfews, and giving people incentives to have energy efficient homes you could do that,but everyone is stealing all the time, and failing and whatever else the weather has in store for us
so you're saying that democrat controlled states tend to be poorer
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22099702 - 08/16/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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more evenly distributed
the poor vote red the poor poor have dozens of kids and who the fuck knows how that works out no ones going to stop them for believing in natural selection
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Konyap]
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Konyap said: more evenly distributed
the poor vote red the poor poor have dozens of kids and who the fuck knows how that works out no ones going to stop them for believing in natural selection
so you're saying that in republican held states the poverty gap is smaller while in the wealth hoarding liberal states the gap is greater
maybe the poor have an incentive to vote red if it means they dont have to watch the uber wealthy 'progressives' talk about the income inequality while sipping mimosas in their private jets
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: DirdyD]
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You're totally right. A person who is constantly exposed to crime and indoctrinated into being a criminal from birth by being raised by criminals, whose role models glorify being a criminal, and knows no other way of surviving but by being a criminal is going to magically choose to not have criminal instincts and use these to their advantage.
Of course it isn't IMPOSSIBLE. The point wasn't that it's impossible. The point was that the odds are heavily stacked against people. Just because there are examples of people who break the cycle doesn't mean the cycle doesn't exist.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
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If empathy isn't nurtured, and in fact taught to be a weakness, then there is no incentive for thugs to not be assholes.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Konyap said: more evenly distributed
the poor vote red the poor poor have dozens of kids and who the fuck knows how that works out no ones going to stop them for believing in natural selection
so you're saying that in republican held states the poverty gap is smaller while in the wealth hoarding liberal states the gap is greater
maybe the poor have an incentive to vote red if it means they dont have to watch the uber wealthy 'progressives' talk about the income inequality while sipping mimosas in their private jets
there's a greater risk for business, that's why there is such a huge discrepancy in what can be your starting pay
liberals have been barking a lot of shit seems like they can't stay out of the paper long enough for anyone to remember they did anything good
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
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MrBlueYoMind said: You're totally right. A person who is constantly exposed to crime and indoctrinated into being a criminal from birth by being raised by criminals, whose role models glorify being a criminal, and knows no other way of surviving but by being a criminal is going to magically choose to not have criminal instincts and use these to their advantage.
Of course it isn't IMPOSSIBLE. The point wasn't that it's impossible. The point was that the odds are heavily stacked against people. Just because there are examples of people who break the cycle doesn't mean the cycle doesn't exist.
the point is... many dont bother to try to get out of crime and poverty because for them it's the easy way out. no one really wants to work hard for their money
I grew up in the very conditions you describe and yes, I have a criminal mind and I use it for my advantage but it doesnt mean I use it to commit criminal acts
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there last edit in the paper before arab spring had something to do with drone strike conversations they didn't want that leaked lol
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Konyap]
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Konyap said: liberals have been barking a lot of shit seems like they can't stay out of the paper long enough for anyone to remember they did anything good
maybe you should refresh our memories, what good the the liberals do
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#22099772 - 08/16/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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they insured bank savings or something up to 250,000 reduced harsh sentencing for certain drug crimes ensured 30 million more people on health insurance flooded the border with non english day laborers and smoked a cigar in Havana
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Konyap]
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Konyap said: they insured bank savings or something up to 250,000 reduced harsh sentencing for certain drug crimes ensured 30 million more people on health insurance flooded the border with non english day laborers and smoked a cigar in Havana
they didnt insure anyone, they've imposed fines for not having insurance and now while 45 million americans that didnt have insurance are now insured according to them, more than 60 million people have lost their insurance and cannot afford it
they deregulated banking and finance allowing for the recession
they pushed for and continue to keep marijuana illegal
mandatory minimums are still in place at the behest of liberals
their immigration policies have managed to stagnate wages to below a livable wage and increased crime rates including violent crimes and has failed to hold the criminals accountable for their activities
so maybe you should refresh our memories, what good have the liberals done?
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22099844 - 08/16/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Regulation caused the recession, not deregulation. Money was lent to bums that no sane person would ever lend money to by government coercion. Look at Greece. They were going to default on loan paybacks unless they got more loans.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: zappaisgod]
#22099867 - 08/16/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Regulation caused the recession, not deregulation. Money was lent to bums that no sane person would ever lend money to by government coercion. Look at Greece. They were going to default on loan paybacks unless they got more loans. 
dont forget the grahm leach bliley act which allowed banks to get into investments and insurance, it was one of the leading causes
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Not really. All of the shitstorm came about because assholes defaulted on loans. It wasn't because of stockmarket losses. Do you know who really got fucked? Bank of America who the government forced to buy a failing investment house that no sane person would touch. I think that was Lehman but it might have been Bear Stearns.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: zappaisgod]
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I think america needs a ten.. no fifteen year recession that way next time we go to have a recession everybody will be like "No, I'm not having this. Too tired out."
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Janky Tits

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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Konyap]
#22102248 - 08/17/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was at this festival and I asked this black thug if I could have a hit of his J and he said "fuck outta here nigga". I then said " you "mother fuckers probably smoke Reggie anyway" and then they chased after me.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Janky Tits]
#22102278 - 08/17/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Xplicit RelapzZ said: I was at this festival and I asked this black thug if I could have a hit of his J and he said "fuck outta here nigga". I then said " you "mother fuckers probably smoke Reggie anyway" and then they chased after me.
Somehow I think it was the same kind of black thug that you see one or two at a star trek convention of, or you wouldnt have ran your mouth like that
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Janky Tits]
#22102787 - 08/17/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Knock them out. 99.9% of them can't fight anyways
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
#22102886 - 08/17/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Because real thugs don't take shit from nobody.
Being a thug myself, I'm somewhat of an expert on the subject.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Asante]
#22102887 - 08/17/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Asante said:
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Xplicit RelapzZ said: I was at this festival and I asked this black thug if I could have a hit of his J and he said "fuck outta here nigga". I then said " you "mother fuckers probably smoke Reggie anyway" and then they chased after me.
Somehow I think it was the same kind of black thug that you see one or two at a star trek convention of, or you wouldnt have ran your mouth like that 
Nah this was Moonrise Festival bro
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Janky Tits]
#22102908 - 08/17/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Aside from the videos being fake, am I the only one to think those guys deserve to get their asses kicked?
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Ezuma]
#22102929 - 08/17/15 02:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah some of them definitely do.
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: Ezuma]
#22103590 - 08/17/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: Aside from the videos being fake, am I the only one to think those guys deserve to get their asses kicked?
Truth. Especialy the guy taking the KKK gown in to be laundered. What a cunt. Black geezer should have serviced it and handed it back with a 'yellow jude star' sewn on it.
Like trying to hawk 'yellow jude stars' outside a synagogue would be soo fuckin hillarious. Roll up roll up, my friend here has a portable tattoo machine as well, if anyone would like a personalised number tattooed up their arm. Tradition!
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Re: Why Are "thugs" so easily provoked? [Re: deucedbi9]
#22103642 - 08/17/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I dont know what y'all thugs is but me I learned from Makaveli Don Killuminati THUGLIFE ( The Hate U Gave Little Infants Fucks Everybody) I like that notion it stems from the pain you just so desire to give for no reason but your own misery so I just be the greatest Love compassion and understanding without that where all damning you are talking about confused humans and that's ok we all need guidance but they are just humans products of environment its weird everyone wanna be a nigga but nobody wanna be a nigga while hating constantly real hypocritical bullshit going rampant in this time
I Love you all for that is it. know go ahead and talk... you know
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