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johnde
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ID requested for a few species
#22096725 - 08/15/15 10:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Northeast wisconsin August oak and beech forest interested in toxic varieties-

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MidnightCity
Apache Rose Peacock


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Re: ID requested for a few species [Re: johnde]
#22096787 - 08/15/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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7. Agaricus, could be toxic. 1. Coprinellus section Micacei, edible/non-toxic 3. Amanita section Phalloideae, deadly toxic. 4. Could be collybioid, perhaps Collybia. Not sure.
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nomendubium



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Re: ID requested for a few species [Re: MidnightCity]
#22097859 - 08/16/15 08:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would call 4 Mycena leaiana and 7 Pluteus petasatus group
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johnde
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Re: ID requested for a few species [Re: nomendubium]
#22100202 - 08/16/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Midnight City- there was a posting by Magic Dave "Amanita- Destroying Angel" in which he placed images that to me look like 3abc above.
You called my images Amanita section Phalloideae whereas you called Magic Dave's images "Amanita section Lepidella"
could you please point out the differences?
thnx
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MidnightCity
Apache Rose Peacock


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Re: ID requested for a few species [Re: johnde]
#22100272 - 08/16/15 08:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
johnde said: Midnight City- there was a posting by Magic Dave "Amanita- Destroying Angel" in which he placed images that to me look like 3abc above.
You called my images Amanita section Phalloideae whereas you called Magic Dave's images "Amanita section Lepidella"
could you please point out the differences?
thnx
They are different groups of similar species within the Amanita genus, both of which have very toxic members. Also, I agree with nomendubium's comment.
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nomendubium



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Re: ID requested for a few species [Re: MidnightCity]
#22101671 - 08/17/15 06:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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the key macroscopic difference between section phalloideae and lepidella is the base of the stem. Phalloideae always come out of a "sack" called a volva, and section Lepidella has a bulbous base often with scales on it, but no volva
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nomendubium



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Re: ID requested for a few species [Re: nomendubium] 1
#22101690 - 08/17/15 07:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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here is a short paper by Rod Tuloss on how to tell the sections of Amanita apart http://www.amanitaceae.org/content/uploaded/pdf/key2sect.pdf
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johnde
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Re: ID requested for a few species [Re: nomendubium]
#22103580 - 08/17/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for responses and the literature Most interesting
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