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OfflineBitter Cactus
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I kind of am rooting for Trump * 2
    #22095743 - 08/15/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I really could care less about politics in the United States, but I am rooting for Trump. I like his IDGAF attitude and he is entertaining.

What do you think about Trump?


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22095746 - 08/15/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think people loke you may get that cunt elected


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Bitter Cactus] * 3
    #22095750 - 08/15/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think he would be HORRIBLE for our country. He's looking out for himself and will flat out say as much. He doesn't have the countries interests at heart, only his own. That said I have always appreciated his candor, despite his ability to step on others without blinking.

moral of the story: no fucking way I'd vote for him :lol:


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22095755 - 08/15/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think he is an attention whore of a loudmouthed jerk, and I find him and his "politics" incredibly boring.

Are you really in Canada?  If so, you are really boring to even be talking about Trump.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: California]
    #22095801 - 08/15/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

my 1 and only worry about trump, is he could be an escape goat for the NWO.  he comes in, and then wraps all the corperations around his finger, then strings governments along under one banner, and nobody can complain because we voted him in and knew he might do something like that


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22095810 - 08/15/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:rofl:

I think there really is no ideal candidate. It's gonna be a shit show regardless of who is elected. I definitely do not want to see Hilary get elected though.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22095821 - 08/15/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hilary Clinton gives off cunt vibes to me.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #22095826 - 08/15/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Dont worry, bc is from canada.

He just loves to stir the shit pot

Trump wont win. What a joke.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22095835 - 08/15/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Bitter Cactus said:
I really could care less about politics in the United States, but I am rooting for Trump. I like his IDGAF attitude and he is entertaining.

What do you think about Trump?


I have lived in the NYC Metro area for over 40 years.  I have been aware of this self aggrandizing twat for almost that entire time.  I can't stand him.  He disgusts me


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22095863 - 08/15/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Bitter Cactus said:
Hilary Clinton gives off cunt vibes to me.



Hilary will destroy this country. The next 5 presidents will probably be cleaning up her mess. Obama probably wants her in office though. Within a year or two everyone will forget all the shit he's done because her fuck ups will be massive. I don't even closely follow politics and I know enough to make this call.


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I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22095875 - 08/15/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Shroomslip said:
:rofl:




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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: makaveli8x8] * 2
    #22095876 - 08/15/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Atreyu] * 2
    #22095892 - 08/15/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

cqn you imagine this guy as president tweeting his every thought at 3am


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Atreyu]
    #22095896 - 08/15/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

he is nothing but an egotistical buffoon.  anyone that is rooting for him most likely is a buffoon as well, just living vicariously.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #22095963 - 08/15/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:facepalm: obv trump is a jackass


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22095971 - 08/15/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Good thread bitter cactus


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: larry.fisherman] * 1
    #22096053 - 08/15/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I have a feeling that the next president will be the next anti-christ


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22096063 - 08/15/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Shroomslip said:
:rofl:

I think there really is no ideal candidate. It's gonna be a shit show regardless of who is elected. I definitely do not want to see Hilary get elected though.





:rofl: it's a real "escape goat"


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: FriedEgg]
    #22096088 - 08/15/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

anyone but hillary.


we should have an option to take a vote away from a candidate, instead of voting for one.

that would actually get me to the voting booths.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Adolin]
    #22096105 - 08/15/15 07:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Gresh said:
anyone but hillary.


we should have an option to take a vote away from a candidate, instead of voting for one.

that would actually get me to the voting booths.



Well that and if the votes actually mattered.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22096180 - 08/15/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

All politicians are assholes, trump just doesn't lie and read from the script, that's the main difference. Bitchlary would be the worst without a doubt. I would take Bernie second after trump because I think trump might clean things up. He wont take any shit from the Chinese, he won't go starting wars but he will throw their asses right out if they don't act right. Along with the illegals, he he.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #22096256 - 08/15/15 07:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I had a terrible nightmare last night. I was at the press conference where a Trump produced MMORPG was announced.  It was fucking terrifying. Seriously fucked up shit.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22096519 - 08/15/15 09:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've voted every election since I registered back in high school.
Elections are bullshit, I really don't care who gets into office. Trump would be entertaining.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Bitter Cactus] * 3
    #22096530 - 08/15/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The only people rooting for Trump are dumb conservatives, smart liberals, and comedians.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22096534 - 08/15/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Stonehenge said:
Bitchlary would be the worst without a doubt.




lol @ "Bitchlary"


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Niffla]
    #22096538 - 08/15/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)



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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


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With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22096644 - 08/15/15 10:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Atreyu]
    #22096974 - 08/15/15 11:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

nooooo, noooo, no no no no no....

that being said, he is making a total mockery of the American political system, specifically the GOP, so I mean, at least it's entertaining?


Also whenever I see these types of exaggerated characters/personas that people have - especially IRL, but celebrities like Trump to...I just can't help but wonder if it's all an elaborate ruse.

I mean, that guy can't really be pursing his lips like that and saying all that shit, and wearing that hair piece and not laughing at all our stupid asses and going 'gotcha' in private?

..right?


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: pirate-blues]
    #22097026 - 08/15/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've been somewhat fascinated by his hair.  Here is a man who is sooo fucking rich, and yet, he has that cringey hair.

I use to think it had to be a toupee but I could very well see it being an Advanced & complicated comb over that's grown out to hide a  mature or partially receding hairline. 

A bald head would actually fit him really well I think, makes me wonder if he had a hair transplant a long time ago and is covering up a scar.

If it was a toupee I think the texture would look a lot more natural.





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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Atreyu]
    #22097028 - 08/15/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I've pondered that many a time myself. I think he just runs with it to keep with his IDGAF persona.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Atreyu]
    #22097035 - 08/16/15 12:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)




IT really is something else.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Atreyu]
    #22097039 - 08/16/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

There was totally a Nickelodeon cartoon where some guys hair took on a life of it's own and started telling him to do fucked up shit(johnny bravo? idk..)


Now that, is a situation I could wrap my head around when it comes to Trump :uhoh:


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Atreyu] * 1
    #22097045 - 08/16/15 12:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)




..... I.. I can't stop...


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Atreyu]
    #22097251 - 08/16/15 01:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Anyone who is going to pull the lever on amnesty and open borders must not be voted in. This is in fact NOT what the majority wants, and it is being pushed and sold as if that is the case. It's still early, but thank god Trump has sounded off on illegal immigration considering nobody else is or would.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Astral Pain]
    #22097295 - 08/16/15 01:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Astral Pain said:
Anyone who is going to pull the lever on amnesty and open borders must not be voted in. This is in fact NOT what the majority wants, and it is being pushed and sold as if that is the case. It's still early, but thank god Trump has sounded off on illegal immigration considering nobody else is or would.



That doesn't really mean much though. I'd say he's just taking a different strategy. I've seen time and time again how a president promises what he's going to do, and then is elected, and then totally reneges on what he said he was going to do. Actually pretty much all politicians do this. Campaign promises are what get them the votes.

So I don't really believe he's going to be any different despite how vocal he's being on a subject that could very well cost him the election. I think he's just banking on the fact that a very high portion or even a majority of Americans want to see a tougher stance on immigration and illegals. I don't buy for a second he's going to actually do anything about it if elected.

The only way I can see around this is if it's his own personal agenda, and I honestly don't know enough about his political beliefs to make any sound judgement on what his own agenda is. It does work both ways though. I 100% believe Hilary will crack down on gun control if she's elected. That's far from the only reason I don't want her as President, but I'd be lying if I said it has only a minimal impact. This is a major issue these days.

Guns are not the problem. The problem is crazy people who want to commit mass murder. How is that important? Well the fact that she wants to crack down on it, and is likely to do so, proves she doesn't have the first bit of understanding why all these mass shootings happen. This is a very basic concept and even I understand this. If she's not capable of realizing/admitting what I know, how much further is this ignorance going to go? You can't fix a problem until you understand why it is a problem. This is a very simple problem to understand (though I will grant it's not an easy one to fix) and she seemingly doesn't even understand this. She is no doubt going to face much more difficult problems.

I really see no ideal candidate. I'm not an avid politic follower, but I have read up a bit about every one of them as they've came up, and they all have major flaws. Usually in elections I at least have some idea on who I'd like to see as president, I really cannot come up with one this time.


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Shroomslip] * 1
    #22097524 - 08/16/15 04:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It's too early to really get a handle on anybody's game plan, but Trump saying what the silent majority is thinking has him out in front. The nation is really getting tired of being lied to and having all these mystery laws whizzing by without a whisper of info to the public. That type of shit's tyrannical and shouldn't be happening in this country with our constitution.

Everyone is flocking to Trump because he's the opposite of what everyone is used to. I honestly think if we elect a democrat or rino this time around, here comes amnesty/open borders and it's over Johnny. We will have had OUR country handed away for democrat voters and cheap labor. 

I wont drone on about politics here, but the fix is in with the republican party selling out since last years midterm. It is now common knowledge for those who are informed that 'We the People" no longer have any representation, and Trump is seen as the last bastion of hope to save this nation.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Astral Pain]
    #22097562 - 08/16/15 04:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Astral Pain said:
It's too early to really get a handle on anybody's game plan



This is not only a terrifying thought, but what I believe to be a major problem in how we do things. We shouldn't be only figuring this shit out last minute (yes a little more than a year away, but in something like this, that is last minute). I get why things are the way they are, and why my idealistic opinion isn't practical, but I think the candidates should be determined years ahead of time. It's one thing to go back and look up quotes or articles or whatever and try to make a rational decision, it's another to eye a candidate you think conforms to what you want to see in charge, and be able to keep an eye on them over the "long term" (I use that loosely) to spot issues you might of never realized otherwise. This system leads to uninformed and hasty decisions.

It can be difficult holding a certain image for a year or so, but it's not all impossible. When you tack on another 3-7 (depending on if a president runs 2 terms and that the former candidates retain their place in the running) years, it's a lot easier to spot the faults.

As it stands, the general population has no idea on who to keep their eye on for the next election, until the next election is damn near on top of us. We can't just watch everyone who might even have a shot at running. List is way too expansive. I mean honestly, FFS, I never would have guessed Trump would ever be in the running.


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22097593 - 08/16/15 05:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think all it really takes is a few changes to the ways things are being run right now to make a huge improvement, and unless we steer clear of those who are going to keep doing the same thing , we're doomed. There's seems to be a concerted effort to destroy this country on multiple levels, and once that stops we will be in good shape.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Astral Pain]
    #22097599 - 08/16/15 05:33 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

problem is congress, too many people are involved in passing laws.  Lots of people = lots of chances to bribe.  We really need to switch to a putin type system and just hope whoever gets into power has a big ego and a big heart.  that way he can pass laws nobody likes and not care, yet do so with the best of intentions


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22097620 - 08/16/15 05:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not giving congress any props, but things were designed to move slow so things don't get rushed through. The slow process and different branches are in place so there's a less likelyhood for a few bunch to grab all the power. That happens when your president has a phone and a pen, and wont hesitate for a second to executive action some law through that nobody has had time to look at.

We don't need more laws, we need better ones that have been given the proper time to process through. So many people jumping on congress and applauding the pres for his phone and pen, it's saddening.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Astral Pain] * 1
    #22097633 - 08/16/15 05:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

but every law that makes it to a presidents desk boils down to hundreds of bribes.  how does "proper time to process and make better laws" come into play?

the only way to beat the bribing system is to have a 1 man operation.  1 man will need no bribes as he would be getting all of congress and the house income, which should come to at least 1/4th what the bribes were which id assume would be enough to pass laws with a clear conscious.

look at putin and what he is getting done over in russia, he's basically turned russia into what america used to be like 40 years ago, the dudes a genius, thats what we need


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22097656 - 08/16/15 06:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The system is polluted with all sorts of add on amendments to all laws, but it's better to have things move slow with people fighting to point all these things out. Things have gotten out of hand as far as trying to skirt around the constitution and keep the public in the dark. We need things to operate the way they should and we'll be just fine. The constitution is the friend of WE THE PEOPLE, and we're losing it. We need to get back to basics.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Astral Pain]
    #22097664 - 08/16/15 06:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22097688 - 08/16/15 06:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I have always supporte Trump for president.

THe Republican party is in disarray. They so disagree with the Democrats that they lost their minds. You have the fucking Tea Party in there that threw common sense away. You've got the "Jesus says" crowd tangled up in there too. Then you have the "being poor is a crime" bunch.... The proof that the party is all fucked up is the fact that 20 of them think they can be president... How can 20 people of the same party have 20 different idea of what the party should stand for? Complete disarray

Trump saw that and decided that he was gonna do a hostile takeover of the Republicans and rewrite the party lines entirely. Which of course, he has managed to do in 2 weeks... He is the most moderate Republican of the field. He's hitting it off with the Republican base that was completely unsatified with the chaos of the Republican party. He will no doubt get the ticket. I've been listening to his speeches and every day he adds another drop in the bucket policy wise and as of now, none of his policies are impossible to pull off and god forbid I'm saying this, they actually make sense... Mexico has been invading america on person at a time. The illegals are everywhere. They broke the law from the get go, they are undocumented, they are taken advantage of when they want work, some of them are borderline hostages to the guy who brought them in the country. Let's end that shit show.

As for America bleeding money because of Mexico and China... 100% true. And its not just the US too. Car factories all across Canada have been leaving for Mexico... Mexico should be taken out of NAFTA. Fuck, I don't even consider Mexico to be part of North America in the first place. As for China, they are fucking the entire world over with the currency manipulation. For those who don't know how that works, it's simple, keep the value of your money cheap so people have no choice but to buy there. Plus, when's the last time you actually spoke to someone that speaks english when you call customer sevice of wherever? Its fucking annoying. How come Americans are out of work when there's so much work to be done? Because every god damm company are leaving.

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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22097702 - 08/16/15 06:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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money talks, bullshitution walks




Just as long as it happens slowly so it can be detected and pointed out.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: MilkdudTitties]
    #22097825 - 08/16/15 07:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Astral Pain]
    #22097916 - 08/16/15 08:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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It's too early to really get a handle on anybody's game plan, but Trump saying what the silent majority is thinking has him out in front. The nation is really getting tired of being lied to and having all these mystery laws whizzing by without a whisper of info to the public. That type of shit's tyrannical and shouldn't be happening in this country with our constitution.

Everyone is flocking to Trump because he's the opposite of what everyone is used to. I honestly think if we elect a democrat or rino this time around, here comes amnesty/open borders and it's over Johnny. We will have had OUR country handed away for democrat voters and cheap labor. 

I wont drone on about politics here, but the fix is in with the republican party selling out since last years midterm. It is now common knowledge for those who are informed that 'We the People" no longer have any representation, and Trump is seen as the last bastion of hope to save this nation.




There are a bunch of great posts in this thread since last night. This is possibly the best or sums it up the best. People are so fed up with being treated like sheep, like dumb animals that anyone who talks to them straight is a breath of fresh air. Unfortunately, they do act like sheep much of the time even though they resent being herded and lied to so it will be hard for trump to overcome that. The only way I can see him getting past both the media and the dem/ illegal voter base is if bitchlary gets mortally wounded and drops out late or goes on and suffers the death of 1000 cuts by the legal process giving trump a walk over. That assumes of course he can pass the first hurdle of getting the nomination.

I don't see him being the messiah, he may be in it to grab all the bribes, that is possible too. Even rich people want more and more money. But he gives the sense that he tells the truth, tells it at least like he sees it and damn the torpedoes. But the torpedoes will come, the media is just warming up and the dirt digging machines are not even in high gear yet. While they give an obumble or a hitlery the whitewash and free pass, they will use the microscope on a trump and hound him like a pack of hunting dogs nipping at him day and night. Him vs hill+billy with an indictment would work or possibly vs biden who is a goof but will be seen as a safe goof, a liberal, a dem and will of course get the blessing of the media. I see biden as a tougher opponent than hitlery but sanders would be a great opponent for trump.

They give drivers licenses to illegals now in California and then send all drivers a voting ballot. You can't make up stuff like that, as johnny carson use to say.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Patlal]
    #22097930 - 08/16/15 08:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I have always supporte Trump for president.

THe Republican party is in disarray. They so disagree with the Democrats that they lost their minds. You have the fucking Tea Party in there that threw common sense away. You've got the "Jesus says" crowd tangled up in there too. Then you have the "being poor is a crime" bunch.... The proof that the party is all fucked up is the fact that 20 of them think they can be president... How can 20 people of the same party have 20 different idea of what the party should stand for? Complete disarray

Trump saw that and decided that he was gonna do a hostile takeover of the Republicans and rewrite the party lines entirely. Which of course, he has managed to do in 2 weeks... He is the most moderate Republican of the field. He's hitting it off with the Republican base that was completely unsatified with the chaos of the Republican party. He will no doubt get the ticket. I've been listening to his speeches and every day he adds another drop in the bucket policy wise and as of now, none of his policies are impossible to pull off and god forbid I'm saying this, they actually make sense... Mexico has been invading america on person at a time. The illegals are everywhere. They broke the law from the get go, they are undocumented, they are taken advantage of when they want work, some of them are borderline hostages to the guy who brought them in the country. Let's end that shit show.

As for America bleeding money because of Mexico and China... 100% true. And its not just the US too. Car factories all across Canada have been leaving for Mexico... Mexico should be taken out of NAFTA. Fuck, I don't even consider Mexico to be part of North America in the first place. As for China, they are fucking the entire world over with the currency manipulation. For those who don't know how that works, it's simple, keep the value of your money cheap so people have no choice but to buy there. Plus, when's the last time you actually spoke to someone that speaks english when you call customer sevice of wherever? Its fucking annoying. How come Americans are out of work when there's so much work to be done? Because every god damm company are leaving.

Fuck free trade. How  about fair trade for a change?




Good post, and there's nothing "free" about the trade we do. Other countries have tariffs and the US doesn't.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: qman]
    #22098105 - 08/16/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: qman]
    #22098107 - 08/16/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yes we do.

http://www.businessinsider.com/americas-biggest-tariffs-2010-9

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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22098418 - 08/16/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i am not surprised at OP one bit

other posts of his are posing as a police officer and saying how shitty of a drug weed is


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: 404]
    #22098429 - 08/16/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

anyway, the very idea of trump even having any chance of winning an election is laughable at best. the fact that he's even allowed to run is completely ludicrous and rather embarrassing and says a lot about the current state of our nation's mentality. it's pretty sad.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: 404]
    #22098468 - 08/16/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You just have to be a natural citizen and over, I believe, 35.  Anybody who meets those qualification can run.  Let's not turn into Iran.  I hate Trump and think weed is a shitty drug but I don't impersonate cops.

I don't think he has a chance in hell of winning the election and hope desperately that he doesn't get the nomination.  Any woman who votes for him is a moron.  I think he has probably topped out.  He has giant name recognition.  That's it.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: 404]
    #22098918 - 08/16/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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anyway, the very idea of trump even having any chance of winning an election is laughable at best. the fact that he's even allowed to run is completely ludicrous and rather embarrassing and says a lot about the current state of our nation's mentality. it's pretty sad.




I think its refreshing, I too doubt he would win unless hill-billy gets mortally wounded by the investigation and fades in the stretch. I also doubt he will get the nomination but I like what he is saying. He is forcing the phony politicians to at least talk about those things.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22098942 - 08/16/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't hate hillary
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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Konyap]
    #22099051 - 08/16/15 02:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I agree BC. He is a fool but he makes everyone else look like fools too.
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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22100189 - 08/16/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yes we do.

http://www.businessinsider.com/americas-biggest-tariffs-2010-9

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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: qman]
    #22100198 - 08/16/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

>They're not sufficient, a $500 billion trade deficit per year proves that fact.

True, and president trump will fix that fast. Now that hitlery is out of the picture, trump coasts to the win.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22100211 - 08/16/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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>They're not sufficient, a $500 billion trade deficit per year proves that fact.

True, and president trump will fix that fast. Now that hitlery is out of the picture, trump coasts to the win.




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    #22100224 - 08/16/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yes we do.

http://www.businessinsider.com/americas-biggest-tariffs-2010-9

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The International Trade Commission lists over 12,000 specific tariffs on imports to America. Hundreds of agricultural, textile, and manufacturing items are highly protected.







They're not sufficient, a $500 billion trade deficit per year proves that fact.





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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22100226 - 08/16/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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>They're not sufficient, a $500 billion trade deficit per year proves that fact.

True, and president trump will fix that fast. Now that hitlery is out of the picture, trump coasts to the win.




How the fuck does the President and Congress get away with it every year?  The sheep are asleep.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22100237 - 08/16/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yes we do.

http://www.businessinsider.com/americas-biggest-tariffs-2010-9

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The International Trade Commission lists over 12,000 specific tariffs on imports to America. Hundreds of agricultural, textile, and manufacturing items are highly protected.







They're not sufficient, a $500 billion trade deficit per year proves that fact.





You want more tariffs?




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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: qman]
    #22100248 - 08/16/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If china and other places pull crap on us, we retaliate. Yes, tariffs too, I would like to see less Chinese crap flooding our shores. Can you say president trump?


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: qman]
    #22100278 - 08/16/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've been hearing about the trade deficit for decades and it never amounts to shit and never causes a problem.  Answer the fucking question.  Do you want more tariffs?


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #22100286 - 08/16/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Your reading comprehension is worse than I thought.

>Yes, tariffs too,


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    #22100293 - 08/16/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I've been hearing about the trade deficit for decades and it never amounts to shit and never causes a problem.  Answer the fucking question.  Do you want more tariffs?




"never causes a problem"

Yes it does, unemployment and wealth inequality.

"want more tariffs?"

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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: qman]
    #22100302 - 08/16/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Oh so you are a protectionist crony "capitalist" who would choose to make consumers pay more for their products.


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    #22100322 - 08/16/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Oh so you are a protectionist crony "capitalist" who would choose to make consumers pay more for their products.




Maybe some products would move higher in price, but a higher percentage of consumers would be working and the dependency on handouts from the government would be reduced, remember how America used to operate.

There's nothing capitalistic about importing products from third world nations using slave labor and a manipulated currency.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22100326 - 08/16/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I am definitely voting for Trump. I'm certainly not interested in voting dem this time around. Their only two candidates who are getting any press and any support in polls are both terrible. One is a self-described socialist, #nuffsaid. The other has so many scandals surrounding her that I literally don't believe a word that comes out of her mouth. Her actions regarding her pirvate email server can mean 1 of 2 things. She either is A: A complete liar who intentionally operated off of a private email to dodge freedom of information act requests because she was planning from the beginning to send emails she didn't want the public to see or B: An incompetant dope that can't follow the simplest of directions! Imagine someone who can't follow the directions of a simple email account trying to be commander and chief. What a joke. Dems suck this time around, hopefully biden jumps in. I liked a few of the republicans a couple months back, namely trump, paul and rubio. Rubio turned out to be way too socially conservative. No exceptions for abortions? Really? Paul came across as incompetant and easily angered in the debate. He has had hot flashes in the past when being interviewed so this must be a usual thing for him. Plus he went full retard and at one point attacked trump for something he didn't even say during the debate. Trumps response was killer. Trump overall is the best candidate IMO. He isn't yet another bought and paid for politician who will just pander to what the donors tell him to do. He actually released a brilliant article about his immigration policy today, it really lined up with pretty much all my thoughts towards illegal immigration. For all of those who are saying that Trump is in this for his own gain, please explain to me how you come to that conclusion. Trump will be taking a massive paycut if he is elected! Massive! He has always strived for excellence in his personal life and I believe he is content with his fiscal situation and would like to apply that excellence with the american people and help us get our fair slice of it. Actually listen to trump! His economic ideas are surprisngly moderate and I think our economy would see huge gains if he was elected. Trump really is just the best all around and I want to vomit at the thought of bush the third or clinton the second.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Webster10]
    #22100348 - 08/16/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Trump will not be the nominee.  The only reason he is leading is because there are 15 other candidates.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22100536 - 08/16/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

D.Trump makes a great name for repug potty by showing how narcistic their agena truly is ,  i remember the guy as being a screaming asshole since I was a little kid when I watched him giving orders on his dickhead TV show , I've always hated him ... Way before I was a left nut .

The shroomery sounds hella repug with all this obummer and hillary hating and trump loving  lol  have the drugs clouded up our minds  to the point we can't  remember how great the 90s were .. mainily because of Bill Clinton and democratic policies ? I didnt think drugs were that bad , maybe the republicans should focus more on legalizing drugs opposed to criminalizing them. It increases the chances of their votes.

Repbublicans dont represent the interests for a progressive country instead they only think about progressing their business/campaign and whether it makes money or not.

. I think we as a country still want to progress, but possibly im wrong.

We could progress into another trash ridden gutter like we did once we elected our last republican preisdent  gw bush ,  that's still progress. 

We could live  so great with president who's a banker and great with hoarding whoops I meen saving money, Instead our country is doing so horrible with a nigger crayon for president in 2015.
Obama is a crayon who can't even color between the lines. he just messes up what would've been a picture of beutiful scenery , beautiful scenery of old white male nostalgia.

I understand the principal of getting your anger off on who your mad at , but when my anger is derived from faux news propaganda or some tin foil conspiriacy its time to second Guess myself.because I'm notmsure if its real or not.

The California drought is fake , george bush bombed towers lol , JayZ is part of the illuminati lmao its all stupid but fun to talk about.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: JayZ Morgan]
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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Bitter Cactus] * 1
    #22101216 - 08/17/15 12:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Hilary Clinton gives off cunt vibes to me.



true all these people talking shit on the Donald will vote for cunt face Hilary

I want trump to kick all the gd illegals out...will be nice to have some room on the skreets


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22101218 - 08/17/15 12:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: lowbrow]
    #22101227 - 08/17/15 01:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Donald Trump will definitely pick up the low intelligence vote for sure.  He might end up being our next president.  That possibility scares me.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: lowbrow]
    #22101236 - 08/17/15 01:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

so youre pro Hilary then?

or pro creepy biden?

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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #22101249 - 08/17/15 01:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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so youre pro Hilary then?

or pro creepy biden?

:lol:





I would vote for neither.

But I would rather see Hillary over Donald(filed for bankruptcy four times even though I was a billionaire) Trump.  Do you know what rhymes with Trump?  Chump!  And that's what you'll be if you vote for him.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Doctor Sponge] * 1
    #22101250 - 08/17/15 01:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

A racist, sexist, homophobe and misantrope walk into a bar. The bartender asks: "What will it be mr Trump?"

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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Asante] * 1
    #22101268 - 08/17/15 01:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I like how he wants to boot all the illegals out

my god it would be so much nicer without these damn illegal aliens clogging shit up

asanti you live in Holland

give it a few years and you will be living under sharia law

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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #22101300 - 08/17/15 01:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Trump literally doesn't give a shit about what he does or what he says. And while I admit it's fucking hilarious, that isn't someone I want running the country I live in. I will never vote for him.

Bernie sanders is probably gonna be the one I'm voting for. He has great views and I agree with all of them but maybe one. He's been a man for the people all his life. He passed Hillary in the state of New Hampshire, and I think another state, can't remember though.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Achillita]
    #22101416 - 08/17/15 03:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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my god it would be so much nicer without these damn illegal aliens clogging shit up





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    #22101424 - 08/17/15 04:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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asanti you live in Holland

give it a few years and you will be living under sharia law




It's funny how you pass your 'expert' judgement on a country you couldn't probably even point out on a map, let alone understand how it works. Try again.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Asante]
    #22101425 - 08/17/15 04:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I will, for the first time in my life become a registered voter if trump goes on and independent ticket

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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Doctor Sponge]
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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Asante]
    #22101474 - 08/17/15 04:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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my god it would be so much nicer without these damn illegal aliens clogging shit up





Funny you should say that, the Native Americans say the same thing:






:lol: Nice point, but that picture is really inaccurate on where the tribes were located and the land they owned.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Achillita]
    #22101542 - 08/17/15 05:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Did they in fact feel that they owned any land though? I thought that was kind of the point, that they didn't see it that way.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: koraks]
    #22101576 - 08/17/15 06:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The concept of ownership was different. Usually in the majority of tribes, the land was yours as long as you live on and use it. If you were to leave for a long period of time, the land, or even your house could be taken. The concept of ownership played in with the use. But it was common belief no one truly "owned" anything.

But saying that because they didn't "own" the land doesn't justify the forced movement of tribes, or the decimation of whole peoples. I mean, my tribe were long standing allies with the US, and we were forced to walk the trail of tears.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Achillita]
    #22101597 - 08/17/15 06:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Oh I didn't mean it in terms of justification for driving them away. Interestingly, a similar rule regarding ownership was decreed in the Roman Empire as its armies grew and less Romans were in a position to tend to their land. If it was left fallow for too long, any Roman citizen could take possession of it provided they started using it for food production. Many large estates were established that way. Again, a similar rule seems to have been in place in Palestinian territories. I think the Israelis actually made use of that rule to establish the settlements that are disputed today.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: koraks]
    #22101619 - 08/17/15 06:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

american politics should never be taken for more than what it is: an entertaining "reality"/freak show

regardless of my opinion of him as a person, trump has been an entertaining addition to the japes this year


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Asante]
    #22101878 - 08/17/15 08:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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my god it would be so much nicer without these damn illegal aliens clogging shit up





Funny you should say that, the Native Americans say the same thing:







Sorry, but that line of reasoning just doesn't cut it. We live in 2015 and the majority of the American people want illegals out of the US.

Also, Trump's newly released immigration plan calls for the children of illegals born in the US to be deported as well.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/16/politics/donald-trump-immigration-plans/index.html?eref=rss_topstories


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: qman]
    #22101893 - 08/17/15 08:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Sorry, but that line of reasoning just doesn't cut it.




Thats because you place yourself and your rights over those of others, the indigenous population of the USA. You are the conquerer, with superior firepower, so you dictate reality.

That doesn't make it right.

The Native Americans have as much right to speak out against all immigrants (including the white settlers) as for instance the Native Dutch have against our current wave of immigrants.

The white settlers are very much illegal immigrants because they replaced the laws of the land with their own.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Asante]
    #22101919 - 08/17/15 09:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I will vote for anycanidate thats serious about getting the united States of Space off the ground. I mean Ive been waiting my whole life for it. Once we start the United States of Space I can move out there like the pioneers of the old west. Then jus start opening everything we have here but in space with legal weed. Open a hotel saloon brothel all the space essentials. Eventually Ill work toward building a ranch and raising space cows. Then ill jus ride off into the sunset or whatever it is in space.



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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Achillita]
    #22102386 - 08/17/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The concept of ownership was different. Usually in the majority of tribes, the land was yours as long as you live on and use it. If you were to leave for a long period of time, the land, or even your house could be taken. The concept of ownership played in with the use. But it was common belief no one truly "owned" anything.

But saying that because they didn't "own" the land doesn't justify the forced movement of tribes, or the decimation of whole peoples. I mean, my tribe were long standing allies with the US, and we were forced to walk the trail of tears.



The land was yours if you could keep another tribe from taking it.  It wasn't all rainbows and unicorns.  They fought each other constantly and took and kept slaves, especially women.  Like ISIS does.  Romanticizing them is stupid.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22102440 - 08/17/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I didn't read that as an attempt to romanticize it. I think it's quite obvious these people could be very violent as well


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Asante]
    #22102545 - 08/17/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Sorry, but that line of reasoning just doesn't cut it.




Thats because you place yourself and your rights over those of others, the indigenous population of the USA. You are the conquerer, with superior firepower, so you dictate reality.

That doesn't make it right.

The Native Americans have as much right to speak out against all immigrants (including the white settlers) as for instance the Native Dutch have against our current wave of immigrants.

The white settlers are very much illegal immigrants because they replaced the laws of the land with their own.



Moronity.  Every nation on earth is the product of conquest.  The fucking indians were immigrants themselves.  Tough shit.  They lost.  They aren't doing themselves any favors by staying on reservations.  They don't have to, you know.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: koraks]
    #22102551 - 08/17/15 12:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I didn't read that as an attempt to romanticize it. I think it's quite obvious these people could be very violent as well



There is no could be about it.  They were.  They lost.  Tough shit.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22102664 - 08/17/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22102667 - 08/17/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, there's a 'could be' about. No single race or tribe in human history has been violent 100% of the time. Everyone is at peace at some point. That's the 'could be' I meant. Not that they might or might not have been at war with each other frequently. Kind of obvious that they were.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: koraks]
    #22102741 - 08/17/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Who is at war constantly? 

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    #22102749 - 08/17/15 01:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Who is at war constantly? 




Nobody is. That's the point. Read your response to my 'could be' post again and my response to yours.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: koraks]
    #22102822 - 08/17/15 01:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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    #22102838 - 08/17/15 01:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: qman]
    #22102841 - 08/17/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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my god it would be so much nicer without these damn illegal aliens clogging shit up





Funny you should say that, the Native Americans say the same thing:







Sorry, but that line of reasoning just doesn't cut it. We live in 2015 and the majority of the American people want illegals out of the US.

Also, Trump's newly released immigration plan calls for the children of illegals born in the US to be deported as well.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/16/politics/donald-trump-immigration-plans/index.html?eref=rss_topstories



the fact you referred to that as a plan is laughable in of itself. the man is a joke and any policy he attempts would only make sense to an invalid.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: koraks]
    #22102852 - 08/17/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:facepalm:


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #22102858 - 08/17/15 01:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I like how he wants to boot all the illegals out

my god it would be so much nicer without these damn illegal aliens clogging shit up

asanti you live in Holland

give it a few years and you will be living under sharia law

and you wont last long once that happens




I wish we could make this specific type of jab against the rules. It is so cheap and low. "at least I am willing to tolerate your queer existence, unlike those violent farners". I can't think of many things one could say to be more crassly insulting.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #22102861 - 08/17/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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qman said:
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my god it would be so much nicer without these damn illegal aliens clogging shit up





Funny you should say that, the Native Americans say the same thing:







Sorry, but that line of reasoning just doesn't cut it. We live in 2015 and the majority of the American people want illegals out of the US.

Also, Trump's newly released immigration plan calls for the children of illegals born in the US to be deported as well.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/16/politics/donald-trump-immigration-plans/index.html?eref=rss_topstories



the fact you referred to that as a plan is laughable in of itself. the man is a joke and any policy he attempts would only make sense to an invalid.




Actually the plan is very sensible, I doubt you even bothered to read it. 

Just because Trump isn't the best person, it doesn't invalidate his positions.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
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my god it would be so much nicer without these damn illegal aliens clogging shit up





Funny you should say that, the Native Americans say the same thing:







Sorry, but that line of reasoning just doesn't cut it. We live in 2015 and the majority of the American people want illegals out of the US.

Also, Trump's newly released immigration plan calls for the children of illegals born in the US to be deported as well.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/16/politics/donald-trump-immigration-plans/index.html?eref=rss_topstories



the fact you referred to that as a plan is laughable in of itself. the man is a joke and any policy he attempts would only make sense to an invalid.




That's insulting to invalids. Trump only makes sense to those who are specifically suffering from senile dementia in addition to that


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: koraks]
    #22102880 - 08/17/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It was a nonsequitur.  They were often at war taking slaves from and killing other tribes.  They were quite warlike.  Except for maybe the Hopi.


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    #22102892 - 08/17/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Actually the plan is very sensible, I doubt you even bothered to read it. 

Just because Trump isn't the best person, it doesn't invalidate his positions.




I think he is an egregious asshole and his plan doesn't go far enough.  Kick all of the motherfuckers out immediately.  Sadly he will never get the Constitutional amendment needed to throw out the fucking anchor babies but they shouldn't be considered anchors anyway.  Throw the fucking illegal parents out and the babies will probably follow.


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    #22102898 - 08/17/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

trump knows business and hopefully could help deal with our countries massive debt - between that and how up front he seems to be about his views it would be a refreshing feeling knowing what our president is thinking about, even if its a stupid thought

shit bush made it as president for 2 terms and arnold shwartzanigger was californias gov for years and we even got a black guy in office, Trump becoming president is actually pretty plausible


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    #22102900 - 08/17/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

yea Q mexico totally going to pay for a wall, win win win all around, and boot out all the illegals, and the kids win win win.

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yea Q mexico totally going to pay for a wall, win win win all around, and boot out all the illegals, and the kids win win win.

don't know how i missed how full of sense that is. :hmm:




Nobody gives a fuck who pays for it, when you deport blood sucking leeches, it's a financial win for everyone in the US.

The plan is very simple, deport all illegals and their children and make sure that border is super tight.


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http://hotair.com/archives/2010/08/13/harry-reid-tried-to-end-birthright-citizenship-for-illegals-in-1993/

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yea Q mexico totally going to pay for a wall, win win win all around, and boot out all the illegals, and the kids win win win.

don't know how i missed how full of sense that is. :hmm:




Nobody gives a fuck who pays for it, when you deport blood sucking leeches, it's a financial win for everyone in the US.

The plan is very simple, deport all illegals and their children and make sure that border is super tight.




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I will vote for anycanidate thats serious about getting the united States of Space off the ground. I mean Ive been waiting my whole life for it. Once we start the United States of Space I can move out there like the pioneers of the old west. Then jus start opening everything we have here but in space with legal weed. Open a hotel saloon brothel all the space essentials. Eventually Ill work toward building a ranch and raising space cows. Then ill jus ride off into the sunset or whatever it is in space.






This is gonna be so awesome :datass: It's gonna be just like Cowboy Bebop.


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    #22103009 - 08/17/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

no ive never watched that but this is totally real n serious ok


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Cowboy Bebop is awesome and if you watched it you'd know that it is the way things must be :sadyes:


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dont like anime what happens? Isnt a chimp the main character in that?


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trump knows business and hopefully could help deal with our countries massive debt - between that and how up front he seems to be about his views it would be a refreshing feeling knowing what our president is thinking about, even if its a stupid thought

shit bush made it as president for 2 terms and arnold shwartzanigger was californias gov for years and we even got a black guy in office, Trump becoming president is actually pretty plausible




Finally a voice of sanity amidst all the loony left ranting and general bs. I would love to see trump win, second best would be for his ideas to take hold with whoever does win. Third best would be some other anti-establishment figure to win

I will laugh my ass off if he gets the nomination and wins because hitlery, you guys fav person, goes down due to her stupid blunders. Looks like she will. Trump is way ahead in the nomination race, everything is in place. I look forward to the moonbats going nuts in '16.

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dont like anime what happens? Isnt a chimp the main character in that?




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oh man LOL im thinking summin totally different


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trump knows business and hopefully could help deal with our countries massive debt




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    #22103066 - 08/17/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I dont think trump is even a real person. I think like back in the mid to early 90's the real trump died and off his body they made a bunch of wax casts that they used to mold a ton of trump suits that like a handful of actors wear at different times. The evidence is everywhere. the trumps are real.


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Trump is an animatronic.


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no dewd its a plasticine suit with live actors


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thats why u never see the trumps under hot lights


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Well, as long as we can agree that thing is not a normal human being.


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its a group of people obv


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You guys are going to go nuts when he wins. There will be a line at every bridge of people wanting to jump off. It will be fun to watch.


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    #22103114 - 08/17/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:lol: im gonna make my way to the royal gorge bridge to watch the insanity






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trumps is in the same vien as a bush cheney ticket hell throw cheney in the mix fuck it


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why the fuck not - people (including cheney) had their hand up bushes ass so far he was practically their puppet


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i mean the bush cabinet was probably the most currupt we've seen in redic years


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trump is a fascist idiot with reductionist views. having anyone like him in office would be a problem for this country.


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trumps is in the same vien as a bush cheney ticket hell throw cheney in the mix fuck it





Not even close, do you even follow politics?


i mean do you care to follow that up with anything? I dont know what you mean?


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    #22103204 - 08/17/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

cant say i disagree with you there


i imagine the real GWBush as he is portrayed in the movie "harold and kumar escape from guantanamo bay"


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http://hotair.com/archives/2010/08/13/harry-reid-tried-to-end-birthright-citizenship-for-illegals-in-1993/

Trump is crazy??    Looks like liberal Harry Reid had the same idea just 20 years ago.  :smilingpuppy:





no bias at all on that site...

so plan is kick them out and build a fence/wall that no one care who pays for!

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    #22103230 - 08/17/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I do believe billions have already been allocated for the wall and the inept government can't figure out how to actually build it.  You shoulld probably be back on the other side yourself.


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    #22103236 - 08/17/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

yeah expecting mexico to pay for that fence is beyond ridiculous - especially when they cant even keep the USAs #1 most wanted man in a fucking facility to save their lives...they never will be able to either, hes got too much money and power and mexicos too poor


what we SHOULD do is have the illegal immigrants from south america build the wall while standing on the mexican side so they just kinda box themselves in


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    #22103242 - 08/17/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You think the trumps are stupid? Its gonna be the same thing a fucking revoling door oh the guy gets appointed does the dirt resigns trumps is gonna be like i fired him what do you want me to do shit idk :shrug:


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trumps a business man and owns a lot of real estate - if he cant get it built than no one can



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The concept of ownership was different. Usually in the majority of tribes, the land was yours as long as you live on and use it. If you were to leave for a long period of time, the land, or even your house could be taken. The concept of ownership played in with the use. But it was common belief no one truly "owned" anything.

But saying that because they didn't "own" the land doesn't justify the forced movement of tribes, or the decimation of whole peoples. I mean, my tribe were long standing allies with the US, and we were forced to walk the trail of tears.



The land was yours if you could keep another tribe from taking it.  It wasn't all rainbows and unicorns.  They fought each other constantly and took and kept slaves, especially women.  Like ISIS does.  Romanticizing them is stupid.



Of course romanticizing natives is stupid, and I don't always agree with it, but it does kinda flatter me.

I can't speak for every tribe, but for the majority of tribes skirmishes were the most common warfare. Losing 5 men a year in battle was pretty common for my tribe unless we were in an all out war. My tribe was a warrior society, it was important for people to be able to protect their tribe.

While many tribes did keep slaves, many did not. Slavery wasn't a common thing in my tribe. In the 1700s, runaway slaves were commonly adopted into the tribe, as with quite a few tribes in the south east.

But my tribe, never once fought the US as a tribe. We were allies ever since they became a country, and a single stupid president dictated the removal of ALL southeastern natives westward into oklahomma.


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trumps a business man and owns a lot of real estate - if he cant get it built than no one can



you think ben carson will?




i know a lot of people who have great minds for business. that doesn't mean they would be effective legislators or executive office holders. it's very pernicious to assume that success in the business world would necessarily lead to success in politics. i would even say that the fascist nature of business, i.e. a "my way or the highway" attitude, might even put someone at a disadvantage.


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    #22103684 - 08/17/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

yeah i see where youre coming from but considering all politicians (minus trump now) ask for funding from millionaires and billionaires for their campaign funds........who did trump go to? oh wait he went to his own bank account and used his own money. so its begging for money for the rest of the candidates from people with the money and power to influence the person they are backing OR if youre like trump you can fund all of your own stuff and dont have to go to the silicon valley begging for money that they have but dont want to put up because its not a guarantee


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trumps a business man and owns a lot of real estate - if he cant get it built than no one can



you think ben carson will?




i know a lot of people who have great minds for business. that doesn't mean they would be effective legislators or executive office holders. it's very pernicious to assume that success in the business world would necessarily lead to success in politics. i would even say that the fascist nature of business, i.e. a "my way or the highway" attitude, might even put someone at a disadvantage.



The President is not a legislator and businessmen are executives.

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yeah i see where youre coming from but considering all politicians (minus trump now) ask for funding from millionaires and billionaires for their campaign funds........who did trump go to? oh wait he went to his own bank account and used his own money. so its begging for money for the rest of the candidates from people with the money and power to influence the person they are backing OR if youre like trump you can fund all of your own stuff and dont have to go to the silicon valley begging for money that they have but dont want to put up because its not a guarantee


its not like we're picking from the best of the best, we're picking who would be less shitty. aint that a bitch




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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22103835 - 08/17/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Bernie Sanders hasn't taken any large amount amount of money from investors.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Achillita]
    #22103921 - 08/17/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

TRUMP:

1. Fuck Mexico
2. Fuck China
3. Fuck the illegals
4. Fuck the lobbyists
5. Fuck free trade
6. Fuck politicians
7. Fuck Iran
8. Fuck the Saudis
9. Fuck Ukraine
10. Fuck ISIS
11. Be selfish
12. Focus on ourselves
13. Fix the country


How is this man not just given the white house?  Seriously guys. A fucking billionaire drops whatever he's doing to manage the country... FUCKING LET HIM ! The man pulled a miracle out of his ass and became what 99.9999999% of us can't become.... How the fuck could this be worse than the last 15 years???? How the fuck can you be worse than Dubya? How can he divide more than Obama? At this point a fucking turtle on its back could be a better president. Doing nothing at all would get better results. Seriously, what is it, like 15 or 20 TRILLION in debt? Who the fuck cares about the actual number at this point? Its bigger than what a human can possibly size up in terms of how much shit you could buy with 15 to 20 trillion dollars.... You can buy the sun and threaten to turn it off if the earth doesn't pay rent... That's how much money it is.

How about you guys elect the guy that has had a schedule as busy as the president's for the last 40 years and already used to dealing with huge numbers? How about you let the guy with 40 years experience is dozens of sector of the economy take over?

Who gives a fuck if he likes the trash talk... He knows how to manage and in the end, that's what counts.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #22103929 - 08/17/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

oh my god patlal. i hope you are trolling.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: 404]
    #22103940 - 08/17/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

He is telling it like it is. President trump, it looks more and more likely.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: 404] * 1
    #22103965 - 08/17/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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oh my god patlal. i hope you are trolling.




He just has to be. PayPal isn't supposed to have this much testosterone.  It's making me feel weird.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22103990 - 08/17/15 06:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

>>paypal

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    #22104008 - 08/17/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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oh my god patlal. i hope you are trolling.




Dude. you're down 3 points in the Superbowl and your on the last play of the game. Do you throw the ball to the rookie fresh off the bench or your MVP? Sure he's a douchebag, but he knows how to catch a ball. So fucking throw him the ball and win the goddamn Superbowl...


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22104011 - 08/17/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I like how he wants to boot all the illegals out

my god it would be so much nicer without these damn illegal aliens clogging shit up

asanti you live in Holland

give it a few years and you will be living under sharia law

and you wont last long once that happens




I wish we could make this specific type of jab against the rules. It is so cheap and low. "at least I am willing to tolerate your queer existence, unlike those violent farners". I can't think of many things one could say to be more crassly insulting.



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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Patlal]
    #22104041 - 08/17/15 07:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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oh my god patlal. i hope you are trolling.




Dude. you're down 3 points in the Superbowl and your on the last play of the game. Do you throw the ball to the rookie fresh off the bench or your MVP? Sure he's a douchebag, but he knows how to catch a ball. So fucking throw him the ball and win the goddamn Superbowl...





presidential candidacy  =/= sports players

trump would be the worst PR move for the country, by far. he would fumble for sure.


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>>paypal

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God damn it :lol:


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22104067 - 08/17/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

He'd throw an interception at the goal line with no time left.

Fuck you sprinkles.  You lost


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    #22104096 - 08/17/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

>trump would be the worst PR move for the country, by far. he would fumble for sure.

No one can fumble more than obumbles. He is the champ at fumbling. It would be nice to see a non professional politician/ leech get in for a change.


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    #22104097 - 08/17/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The President is not a legislator and businessmen are executives.

Do not misconstrue this as me supportining Trump.  I have loathed him for decades




i was speaking in general terms as to include legislators, not just the president. the president does participate in legislation though in that he has veto power and often acts as an envoy to seal the deal on both sides with certain bills. that aside, i was simply stating that success in business does not necessarily equate to political wisdom because business and politics are not the same. we love to elect business elites, and it's not always to our advantage.


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    #22104247 - 08/17/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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oh my god patlal. i hope you are trolling.




Dude. you're down 3 points in the Superbowl and your on the last play of the game. Do you throw the ball to the rookie fresh off the bench or your MVP? Sure he's a douchebag, but he knows how to catch a ball. So fucking throw him the ball and win the goddamn Superbowl...




know your super bowl history before you talk shit you god damn canuck

youre on the 2 yard line with the best running back in the league and you dont even give him a chance to touch the ball and the fairly rookie qb throws a pick in the endzone to end the game and the season and the championship. thats how you play IRL apparently


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    #22104330 - 08/17/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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http://hotair.com/archives/2010/08/13/harry-reid-tried-to-end-birthright-citizenship-for-illegals-in-1993/

Trump is crazy??    Looks like liberal Harry Reid had the same idea just 20 years ago.  :smilingpuppy:





no bias at all on that site...

so plan is kick them out and build a fence/wall that no one care who pays for!

you sir exhibit such brilliance... between you and stonehenge with all his moonbat talk...




Are you slow or something?  Reid introduced a bill that would eliminate birthrights from illegal parents!

Here, is this better?  http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2010/aug/12/1993-flip-flop-senreid-introduced-bill-clarifying-/

Kicking illegals out pays for itself, it's a financial win for all Americans.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22105457 - 08/18/15 05:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Do not misconstrue this as me supporting Trump.





I couldnt help but notice a healthy, robust dislike of the man. :grin:


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