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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Achillita]
    #22101416 - 08/17/15 03:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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my god it would be so much nicer without these damn illegal aliens clogging shit up





Funny you should say that, the Native Americans say the same thing:




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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Doctor Sponge] * 2
    #22101424 - 08/17/15 04:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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asanti you live in Holland

give it a few years and you will be living under sharia law




It's funny how you pass your 'expert' judgement on a country you couldn't probably even point out on a map, let alone understand how it works. Try again.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Asante]
    #22101425 - 08/17/15 04:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I will, for the first time in my life become a registered voter if trump goes on and independent ticket

Trump/Cruz 2016!


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #22101465 - 08/17/15 04:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Asante]
    #22101474 - 08/17/15 04:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Asante said:
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my god it would be so much nicer without these damn illegal aliens clogging shit up





Funny you should say that, the Native Americans say the same thing:






:lol: Nice point, but that picture is really inaccurate on where the tribes were located and the land they owned.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Achillita]
    #22101542 - 08/17/15 05:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Did they in fact feel that they owned any land though? I thought that was kind of the point, that they didn't see it that way.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: koraks]
    #22101576 - 08/17/15 06:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The concept of ownership was different. Usually in the majority of tribes, the land was yours as long as you live on and use it. If you were to leave for a long period of time, the land, or even your house could be taken. The concept of ownership played in with the use. But it was common belief no one truly "owned" anything.

But saying that because they didn't "own" the land doesn't justify the forced movement of tribes, or the decimation of whole peoples. I mean, my tribe were long standing allies with the US, and we were forced to walk the trail of tears.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Achillita]
    #22101597 - 08/17/15 06:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Oh I didn't mean it in terms of justification for driving them away. Interestingly, a similar rule regarding ownership was decreed in the Roman Empire as its armies grew and less Romans were in a position to tend to their land. If it was left fallow for too long, any Roman citizen could take possession of it provided they started using it for food production. Many large estates were established that way. Again, a similar rule seems to have been in place in Palestinian territories. I think the Israelis actually made use of that rule to establish the settlements that are disputed today.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: koraks]
    #22101619 - 08/17/15 06:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

american politics should never be taken for more than what it is: an entertaining "reality"/freak show

regardless of my opinion of him as a person, trump has been an entertaining addition to the japes this year


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Asante]
    #22101878 - 08/17/15 08:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Asante said:
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my god it would be so much nicer without these damn illegal aliens clogging shit up





Funny you should say that, the Native Americans say the same thing:







Sorry, but that line of reasoning just doesn't cut it. We live in 2015 and the majority of the American people want illegals out of the US.

Also, Trump's newly released immigration plan calls for the children of illegals born in the US to be deported as well.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/16/politics/donald-trump-immigration-plans/index.html?eref=rss_topstories


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: qman]
    #22101893 - 08/17/15 08:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Sorry, but that line of reasoning just doesn't cut it.




Thats because you place yourself and your rights over those of others, the indigenous population of the USA. You are the conquerer, with superior firepower, so you dictate reality.

That doesn't make it right.

The Native Americans have as much right to speak out against all immigrants (including the white settlers) as for instance the Native Dutch have against our current wave of immigrants.

The white settlers are very much illegal immigrants because they replaced the laws of the land with their own.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Asante]
    #22101919 - 08/17/15 09:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I will vote for anycanidate thats serious about getting the united States of Space off the ground. I mean Ive been waiting my whole life for it. Once we start the United States of Space I can move out there like the pioneers of the old west. Then jus start opening everything we have here but in space with legal weed. Open a hotel saloon brothel all the space essentials. Eventually Ill work toward building a ranch and raising space cows. Then ill jus ride off into the sunset or whatever it is in space.



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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Achillita]
    #22102386 - 08/17/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The concept of ownership was different. Usually in the majority of tribes, the land was yours as long as you live on and use it. If you were to leave for a long period of time, the land, or even your house could be taken. The concept of ownership played in with the use. But it was common belief no one truly "owned" anything.

But saying that because they didn't "own" the land doesn't justify the forced movement of tribes, or the decimation of whole peoples. I mean, my tribe were long standing allies with the US, and we were forced to walk the trail of tears.



The land was yours if you could keep another tribe from taking it.  It wasn't all rainbows and unicorns.  They fought each other constantly and took and kept slaves, especially women.  Like ISIS does.  Romanticizing them is stupid.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22102440 - 08/17/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I didn't read that as an attempt to romanticize it. I think it's quite obvious these people could be very violent as well


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: Asante]
    #22102545 - 08/17/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Sorry, but that line of reasoning just doesn't cut it.




Thats because you place yourself and your rights over those of others, the indigenous population of the USA. You are the conquerer, with superior firepower, so you dictate reality.

That doesn't make it right.

The Native Americans have as much right to speak out against all immigrants (including the white settlers) as for instance the Native Dutch have against our current wave of immigrants.

The white settlers are very much illegal immigrants because they replaced the laws of the land with their own.



Moronity.  Every nation on earth is the product of conquest.  The fucking indians were immigrants themselves.  Tough shit.  They lost.  They aren't doing themselves any favors by staying on reservations.  They don't have to, you know.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: koraks]
    #22102551 - 08/17/15 12:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I didn't read that as an attempt to romanticize it. I think it's quite obvious these people could be very violent as well



There is no could be about it.  They were.  They lost.  Tough shit.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22102664 - 08/17/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You'd make a wonderful German Putzfrau Zappa :smile:


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22102667 - 08/17/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, there's a 'could be' about. No single race or tribe in human history has been violent 100% of the time. Everyone is at peace at some point. That's the 'could be' I meant. Not that they might or might not have been at war with each other frequently. Kind of obvious that they were.


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: koraks]
    #22102741 - 08/17/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Who is at war constantly? 

And I aint making no kinda frau Asante.  You might but I'm not


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Re: I kind of am rooting for Trump [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22102749 - 08/17/15 01:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Who is at war constantly? 




Nobody is. That's the point. Read your response to my 'could be' post again and my response to yours.


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