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tojosan


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Amanita muscaria confirmation?
#22094627 - 08/15/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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while on my way to pick some p.semilanceata i spied this under a huge pine tree on the road up the hill, really my question is whether anyone can confirm it for me and i was wondering if anyone had any tips on preserving/drying these mushrooms. i had attempted to air dry one last year but was unsuccessful at getting the moisture out it. thanks all!
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Re: Amanita muscaria confirmation? [Re: tojosan]
#22094702 - 08/15/15 12:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yep.
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Re: Amanita muscaria confirmation? [Re: elprawn]
#22094732 - 08/15/15 12:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks! i wasn't really in any doubt that it was, have you any info on preserving them?
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Re: Amanita muscaria confirmation? [Re: tojosan]
#22094742 - 08/15/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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No, I've never preserved or ingested them. Sorry.
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Re: Amanita muscaria confirmation? [Re: elprawn]
#22094757 - 08/15/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dry out like normal in a dehydrator or under a heat lamp and fan, if you wanna eat the whole thing for flavor, cook high heat though.
Peel the skin of the top like an orange toss out the white part. dry the skin with the dots on it under high heat to convert the chemicals, causes less nausea and you need less material to experience same drug like effects.
Once dry store in freezer for up to a year.
Eat for mild longer effect, smoke in a joint or bowl for quick decent high.
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Edited by N05482 (08/15/15 12:54 PM)
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Re: Amanita muscaria confirmation? [Re: N05482]
#22094786 - 08/15/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks a lot! Well i have it in the oven at just under 100 degrees C, it seems to be drying okay! thanks for the info! much appreciated
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Re: Amanita muscaria confirmation? [Re: tojosan]
#22095264 - 08/15/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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beautiful find
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Re: Amanita muscaria confirmation? [Re: Lucis]
#22097616 - 08/16/15 05:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks!!
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Re: Amanita muscaria confirmation? [Re: tojosan]
#22097677 - 08/16/15 06:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I reccomend you read these before you eat any
https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Amanitas.shtml
especially the Train Wrecks and Disasters  seems like a pretty heavy ride
good luck!
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Re: Amanita muscaria confirmation? [Re: keeno]
#22099463 - 08/16/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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thanks for the useful links! im not planning on ingesting them though! not least until i have done a lot more reading, don't know if i have the balls to be honest lol
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Re: Amanita muscaria confirmation? [Re: tojosan] 1
#22099618 - 08/16/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just on personal opinion, the muscaria buzz is hyped far more than it's ever lived up to be. As long as you try a lil piece to make sure your not allergic, I would respect them but don't be scared.
After ingesting 15+ g skins only, prolly 25+ mushrooms worth, I got sleepy had amazing dreams during a nap like vivid as Hell dreams. Then woke up felt kinda drunk but good for lil while. that's as good as it gets for me, tried less and more. Fun in a way but not desirable. Do not even try and compare them with psilocybes.
Smoking the dry skins mixed with a lil weed produces a very unique yet short lived pleasurable high, much more than the weed alone would induce. Yet still it's not pleasurable enough to prefer over just a plain phatty.
Over all they're a nice treat to find cause they're beautiful to look at...
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Re: Amanita muscaria confirmation? [Re: N05482]
#22099635 - 08/16/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for all the info! maybe one day my curiosity will get the better of me haha! how does one get just the skins? do you need to peel it before you dry them? cos i dried it without doing anything to it, i suppose tho i had the intention of preserving it just as a specimin to look at. although now i have looked more into it it seems an interesting thing to have experienced just for yanno, experience lol
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Re: Amanita muscaria confirmation? [Re: tojosan]
#22099667 - 08/16/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yah that's exactly why I tried it, got into mushrooms had to try em all. Felt like a pokemon trainer!
But yah if you want the skins, when they are fresh they peel like an orange, just start at the edge work your way in. Once dry you can still separate them but it's much harder.
Pretty much all the good stuff is in the color. The yellower ones are weaker, the dark red ones are better, the brown ones though if you're lucky enough to find a panther cap are the best.
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Re: Amanita muscaria confirmation? [Re: N05482]
#22099675 - 08/16/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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no way are there brown ones? cos i found an amanita a week or so back that was brown with white specks but i assumed it was a different kind of amanita, there are red ones growing in close proximity to where i found the brown one, ill have a look for the photo just now actually ill post it up
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Re: Amanita muscaria confirmation? [Re: tojosan]
#22099707 - 08/16/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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these were from the side of a gold course where i found gorgeous specimins of A.muscaria lastyear! went to check again and found these, amanita pins and this brown one, i had assumed it was a different species entirely but youve got me excited by the panther cap thing
the red ones
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Re: Amanita muscaria confirmation? [Re: tojosan]
#22100119 - 08/16/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sweet nice find!
Looks like an Aminita Pantherina to me. The top being eaten and so wet without much dots but big white holes looks kinda like a russula but that's just at first glance. But the brownish stipe with bulbous vulva base and the anulus skirt and few lil veil remnants on the cap with bright white gills, say panther cap to me.
I'd wait for a TI before I'd be 100% conclusive. But keep an eye out for more!
Often I find more brown ones in same spot in the spring.
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Re: Amanita muscaria confirmation? [Re: keeno]
#22100523 - 08/16/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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keeno said: I reccomend you read these before you eat any
https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Amanitas.shtml
especially the Train Wrecks and Disasters  seems like a pretty heavy ride
good luck!

I would take any erowid experience report with a grain of salt. Articles on catnip and valerian root are titled: "A rollercoaster ride to the peaks of god's visionscape and free-falling into the oblivion of the human subconciousness".
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Re: Amanita muscaria confirmation? [Re: Bud Fuggins]
#22101208 - 08/17/15 12:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've still yet to try this for it's culinary value (after boiling off the toxins). It is very widely available around where i live. It's one of the mushrooms that i see most frequently and can be sure to find even if i don't know a specific place where it's growing yet, once it's properly in season that is.
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Re: Amanita muscaria confirmation? [Re: tojosan]
#22101213 - 08/17/15 12:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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tojosan said: these were from the side of a gold course where i found gorgeous specimins of A.muscaria lastyear! went to check again and found these, amanita pins and this brown one, i had assumed it was a different species entirely but youve got me excited by the panther cap thing
the red ones

Clear pictures of the intact base of the stem need to be taken for an accurate ID.
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Re: Amanita muscaria confirmation? [Re: tojosan]
#22101325 - 08/17/15 02:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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tojosan said: these were from the side of a gold course where i found gorgeous specimins of A.muscaria lastyear! went to check again and found these, amanita pins and this brown one, i had assumed it was a different species entirely but youve got me excited by the panther cap thing
the red ones

All Amanita rubescens, imo.
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Re: Amanita muscaria confirmation? [Re: elprawn]
#22101412 - 08/17/15 03:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That was my initial reaction too and i posted that but decided to edit that bit out due to the likelihood of being wrong based on the lack of more specific identifying features. Wherever i find A. muscaria i also find A. rubescens. Generally in greater numbers. They are very common around here. Even so I've still yet to try eating them. I don't feel i understand the genus well enough (i don't know much about the majority of species people post on here) even though i think i can ID that particular species so easily. I could ID A. phalloides, and A. virosa is easily avoided due to the obvious colour but the rest i am completely unsure about and i feel like i should be well versed in all the toxic species before attempting consumption of the edible ones. With the exception of A. muscaria of course. The genus itself very is to ID though.
Edited by Untitled (08/17/15 03:57 AM)
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Re: Amanita muscaria confirmation? [Re: Bud Fuggins]
#22101434 - 08/17/15 04:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bud Fuggins said:
I would take any erowid experience report with a grain of salt. Articles on catnip and valerian root are titled: "A rollercoaster ride to the peaks of god's visionscape and free-falling into the oblivion of the human subconciousness".
absolutely. but then you have to take everything from the internets with a pinch of salt, no? 
I think if you read enough of them, you'll get the general jist of what they're about, and what not to do etc. (like eat a shit ton of Datura seeds. Man some of those trips reports are hilarious, in a "ended up being held down by 4 cops whilst the doctor tried to sedate me" kinda way )
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Re: Amanita muscaria confirmation? [Re: Untitled]
#22102494 - 08/17/15 11:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Untitled said: That was my initial reaction too and i posted that but decided to edit that bit out due to the likelihood of being wrong based on the lack of more specific identifying features. Wherever i find A. muscaria i also find A. rubescens. Generally in greater numbers. They are very common around here. Even so I've still yet to try eating them. I don't feel i understand the genus well enough (i don't know much about the majority of species people post on here) even though i think i can ID that particular species so easily. I could ID A. phalloides, and A. virosa is easily avoided due to the obvious colour but the rest i am completely unsure about and i feel like i should be well versed in all the toxic species before attempting consumption of the edible ones. With the exception of A. muscaria of course. The genus itself very is to ID though.
I think I've only ever found Amanita pantherina once. Amanita rubescens seems much more common around my way, near London/Essex. I often find what appears to be Amanita fulva or something similar but I've always been too chicken to try it. I've never tried Amanita rubescens, either.
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Re: Amanita muscaria confirmation? [Re: elprawn]
#22102688 - 08/17/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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elprawn said:
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Untitled said: That was my initial reaction too and i posted that but decided to edit that bit out due to the likelihood of being wrong based on the lack of more specific identifying features. Wherever i find A. muscaria i also find A. rubescens. Generally in greater numbers. They are very common around here. Even so I've still yet to try eating them. I don't feel i understand the genus well enough (i don't know much about the majority of species people post on here) even though i think i can ID that particular species so easily. I could ID A. phalloides, and A. virosa is easily avoided due to the obvious colour but the rest i am completely unsure about and i feel like i should be well versed in all the toxic species before attempting consumption of the edible ones. With the exception of A. muscaria of course. The genus itself very is to ID though.
I think I've only ever found Amanita pantherina once. Amanita rubescens seems much more common around my way, near London/Essex. I often find what appears to be Amanita fulva or something similar but I've always been too chicken to try it. I've never tried Amanita rubescens, either.
A. fulva is extremely common in the forest i visit. It's already around. If it helps, i tried it once (i didn't intend on swallowing it, i just wanted to see if i was missing anything because of how common it is) and to me tasted pretty bad so you're not missing much.
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Re: Amanita muscaria confirmation? [Re: tojosan]
#22102936 - 08/17/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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tojosan said: Thanks! i wasn't really in any doubt that it was, have you any info on preserving them?
Sun dry for 3-5 days and jar once cracker dry. This will ensure the maximum potency of your Amanitas but honesty I've dried them, threw em in a zip lock bag n left em around the house; exposed to light constantly. Still were exceptionally potent 8 months later.
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Re: Amanita muscaria confirmation? [Re: Walts]
#22102937 - 08/17/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sun dry for 3-5 days
That might be asking a lot in Scotland lol. Or indeed the UK. I use the airing cupboard for drying things.
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