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Truettthehuman
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Future super-humans?
#22094486 - 08/15/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quick question, not sure if it can be answered, but maybe it can spark some conversation; I was thinking.. Since us humans, according to evolution came from simple life forms, slowly turning the way we are now, does that mean that all other animals on this earth are almost destined to take this path to intelligence, and self-awareness? This could be a bit naive, but even think about Mckenna's stoned ape theory, it's known that other animals have tripped and do trip (for instance i've read that reindeer are known to eat psychedelic substances from time to time) so if it was mushrooms that possibly made us have that "leap" in consciousness, wouldn't the same eventually happen to other species? I was thinking of this when playing with my dog, would barking eventually progress into something more? I feel like it obviously would, it has to progress. That being said, in the distant future, is it possible if the species survived and earth lasted, than another type of animal today could one day be just like us, but maybe even improved? This is tripping me out quite a bit, Think of what a birds eye can do.. or how many senses we just don't have. I'd love to hear other opinions on the topic, thanks for reading!
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Evolution =/= going from simple to advanced
That's a common misconception. It often happens that life evolves into more complex versions, but it's not always the case. The fact that humans have the highest intelligence on the planet in its entire billions of years of evolution of life suggests that intelligence is actually not something that commonly evolves in species. I think it's more likely that humanity is an anomaly of intelligence, and that once we are extinct, another species with equal or greater intelligence may never evolve on earth again for billions more years.
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Truettthehuman
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Thanks for the reply. I suppose i wasn't considering the time that we've already spent here!
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was thinking.. Since us humans, according to evolution came from simple life forms, slowly turning the way we are now, does that mean that all other animals on this earth are almost destined to take this path to intelligence, and self-awareness?
Sharks have been around some 500,000,000 years and are almost unchanged. No lasers. Nothing.
Nature says "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"
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Well, in regards to the thread title, you may want to read Dune.
There are couple transhumanist schools which produced humans with what we would call super powers today
The Bene Gesserit are trained in "the minutiae of observation" and have an uber version of neurolinguistic programming that allows them to, once getting a proper "read" on a person, pitch their voice in a way to give commands to a person that act on their psyche before they can willfully resist and are forced to obey.
Then there's the mentats which resulted from the need for human computers after all robots, AI and computers were destroyed in a holy war and prohibited from ever being created again. A mentat's computational ability is supposed to exceed even the most powerful computers built today.
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I think there needs to be some sort of experiment done to test how fast, if at all, humans could facilitate evolution of a species. I proposed the idea sometime ago on highexistence. There might be some ethical issues here, but we can at least discuss the possibility without considering ethics.
Will another species surpass human's current intellectual capacity? Why not, I see it as the only possibility. Unless everything on this planet goes extinct, then we might have to wait another couple billion years.
What I think is more interesting is the current idea of super humans and normal humans coexisting together, which is currently manifesting. There will be a class of super humans with augmented biology that completely surpasses the "default" capacity of "normal" humans. As an example - bionic eyes. How can the average human compete with a human with 60/20 vision? This is going to become a reality within the next couple decades.
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