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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: MajickMuffin]
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rxb said: i've read that book, but i dont think it talks about aliens having mushrooms
Come on dude. Of course Aliens use psychedelics. It just makes sense! Right?
i think so. just never read it in the book he suggested had it in there.
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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: rxb]
#22098830 - 08/16/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I guess they are still here I have PROOF!!!! I saw this one today on my way to work!!!
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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: CTDreamer203]
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sweet, you should have stopped and asked him questions.
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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: rxb]
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I broke like 3 laws just trying to turn around and get a pic of him lol
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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: CTDreamer203]
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laws of of little concern. discovery is important.
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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: rxb]
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First signs of mycelium? mor info at my journal
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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: CTDreamer203]
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I'm eating pretzels, no more info available.
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Pretzels are good
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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: CTDreamer203]
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13mp Sony lens camera on my phone takes some really good pics
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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: natedawgnow]
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natedawgnow said: I wasn't trying to say the dark ages occurred anytime close to that of the Sumerians, just that we still use guidelines they set up over 6000 years ago.
I was, on the other hand, saying that before the dark ages, we were far more advanced than we had previously acknowledged, and had that specific era of human history never happened, we'd be even more advanced today than we could possibly fathom.
I agree.
there's a terence mckenna lecture that relates to what your saying in a way, at least he was saying had the destruction of the pre-dark age civilizations not occurred the Greeks would have made it to the new world in the 9th century and combined with the Mayans and so on...
Sorry this is really long, but it's a good rap.
Here is a true enough myth of our world. It begins with the notion of a soliton of improbability. Let us imagine that these are events which only happen once, and since they only happen once they are not legitimate objects for scientific inquiry because objects of scientific inquiry must happen at least twice. But this is a phenomenon which happens only once and we can visualize it as a kind of particle. These solitons of the utterly improbable crisscross the universe occasionally colliding with an existing event system. When they collide with an existing event system, that event system bifurcates into two event systems in order to preserve a kind of parity of probability - a term I invented that need not be taken seriously. But in the pursuit of the preservation of the parity of probability, the soliton creates a temporal bifurcation.
OK, we have reached the top of the steep learning curve in this concept system. Now here's the good news: the soliton of improbability which interacted with our world occurred two thousand years ago in the phenomenon of the Immaculate Conception. An event that I think you and I can agree is highly improbable! But let us take it at face value and see if we can work with it. When the Immaculate Conception occurred through the collision of the soliton of improbablility with this Galilean village girl called Marian or Mary, in one world she became impregnated with a figure destined for a great religious and political future: our world. The world in which Christ was born, became a young man, taught his message, and went to his execution around 27 AD. Another world sprang into existence at the moment of the Immaculate Conception and in that world nothing whatsoever happened to this young Galilean girl. She continued to live with Joseph. He continued to make fine furniture. Eventually they were able to move to the better side of Nazareth. And that was their story.
So you see I'm suggesting that at the time of Christ, a parallel world came into existence that knew nothing of Christ. And consequently the forces which shattered Roman civilization never came into existence in that parallel world. Instead, Greek science and mathematics continued to enrich Roman engineering, government, and theories of civil polity. Roman civilization continued to develop. The wonderful female mathematical genius Hypathia was able to complete her career. She was stoned to death by Christians in our world, yet in the parallel world she lived to old age and was able to elaborate the calculus some thousand years before Newton. This meant that by the sixth century or so this Greco-Roman world had ship building and navigational techniques that were possessed in our world only by Elizabethan times. Roman navigators inspired by the perfection of their science set sail to explore the world, and in that parallel continuum they discovered the Maya just as they were reaching their classic climax in the jungles of Central America. Approximately nine hundred years after the bifurcation into the two time streams, a Greco-Roman-Mayan civilization came into being in the parallel continuum. The great influence on the Greco-Roman psychology from this cultural adventure was the sophisticated use of psychedelic drugs for the purposes of religion and self-exploration. In the vision in which this idea was shown to me by the powers of the other side, I actually saw a Roman imperial administrator and his retinue arriving at Tikal for the coronation of Three-Flint-Knife in the ninth century; a great confluence of imperial majesty as the greatest king of the Mayan cultural climax received his European counterpart, and documents, codices, mathematicians, instruments of navigation, and pharmacy were traded.
Well to make a long story short, the parallel world continued to develop, and with its sophisticated psychology based on psychedelic drugs they soon became aware by studying the dreams of psychotics in their world, they slowly became aware I should say, of our existence. They figured out what we do not know, which is there was a world bifurcation and that there is a parallel time stream with a different situation evolving in it. They further, by extension of their more advanced understanding of atomic and particle physics, came by around the year 1900 in our continuum to the hypothesis that major releases of hard radiation would penetrate across the energy barrier of the two time streams. They conducted an experiment to test this hypothesis. They decided to set off a small atomic device in their continuum, and to monitor the dreams of sensitive people in our continuum to see if there was evidence of an awareness of this explosion. The experiment was actually carried out in 1906 by our time reckoning. This is what we call the Tunguska blast that occurred in Siberia. After the blast in the parallel continuum those who had conducted the test were able to monitor the dreams of Siberian Shamans and they saw hundreds of square miles of trees smashed flat by a mighty explosion. Hence they realized that their theoretical assumption that explosions in one continuum would affect life in the other were in fact true. Then they became quite alarmed because as they continued to monitor the dreams of human beings in the parallel continuum, they came to slowly understand that primitive though we may be in our world we were coming to a grasp of atomic chemistry and thermonuclear fission and fusion.
Fearing for the destruction of their own world they began, and have in fact carried out through this century, a massive scientific research project to attempt to reach us to communicate to us the true situation, and to depotentiate our nuclear arsenals in order to save their own world, which is now in fact the administrative center of some sixteen integrated star systems in this part of the galaxy. In other words, they are some twelve hundred years in advance of us technologically and in the use of psychedelic substances because they never experienced the history-freezing eschatology that the rise of Christianity created in our world. The last part of the myth relates to the Mayan calendrical date...
...And UFOs are aspects of this technological effort to reach us. In other words they are experimental vehicles attempting to penetrate the time barrier..to reach us with this news. I believe that in 2012 this technology will be perfected and they will no longer need to send unmanned probes or experimental devices, rather they will actually be able to open a domain perhaps as much as several thousand kilometers in diameter, which will be coexistent both in our time stream and in their time stream.
...People from this beknighted time stream will be able to reach the more advanced and perfected culture of the alternative time stream. It's not unlike the situation with East Germany and East Berlin. All that we're saying is that this advanced civilization is about to pull down the wall and invite us to leave the beknighted world bequeathed to us by rampant monotheism and participate in the higher life of the great stellar civilization created by the Greco-Roman-Mayanists, who avoided the rather tawdry ideological path of development that we were victim of. Terence
...Psychedelic compounds amplify the very slight leakage of information from this other dimension. In the same way that they found us, we can find them by taking psychedelic mushrooms and opening ourselves to the information pouring through from the alternative time stream. -Terence McKenna
I thought it was a good concept anyway.
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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: Dark_Star]
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Dark_Star said: His show the planets equidistant from the sun, which couldn't be further from the truth.
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Here is a modern depiction of the solar system

Here is the one provided in the initial post
I took the stone image from the OP's initial post, the modern image of the solar system from Google.
It's not a perfect match, but I'm amazed at how similar these are, I wouldn't go as far as to say it confirms aliens, but it is bizzare to say the least. I'm not sure where the OP got that stone image, but if it's credible, that is puzzling.
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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: rxb]
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rxb said: i've read that book, but i dont think it talks about aliens having mushrooms
Come on dude. Of course Aliens use psychedelics. It just makes sense! Right?
i think so. just never read it in the book he suggested had it in there.
I never suggested aliens had mushrooms by the way nor did I say it suggested any of the sort in that book, in the book it mentioned depictions of ancient people using amanita muscaria for ritualistic purposes
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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: CTDreamer203]
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rxb said: i've read that book, but i dont think it talks about aliens having mushrooms
Come on dude. Of course Aliens use psychedelics. It just makes sense! Right?
i think so. just never read it in the book he suggested had it in there.
I never suggested aliens had mushrooms by the way nor did I say it suggested any of the sort in that book, in the book it mentioned depictions of ancient people using amanita muscaria for ritualistic purposes
I'm not sure their amanita ID was correct...

I've even seen this picture "re-colored" to look like an amanita muscaria...Though I'm not convinced that this is the species depicted...this painting is 13 century French I believe...Though perhaps these people only knew the myth of the psychedelic mushroom, and the only psychedelic fungi they were aware of was amanita muscaria, so this is how they depicted it...Or it really is a stropharia cubensis with an odd paint job...even if this case is amanita muscaria, I'm convinced the sacred mushroom that spawns faiths is stropharia cubensis...
Soma was clearly stropharia cubensis, even if wasson claimed it was amanita muscaria (wasson hated hippies, after he published about the mushroom cults in Mexico the hippies over ran the area, fearing that this would again happen he misidentified soma as a. muscaria, knowing soma was stropharia cubensis. Amanita muscaria would have been rare in ancient India, however bos indicus cattle and thus stropharia cubensis would have been common. There are villages in India to this day that consider his indicia sacred, and use its dung for several purposes...to think the people of India would not have noticed and used a dinner plate sized mushroom growing from their sacred cartels dung is absurd...
In the gita chapter 11, arjuna is given "divine eyes" after which he describes a psilocybin experience... I think this is an ancient trip report for stropharia cubensis...
Chapter 11, Verse 7
Whatever you wish to see can be seen all at once in this body. This universal form can show you all that you now desire, as well as whatever you may desire in the future. Everything is here completely.
Chapter 11, Verse 8
But you cannot see Me with your present eyes. Therefore I give to you divine eyes by which you can behold My mystic opulence.
Chapter 11, Verse 9
Sa�jaya said: O King, speaking thus, the Supreme, the Lord of all mystic power, the Personality of Godhead, displayed His universal form to Arjuna.
Chapter 11, Verse 10-11
Arjuna saw in that universal form unlimited mouths and unlimited eyes. It was all wondrous. The form was decorated with divine, dazzling ornaments and arrayed in many garbs. He was garlanded gloriously, and there were many scents smeared over His body. All was magnificent, all-expanding, unlimited. This was seen by Arjuna.
Chapter 11, Verse 12
If hundreds of thousands of suns rose up at once into the sky, they might resemble the effulgence of the Supreme Person in that universal form.
Chapter 11, Verse 13
At that time Arjuna could see in the universal form of the Lord the unlimited expansions of the universe situated in one place although divided into many, many thousands.
Chapter 11, Verse 14
Then, bewildered and astonished, his hair standing on end, Arjuna began to pray with folded hands, offering obeisances to the Supreme Lord.
Chapter 11, Verse 15
Arjuna said: My dear Lord Kṛṣṇa, I see assembled together in Your body all the demigods and various other living entities. I see Brahmā sitting on the lotus flower as well as Lord Śiva and many sages and divine serpents.
Chapter 11, Verse 16
O Lord of the universe, I see in Your universal body many, many forms-bellies, mouths, eyes-expanded without limit. There is no end, there is no beginning, and there is no middle to all this.
Chapter 11, Verse 17
Your form, adorned with various crowns, clubs and discs, is difficult to see because of its glaring effulgence, which is fiery and immeasurable like the sun.
Chapter 11, Verse 18
You are the supreme primal objective; You are the best in all the universes; You are inexhaustible, and You are the oldest; You are the maintainer of religion, the eternal Personality of Godhead.
Chapter 11, Verse 19
You are the origin without beginning, middle or end. You have numberless arms, and the sun and moon are among Your great unlimited eyes. By Your own radiance You are heating this entire universe.
Chapter 11, Verse 20
Although You are one, You are spread throughout the sky and the planets and all space between. O great one, as I behold this terrible form, I see that all the planetary systems are perplexed.
Chapter 11, Verse 21
All the demigods are surrendering and entering into You. They are very much afraid, and with folded hands they are singing the Vedic hymns.
Chapter 11, Verse 22
The different manifestations of Lord Śiva, the Ādityas, the Vasus, the Sādhyas, the Viśvadevas, the two Aśvins, the Māruts, the forefathers and the Gandharvas, the Yakṣas, Asuras, and all perfected demigods are beholding You in wonder.
Chapter 11, Verse 23
O mighty-armed one, all the planets with their demigods are disturbed at seeing Your many faces, eyes, arms, bellies and legs and Your terrible teeth, and as they are disturbed, so am I.
Chapter 11, Verse 24
O all-pervading Viṣṇu, I can no longer maintain my equilibrium. Seeing Your radiant colors fill the skies and beholding Your eyes and mouths, I am afraid
-bhagavad gita, chapter 11
I don't think there is any way that this is describing amanita muscaria, it's clearly stropharia cubensis...
Chapter 11, Verse 8 But you cannot see Me with your present eyes. Therefore I give to you divine eyes by which you can behold My mystic opulence.
In this verse he is saying that you must eat the mushroom to see God, eating the mushroom is how you obtain "divine eyes"
I think in too many cases amanita muscaria takes credit for stropharia cubensis' s entheogenic and historical influence...
-E. Borodin
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Great post! Very interesting
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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: CTDreamer203]
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CTDreamer203 said: Great post! Very interesting
Thank you, I have been doing a good deal of independent ethnobotanical research and I have come to the conclusion that psilocybe fungi play a greater historical role than anybody gives them credit for, and even within the ethnobotanical community amanita muscaria gets credit where it perhaps is not deserved, soma being the most obvious misidentification.


Psilocybe fungi use is archaic, rock depictions of mushroom wielding people, as well as a "bee-faced" shaman holding hand fulls of mushrooms ,and with mushrooms going from his body (pictured above) date from the Neolithic, these depictions are also near depictions of cattle, and thus must be stropharia cubensis, these rock depictions of psychedelic mushroom use are 10 millennia old, these are Neolithic (stone-age) depictions of psilocybe fungi use in the Algerian section of the Sahara Desert, so I'm sure all the surrounding people's of later times would have been aware of these mushrooms....starting from tasili n'ajjer and connecting it to sites such as gobekli tepe and then forward in time and out of Africa into India and the middle east, as well as searching out ancient accounts resembling psilocybin use from the area, I have been slowly building a great case.
I have also been researching claims of amanita muscaria use and attempting to determine if it was in fact amanita muscaria or a psilocybe species being discussed...
I would end up typing all day on this topic, so I have gone over this as fast as possible, so I apologize if it's lacking in detail.
Amanita muscaria does have a rich ethnobotanical and shamanic history, specifically in Siberia, though in several cases it can't live up to the claims made, in these cases I believe it was misidentified stropharia cubensis or some other psilocybe.
"Its (amanita muscaria) use was known among almost all of the Uralic-speaking peoples of western Siberia and the Paleosiberian-speaking peoples of the Russian Far East"-wikipedia
The Vikings also had a class of soldier known as a "berserker" who would become intoxicated on amanita muscaria tea before running on shore of a foreign land and sluaghtering everything in sight.
And though in Siberia the mushroom had shamanic use, it's effects are often more deleriant than entheogenic, and amanita muscaria clearly does not fit the ancient accounts in terms of experience description, amanita muscaria is also rare in some of these areas where it was claimed to be used, where bos indicus cattle and stropharia cubensis were common in those places.
(amanita muscaria may have even inspired our image of santa clause, the mushroom being red and white, it's a symbiote of pine trees, and deer have been known to nearly tackle urinating shaman who have consumed the mushroom, the deer love urine from those who have eaten amanita muscaria, so we have Christmas trees (pine),the snow , the deer, and the red an white coloring all related to amanita muscaria and all related to Santa...Though this could be coincidence)
Regardless, I believe psilocybe fungi have a richer and more wide-spread history than they are given credit for, and it's been an amazing journey through history accumulating the evidence I need, along the way becoming educated in several other areas, though the psilocybe mushroom has become my focus (aside from some instances where I feel the Egyptians and the ancient Hebrews knew how to brew peganum harmala seeds with acacia nilotica to form a DMT/MAOI psychedelic, though again it would keep me typing all day were I to get into that here...though one of my more interesting conclusions is that when Moses would disappear onto mount Sinai for days at a time completely alone, before returning with commands and tablets from god, he was up there brewing and drinking peganum harmala seed and acacia nilotica tea...which sounds like a ill-thought claim, though i do have sufficient circumstantial evidence, and I'm building a case slowly.
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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
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Those 6000 year old tablet inscriptions look like they were done by a 7 year old I find the older it is the more important it is phenomenon very strange. Pluto was discovered in 1930 and in less then 100 years we sent a robot through space 4,670,000,000 miles to reach it and take pictures. IMO right here right now is where the real confirmable amazing stuff is going on.
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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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They wore rags and slept on dirt but knew all about the solar system and everything else it's just absolutely bizarre to me the fact that it was 6000 years ago is only a small factor
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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Is that a frog riding a beatle?! Lmfaoooo
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