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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: Sun King]
    #22095673 - 08/15/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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CTDreamer203 said:
You have to understand modern astronomy only classifys them as planets if they reach a certain size, maybe the "aliens" knew something we don't or maybe the size doesn't matter at all. The use of the word "planet" is relative.




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No, if the parameters that define the classification of objects as planets are changed, then some objects may no longer be planets and other object may become planets. If you choose not to participate then you will be an outcast.




I hope you can, now, understand why I hate visiting your planet...


  • The Earth is flat.
  • The sun orbits the earth.
  • This land is carried upon the back of a sacred elephant.
  • One will never go faster than the speed of sound.
  • One will never go faster than the speed of light.
  • Homosexuality is bad.
  • Drugs are bad.
  • God loves you.


If you do not believe all of these, YOU are the outcast. So, welcome to the club, Stranger! lol

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You win. Eight real planets and the five dwarf [planets]




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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
    #22095687 - 08/15/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

This thread totally has me bouncing to this song:



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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: rxb]
    #22095706 - 08/15/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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rxb said:
did they have mushrooms?




I think psilocybe mushrooms were a possibility, amanita muscaria is not very common in that region, where as bos indicus cattle were at that time, and thus stropharia cubensis would have been...Though the people promoting amanita mushrooms in books like "the mushroom and the cross" do make a decent case. (I think the case of a mushroom being involved is conclusive, though I feel the species was stropharia cubensis rather than amanita muscaria)

At Tassili n'Ajjer there are depictions of people dancing with mushrooms in hand, and a bee-faced man clutching mushrooms in hand and with mushrooms growing from his body, cattle are depicted near by these mushroom depictions, suggesting the mushroom was in fact stropharia cubensis, though The art is no older than 9–10 millennia, it's still a Neolithic era (stone-age) site, which confirms psychedelic mushroom use since the Neolithic...

I think the sumerians had something in their texts specifically prohibiting the consumption of mushrooms, which means mushroom use probably predates the Sumerian texts, as it must have been a social issue if it was important enough to prohibit its use with in the texts...

-E. Borodin


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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22095734 - 08/15/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Coincidentiaoppositorum said:
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rxb said:
did they have mushrooms?




I think psilocybe mushrooms were a possibility, amanita muscaria is not very common in that region, where as bos indicus cattle were at that time, and thus stropharia cubensis would have been...Though the people promoting amanita mushrooms in books like "the mushroom and the cross" do make a decent case. (I think the case of a mushroom being involved is conclusive, though I feel the species was stropharia cubensis rather than amanita muscaria)

At Tassili n'Ajjer there are depictions of people dancing with mushrooms in hand, and a bee-faced man clutching mushrooms in hand and with mushrooms growing from his body, cattle are depicted near by these mushroom depictions, suggesting the mushroom was in fact stropharia cubensis, though The art is no older than 9–10 millennia, it's still a Neolithic era (stone-age) site, which confirms psychedelic mushroom use since the Neolithic...

I think the sumerians had something in their texts specifically prohibiting the consumption of mushrooms, which means mushroom use probably predates the Sumerian texts, as it must have been a social issue if it was important enough to prohibit its use with in the texts...

-E. Borodin




This. I wonder if the bee faced man was a testament to preserving their mushrooms in honey.


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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: CTDreamer203]
    #22095738 - 08/15/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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CTDreamer203 said:
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rxb said:
i've read that book, but i dont think it talks about aliens having mushrooms



We're talking about ancient humans being way too advanced for their time possibly because of interaction with aliens. When you asked if "they" had mushrooms I assumed you meant the ancient Sumerians, not the aliens. Are you aware of how ignorant you sound or is that a common thing for you?




it's ignorant to state that ancient humans were less than advanced.
Because we can't fathom how they did it back then it's aliens.
Pretty advanced of you.


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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: jsncrs]
    #22095973 - 08/15/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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jsncrs said:
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said:
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rxb said:
did they have mushrooms?




I think psilocybe mushrooms were a possibility, amanita muscaria is not very common in that region, where as bos indicus cattle were at that time, and thus stropharia cubensis would have been...Though the people promoting amanita mushrooms in books like "the mushroom and the cross" do make a decent case. (I think the case of a mushroom being involved is conclusive, though I feel the species was stropharia cubensis rather than amanita muscaria)

At Tassili n'Ajjer there are depictions of people dancing with mushrooms in hand, and a bee-faced man clutching mushrooms in hand and with mushrooms growing from his body, cattle are depicted near by these mushroom depictions, suggesting the mushroom was in fact stropharia cubensis, though The art is no older than 9–10 millennia, it's still a Neolithic era (stone-age) site, which confirms psychedelic mushroom use since the Neolithic...

I think the sumerians had something in their texts specifically prohibiting the consumption of mushrooms, which means mushroom use probably predates the Sumerian texts, as it must have been a social issue if it was important enough to prohibit its use with in the texts...

-E. Borodin




This. I wonder if the bee faced man was a testament to preserving their mushrooms in honey.




I've considered this as well, very interesting notion, if there's a possible way to confirm this I would be interested, though unfortunately I think the carvings and pictographs are all we have to go by...

I have theorized that the inhabitants of Tassili n'Ajjer were the same folks, or descendents of the same folks who built gobekle tepe, and I have been doing quite a bit of work in trying to procure evidence to connect the two sites...

-E. Borodin


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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22095983 - 08/15/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry I worded that strangely, I meant to say the people from Tassili n'Ajjer either later built gobekle tepe, or the descendents of the Tassili n'Ajjer folks were involved with  gobekle tepe.

-E. Borodin


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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: CTDreamer203]
    #22096042 - 08/15/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The fuck? I knew what the layout of the solar system looked like when I was in elementary school.  That image is not it. I can't post pics on my phone these days for some reason, but this diagram shows why the carving is not the solar system;
http://www.visionsofthecosmos.com/Solar%20System.htm

Do a google search for nasa diagram of the solar system & you'll see more.


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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22096162 - 08/15/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)



Here is a modern depiction of the solar system



Here is the one provided in the initial post

They look similar to me...

-E. Borodin


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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22096174 - 08/15/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That's bizzare how similar those two images are...

-E.Borodin


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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22096190 - 08/15/15 07:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I wish I could get an enlarged version of that stone solar system image, I bet if you sized those up properly you could almost superimpose one over the other...

-E. Borodin


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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22096195 - 08/15/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

His show the planets equidistant from the sun, which couldn't be further from the truth.


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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22096469 - 08/15/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Considering all of those questions were unfalsifiable the only correct answer can be maybe to all 3 questions.


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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: CTDreamer203] * 1
    #22096484 - 08/15/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

By accurate do you mean totally not to scale as to position, size and distance? Wow! That IS accurate.


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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #22096487 - 08/15/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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By accurate do you mean totally not to scale as to position, size and distance? Wow! That IS accurate.




:solidnod:


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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: rxb]
    #22096495 - 08/15/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Don't get me started on how modern labels were attached to the planets post hoc in an attempt to give greater veracity to whatever nonsensical point the OP is attempting to make.

This is standard mystic-head intellectual dishonesty.


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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: CTDreamer203]
    #22097025 - 08/15/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You say Sumerians were ahead of their time, but did you know that
we still use the same time scale that they invented over 6,000 years ago?

Of course I am referring to the 60 minute hour, 24 hour day, and 365 day year.
Here's one source

In all actuality, they were not ahead of their time, we are behind our time.
The dark age was the worst time for human kind. We would be far more advanced
had this era of human history never occured.

Germanic tribes and the like fucked it up for everybody. If the library at Alexandria had
never been reduced to ashes, we would be beings of pure energy by now :shrug:


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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: natedawgnow]
    #22097788 - 08/16/15 07:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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natedawgnow said:
You say Sumerians were ahead of their time, but did you know that
we still use the same time scale that they invented over 6,000 years ago?

Of course I am referring to the 60 minute hour, 24 hour day, and 365 day year.
Here's one source

In all actuality, they were not ahead of their time, we are behind our time.
The dark age was the worst time for human kind. We would be far more advanced
had this era of human history never occured.

Germanic tribes and the like fucked it up for everybody. If the library at Alexandria had
never been reduced to ashes, we would be beings of pure energy by now :shrug:




Sumer was first permanently settled between c. 5500 and 4000 BC.

Though, I agree that if Alaric the visigoth and his Christian barbarians had not laid waste to the civilizations of the Peloponnesian Peninsula and Rome we would have avoided the dark ages.

The dark ages officially began with the fall of Rome in
476 A.D.

though my true fascination is with Neolithic cultures, specially the mushroom users of Tassili n'Ajjer. Not far from Tassili n'Ajjer lays gobekli tepe, this site dates to the 10th millennium BCE, at this point humans were supposed to be at the "stone-age" level, yet at gobekli tepe we see intricate stone pillars with animals carved into them, the stone work is amazing and highly advanced, and at this point Humans were supposedly nit able of producing such sites. Gobekli tepe was not a settlement, it was a religious gathering point, I theorize that the mushroom users of Tassili n'Ajjer worshiped at gobekli tepe...Or maybe even were involved in its construction...

Regardless, Tassili n'Ajjer is one of the older sites, and it confirms that psychedelic mushroom use is archaic, pre-historic, and likely played a role in the formation of modern human civilization.

I think that we need to incorporate the mushroom into modern culture to help us make up for the lost time of the dark ages...

Sorry I did not mean to get off topic.

-E. Borodin


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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22098001 - 08/16/15 09:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I wasn't trying to say the dark ages occurred anytime close to that
of the Sumerians, just that we still use guidelines they set up over 6000
years ago.

I was, on the other hand, saying that before the dark ages, we were
far more advanced than we had previously acknowledged, and had that
specific era of human history never happened, we'd be even more
advanced today than we could possibly fathom.


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Re: 6000 year old tablet accurately depicts the solar system! &+Pictures!!!!! [Re: rxb]
    #22098028 - 08/16/15 09:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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rxb said:
i've read that book, but i dont think it talks about aliens having mushrooms



Come on dude. Of course Aliens use psychedelics. It just makes sense! Right?


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