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Anyone take etizolam before??
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How is it? Ill have some soon. I want to use it for my anxiety.
If you have is it addictive. Ik its not a benzo but ive never taken them before.
Fuck the dr im already stuck on antidepressants and cant get off the shit.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Mr. Magic] 1
#22093311 - 08/15/15 01:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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No one on this planet has ever taken this before...
Would you like to be the first???
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Mr. Magic] 1
#22093437 - 08/15/15 03:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It makes people obnoxious and significantly lowers brain function.
Have fun
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Mr. Magic] 1
#22093443 - 08/15/15 03:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Watch your ass. You WILL blackout on it. Whether or not you die/kill someone, or just make an ass out of yourself in front of friends, family, coworkers etc., that's up to fate. Read some of the well documented horror stories on this site before you dose up... just to get an idea of what you're in store for.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Mr. Magic] 1
#22093477 - 08/15/15 04:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Best benzo I've tried for anxiety and mood lift. Very addictive. Should be cheap as fuck.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: ModestMouse]
#22093551 - 08/15/15 05:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Never done it but everyone seems to agree it's addictive. Supposedly benzo addiction is the worst too, why you even want to try it?
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Mr. Magic]
#22093577 - 08/15/15 05:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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What kinda ssri? those are a bitch to get off.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Amanita86]
#22093580 - 08/15/15 05:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: Watch your ass. You WILL blackout on it. Whether or not you die/kill someone, or just make an ass out of yourself in front of friends, family, coworkers etc., that's up to fate.
Sig worthy post, lmao. Pure truth, too.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Astral Pain]
#22093585 - 08/15/15 05:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think the whole benzo family for me personally just isnt enjoyable. Its like being a tired emotionless zombie without any pleasures... No sadness, no happiness...just existing...
I guess I see why the average American is attracted to it.
Low doses to reduce anxiety are effective but I dont see the recreational attraction.
Seems pointless.
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I keep heaeing about it.
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back when I was on a lot of drugs I almost ordered 5g of the stuff
thank god I didn't no doubt I'd have crashed my car atleast once and wound up in jail
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it's amazing. one of my favorite drugs. it's really easy to go overboard with it, so be careful.
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moonrockmushy said: It makes people obnoxious and significantly lowers brain function.
Have fun 
Also, my dad wont get me etizolam ...
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Mr. Magic]
#22094196 - 08/15/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have i went crazy
it is very addictive and seductve
tread carefully
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: SunnyD] 1
#22094214 - 08/15/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just ordereed some too. I think the stuff is pretty amazing for anxiety and hangover and stuff like that
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: SunnyD] 1
#22094233 - 08/15/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I take 1mg once maybe every few weeks before bed when I have time for a decent sleep. Have done so for the past 18 months. As long as you're responsible it's fine, definitely not a cure for anxiety, merely a band aid. If you have trouble with addiction then stay far away from it.
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this thread got me wanting some. prices are still low, so i might order some once i get some scrill.
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Yeah I got 30 mg for just under $25 including shipping
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I was able to get 1gram for 70$ but that guy is invite only and i aint a member no more
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: SunnyD]
#22094338 - 08/15/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ahh you got the powder? I just bought liquid for the dosing convenience
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Malcolm_Xtasy said: Yeah I got 30 mg for just under $25 including shipping
that's a lil bit of a better deal then where i was checking out.
one of the things i miss the most about etiz is sticking a few pills under my tongue and tasting that sweetness.
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I had pg liquid everytime i got from him
it costed alittle extra liquid solution with strong benzos is almost a must
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sanchothestoner said:
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Malcolm_Xtasy said: Yeah I got 30 mg for just under $25 including shipping
that's a lil bit of a better deal then where i was checking out.
one of the things i miss the most about otiose is sticking a few pills under my tongue and tasting that sweetness.
Yeah my vendor is out of pellets so he's giving everyone 20% off on the liquid until he restocks. Pretty awesome deal
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Be careful tho its only 30mg butt still
have fun though
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: SunnyD]
#22094369 - 08/15/15 10:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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30mg is a good few days
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or 1 night
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: SunnyD]
#22094399 - 08/15/15 10:42 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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AddyZomeD said: Be careful tho its only 30mg butt still
have fun though
Lol I don't really binge. The highest amount I've ever taken was 5 mg and that knocked me the fuck out
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I just bought 10mg to try it out. If i find its really that addictive to me then i wont get more.
I take ambien here and there so i know about blackouts. Supposedly afriend called me one night while i was on it, and road with him to a gas station to get cigs and smoke. Idk how i didnt make a dumbass of myself buying cigs because he said there were quite a few ppl inside. Haha
I dont remember a damn thing. He said i just repeated myself a lot and walked like i was drunk. Lol
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Mr. Magic]
#22094665 - 08/15/15 12:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Never order bulk etizolam powder, nothing good comes of it. You would be better off going to your drug dealer and getting a bunch of heroin.
NOTHING GOOD COMES OF ETIZOLAM
Maybe 30mg in pellets is fine but do not order more it is a piece of shit drug and has ruined many lives. I encourage you to get into occasional heroin use over an etizolam addiction not even joking.
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Quote:
luvdemboomers said: ...I'd have crashed my car atleast once and wound up in jail
This happened to me.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22094794 - 08/15/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I blacked out with etiz, drove my parent's car the next day and was still fucked up from it and never knew, I literally slept through a red light and woke up, then my wheels were hitting the barrier on the side. Luckily nobody called the cops and there were no damages.
My parents and I ended up getting in a fight when I came home and I went to jail on it.
It always ended with so much fucked up shit happening. Please just stick to a few drinks if you want the GABBA effect.
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Yep, it was the day after for me too. I felt so over confident and drove when I really had no business driving. Ended up rear-ending somebody and getting a DUI. Fuck that shit. It's not worth it.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22095034 - 08/15/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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How much did you take?
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: vinsue]
#22095051 - 08/15/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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vinsue said:
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moonrockmushy said: It makes people obnoxious and significantly lowers brain function.
Have fun 
Also, my dad wont get me etizolam ...
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That's hilarious. "My dad won't buy me drugs! WTF is his problem! Yeah I'm gonna get high off of it, but that's beside the point."
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Malcolm_Xtasy said: How much did you take?
Too much. I was dipping a toothpick in powder. I didn't have a milligram scale. It was stupid on my part.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
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So did the police instantly know you were fucked up?
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22095080 - 08/15/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think responsible use is possible, as long as you closely monitor your use and aren't totally stupid.
I bought a gram a few months ago and take .5-1 mgs if I'm feeling especially anxious. I was beginning to take 2-4 mgs/day but it was easy to cut it down to .5-1 and now I'm at zero. Now I only take .5 mgs once every few days if my anxiety is especially bad.
I've also taken up to 6 or 7 mgs while drinking, and things were cloudy but I never blacked out. I was a complete asshole to my friend and don't recommend it at all. Basically, if you don't have anxiety, I don't recommend it.
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Yes, they did. They couldn't smell alcohol or weed. So, they game me a field sobriety test and I failed miserably. Then they took my blood and etizolam on an MS/GC drug test.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
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I use the stuff regularly and I'm on a few mgs right now. Never taken more than 3mg in one day and I've never blacked out in over a year of occasional/semi-regular use. That being said, fuck this shit, definitely not worth using unless you have severe anxiety. Very poor risk to benefit ratio even when used sparsely for recreation and it's a terrible crutch used regularly. Obviously I'm not gonna say don't take it because I'd sound like a gigantic hypocrite but steering clear of benzos/thienos is always a good choice.
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Thought it was good while on it. Regretted immensely when off. That and I got to see how much it fucked my love up. Def not worth it. Too much trouble.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: pachoo]
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When you order a gram of the powder you quickly end up balls deep into a really fucked up addiction without even realizing it until it is way too late
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Exactly why I've never bought a whole gram at once. I realize I'm playing with fire regardless having 100mg+ on hand, though
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It only takes two weeks to be hooked on it.
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Its a sad and dark confused life addicted and constantly high on benzos
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: SunnyD]
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I bought a couple of vials of it a while back
Still got most of it left, too
Haven't touched it in months
It dulls me, I forget everything (so what's the point), and I'm just basically a walking, breathing disaster on it
So yeah, I'll pass
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Niffla] 1
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Does it have euphoria? If so I'd probably love it. The only reason I like Xanax is for the euphoria I get with it. All other Benzos (yes I know it's not technically a benzo) are completely boring to me. I also don't have a propensity for doing stupid shit while on benzos. I have on one or two occasions, on ridiculous doses, but I mostly just relax and enjoy it. I think it partly has to do with me actually having constant anxiety. While on it is one of the few times I can just relax.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Shroomslip]
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Shroomslip said: Does it have euphoria?
In my personal opinion, no. Although fans of it may disagree.
To me it just dulls the shit of me and I really have no interest or emotion about anything whatsoever when I'm loaded on it.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Shroomslip] 1
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Shroomslip said: Does it have euphoria? If so I'd probably love it. The only reason I like Xanax is for the euphoria I get with it. All other Benzos (yes I know it's not technically a benzo) are completely boring to me. I also don't have a propensity for doing stupid shit while on benzos. I have on one or two occasions, on ridiculous doses, but I mostly just relax and enjoy it. I think it partly has to do with me actually having constant anxiety. While on it is one of the few times I can just relax.
For people with actual anxiety like myself, I think its pretty damn euphoric
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It would be kinda interesting if that is the determining factor on whether euphoria is involved or not. The only people I know who like Xanax are high strung people like me, prone to panic attacks at any given moment (which fucking suuuuuuuuuuuucks). I wasn't even aware that there were a large group of people who disliked them before coming here.
Could explain why some hold them up like they're god's miracle and others call them lame and boring. Being free from anxiety, if only for a few hours, is amazing in itself. I honestly never knew what relaxed truly meant until I tried Xanax for the first time.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Shroomslip]
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I had a xanax addiction at one point, and also have had my bouts with anxiety. I definitely see the benefits and how much of a godsend it can be for people with anxiety issues.
That said, and I can only speak for myself -- the downside just outweighs the reward. For those who just use it in spots for anxiety and can do that responsibly, more power to them. I think that's great.
I'm not one of those people, though. I abused it for over a year and the withdrawal period that followed was one of the most hellish periods of my life.
Also, and it's been years since I've dosed some xanax, but I remember it being a cut above etizolam. I could take xanax recreationally, whereas with etizolam, I just feel like it dulls all of my senses. There's no recreational value in it for me for that reason.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Niffla]
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Well that's interesting.
I really don't find any other benzo recreational. I was prescribed kpins for awhile and didn't just start eating them to get fucked up, I only used them medicinally because that's all they were good for to me. I'm prescribed Tamazepam now, and still only use it medicinally, I dunno if I could honestly be trusted with a Xanax script like that (in fact I can probably say I couldn't be).
But the fact that you enjoyed Xanax and found no euphoria in Etiz kinda trashes my idea. Maybe it is all down to interaction in our bodies and that's why some find them euphoric and some don't. Would still like to hear of one person who definitely does not have anxiety issues and finds euphoria in any benzo. I've never heard of it to date, but I'm not a doctor running tests so my sample size isn't really all that big.
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I will say this though: euphoria or no, etizolam clearly is very effective for anxiety if used responsibly
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Shroomslip]
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They have different mechanisms of action but more importantly everyone is different. There are many people who get euphoria from both etizolam and alprazolam, and even a decent amount who prefer etizolam to alprazolam.
@OP As many have said, it is extremely easy to wind up addicted and/or with a criminal record from having hundreds of doses of etizolam or other benzo. Etizolam is for all intents and purposes a benzo, and will cause physical addiction and those side effects (seizures) very quickly with 'round the clock dosing.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: DustBunny]
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This thread pretty much sums it up from multiple angles..
Yeah that will make you slip..
You dont even realize it, it blacks your consious mind, but your body still goes..
I wonder if the "help" these anxiety prone folk get is just a lack of reflection to freak out about..
Ive had the fights, car crash, woke up in an ICU, threw a pork tenderloin off a deck.. black out scenarios..
And the shit pulls you because youre not consious... you wake up 'later'.. and with consequence..
Lack of inhibition means.. fuck it, snort a rail..
But beyond all that shit that's already been documented.. when you get that etiz powder.. you never know what you're getting.. you think some chinese or indian chemist gives a fuck about what may happen to you, or about quality control?
Beware... that vial of powder may not be what you think it is. Its not like pills(or pellets as they call them now) at least they went through some kind of quality control, as half assed as it is.. that powder is a crap shoot. That shit will be powdery, flakey, different types of grainey... fuck that shit, god knows what's in there..
So buyer beware... these "horror stories" only have one thing in common. And that's that the poster, lived to tell the tale. And if I had to guess, they're the minority.. think about that shit for a minute.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Amanita86]
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Etizolam is a gay boy drug drink some booze it'll put hair on your chest.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: DustBunny]
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DustBunny said: They have different mechanisms of action but more importantly everyone is different. There are many people who get euphoria from both etizolam and alprazolam, and even a decent amount who prefer etizolam to alprazolam.
@OP As many have said, it is extremely easy to wind up addicted and/or with a criminal record from having hundreds of doses of etizolam or other benzo. Etizolam is for all intents and purposes a benzo, and will cause physical addiction and those side effects (seizures) very quickly with 'round the clock dosing.
Very good briefing.
As for me personally I never got much euphoria from xanax or kpins or any other benzo but it did give me relief from my anxiety. As for etizolam I got slight euphoria from it the first few times doing it but now I just use it for anxiety relief. I usually take one mg in the morning and one or two more throughout the day depending on how stressful my day is. I find it more useful then any other benzo but it can be very addictive. The short half life makes it particularly more addictive then other benzos in my experience.
I have a gram of powder stashed away in case the availability disappears, but mostly I just use the pills. I've been using 2 to 4 mgs daily for awhile now, and I really have no desire to go any higher then that. I do have an addictive personality but for some reason I have no desire to get high or up my dosage of etizolam. Or any benzo for thay matter.
I have done up to 8 mg at once maybe two or three times just trying to get a nice buzz off of it and it just doesnot do it for me. So like I said before I just mainly use it for my anxiety and my dosage averages around 2.5mg a day.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: DTCharlieB]
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Almost everyone I know who has touched Etiz has gotten fairly intensely addicted.
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Amanita86 said: I wonder if the "help" these anxiety prone folk get is just a lack of reflection to freak out about..
I think it's deeper than that. Even when I'm "calm" and not actively worrying about anything my body can dump a bunch of adrenaline and suddenly I'm in fight or flight mode, and in most cases, way beyond it. I'm to the point where I'm going to pass out, for absolutely no reason at all.
I've had some very severe effects to my anxiety over the years when an actual fear response is triggered. I've went blind for over a half an hour (and cold sweat so much I could literally wring out my clothes) and have passed out going into a seizure like event to name 2. That's when I actually have something to fear. I imagine what is baseline for me, is that feeling most people get when they see a cop following them and they're carrying.
Very jittery, over aware of everything going on around me (to the point of sensory overload) it actually takes a semi-conscious effort for me to keep my breathing rate low. Granted I've been told I have a pretty severe level of anxiety (by more than one doctor) and they don't normally see it to this extent.
Taking a benzo pretty much takes it all away. Xanax is especially effective in it (but when I'm taking Xanax I'm usually taking it to levels to get fucked up and intensifying effects with alcohol). For me it's nothing short of a miracle to be able to experience that kind of relief.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Shroomslip]
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Hmm well shit i only got 10mg in pellet form. I do a pretty decent job at keeping control of myself.....most the time. I mean i can recognize when i have a problem. I dont plan on using it much i have kratom. 
Id read it can help a lot for sleep cus its also a hipnotic. Anyone take it for this reason? I planned on using this for that and during times of high anxiety, but not neccesarily recreationly.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Mr. Magic]
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If you are gonna get hooked on a hard drug, get hooked on a better one then etizolam. At least heroin/ meth/ crack/ even alcoholics get a good high from their drug. Etizolam has no euphoria and actually makes you a boring stupid person most of the time.
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Yeah but im talking 1-2 times a week at most. Like i have ambien i use every so often if im having a really hard time getting to sleep. Thats kind of what im planning with this.
Is it really that bad? Lol i only bought 10mg so if it is ill just steer clear of it.
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Mr. Magic said: Yeah but im talking 1-2 times a week at most. Like i have ambien i use every so often if im having a really hard time getting to sleep. Thats kind of what im planning with this.
Is it really that bad? Lol i only bought 10mg so if it is ill just steer clear of it.
Etizolam is the drug that is the king of rationalizations. If you have any kind of anxiety or insomnia, there is ALWAYS a reason to use it. Job interviews, needing to sleep, anxiety for going out, recreation for boredom, coming down from stimulants, ect. Before you know it you start breaking the rules and use it more and more and after a year you are trying to taper down but you can't cause you have too many things going on.
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Yeah i understand i see what you mean. Well i may just throw it away when it arrives. I did some research on it and never read much talking about how addictive it is. Atleast not how you guys are talking.
If its that bad i dont want to mess with it. It was cheap anyway so no big deal.
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If you only have 10mgs you can't get addicted from just that so have fun with it dude.
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Okay so i see where you guys were coming from. I like it. I have been taking 1mg every night for a week.
Should i expect any significant withdrawls from this? Other than rebound insomnia and anxiety.
I like it for sleep but dont see much recreational value to it for me. It just reminds me of ambien in a way
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Mr. Magic]
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I would never advise anyone to take that awful mess of a drug, just my 2c. Took moderate-high doses for 6 days and had over 2 weeks of hellish hangover's/wd's.
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What was your moderate dose. Most i took one night was 2mg and didnt really even like it...and it made me sleep half the day away lol
What im wondering is if 1mg is enough to cause that
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: pfxtc]
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I heard it makes your toes fall off.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Mr. Magic]
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Mr. Magic said: What was your moderate dose. Most i took one night was 2mg and didnt really even like it...and it made me sleep half the day away lol
What im wondering is if 1mg is enough to cause that
i'm probably overestimating but I think first 2 days were about 2mg every few hours and 3-6 was probably upwards of 15mg-20mg a day. 7th day I quit 'cold turkey' which I didn't think would even matter only taking it for 6 days and I slept maybe 10 hours the next week or so - it was miserable hell. I wouldn't advise anyone take something that can wreak such havoc so quickly. the WD's lasted 2x longer then I even took the damn drug. I doubt 1mg is enough and if 2mg just makes you sleep then don't bother. waste of time.
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Detached said: I heard it makes your toes fall off.
No it only causes you to eat insane amounts of drugs that will cause them to fall off.
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Okay thank you. damn yeah i could not take anywhere near those numbers. They make me feel good and completely rid all anxiety from my head but i wouldnt be able to function on it too well at work...so youre right not really worth it.
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No it only causes you to eat insane amounts of drugs that will cause them to fall off.
shit seriously gives me nightmares
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So no one should take etizolam because you engaged in reckless dosing?
Come on man, "a couple of mgs an hour" is asinine.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: pfxtc]
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I've been in the icu and er twice because of etizolam. Thank god for ativan..I admit I used it wrong...but I also confess when Im blacked the fuck out, dead, its not me who's making the decisions.. I'll never touch that trash again. It is NOT, xannex.. and I suspect the lab coats pushing that powder dont give a shit about the end product.
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Come on man, "a couple of mgs an hour" is asinine.
regardless - to get 2 weeks of wd's from 6 days of dosing is asinine. it was over a year ago and i'm probably overestimating the dosing - i can't remember. i sincerely think it's quite a dangerous drug - I felt completely 100% alert the entire 6 days with no black-spots - I wasn't raving and dosing uncontrollably. WD's hit me like a ton of bricks overnight.
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The takeaway here should be that you cannot use benzos recreationally unless you have strong self control and awareness of habit-forming warning signs. They're arguably the most dangerous drug to get addicted to and probably the easiest save for opiates.
Benzos are great drugs; But you have to treat them with caution and care.
@pfx - don't justify dangerous drug use because it was only for a few days. I'm not trying to be a dick I'm saying reconsider what you advise others.
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I have strong habit forming alertness which is why I stopped, threw it away the 7th day because I noticed I was taking too much. Without that alertness this stuff can be super dangerous, as anything can be I suppose - regardless, I think the drug sucked anyways, and didn't even have a good time those 6 days. Made me feel like I drank 2-3 beers everytime I dosed, that's it. I didn't even get high, and the WD's totally fucked me - that's what scares me about etizolam.
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Benzos are great drugs; But you have to treat them with caution and care.
@pfx - don't justify dangerous drug use because it was only for a few days. I'm not trying to be a dick I'm saying reconsider what you advise others.
I'm advising others to not try etizolam because it sucks and is addictive/habit-forming/causes insane WD's after short term use. Like I said the HIGH wasn't even good. Waste of time/$.
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That's because these drugs don't get you high (arguably Xanax does), but they sure as shit do fuck with your head. When I was at my worst in etizolam use I have felt completely in control.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Amanita86]
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Ok a double post, I made a double post but check it out.. etizolam has a sinister nature to it.. Im not a stranger to benzos. Pretty familiar actually.. but etizolam is not your friend. It has this, evil nature to it. Everyone's chemistry is different but, etizolam is dark dark news man... and it slips up on you like a fucking viper.. its the one you dont see that gets you man..
Take it for what it is, I fucked up, but, that shit has a nature to it... and that nature is not good..
Nobody long term becomes a better person from it. People destroy their lives saying.."yes yes, I'll use it responsibly"...and then they're fucking done..
The only place on this earth for etizolam, as far as I'm concerned, is riding down the water swirls of a flushed toilet..
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I agree that etizolam blindsided me. If I were to recommend a benzo it'd be klonopin or ativan. Less addictive.
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ModestMouse said: The takeaway here should be that you cannot use benzos recreationally unless you have strong self control and awareness of habit-forming warning signs. They're arguably the most dangerous drug to get addicted to and probably the easiest save for opiates.
Benzos are great drugs; But you have to treat them with caution and care.
@pfx - don't justify dangerous drug use because it was only for a few days. I'm not trying to be a dick I'm saying reconsider what you advise others.
Another thing that needs to change NOW, is the calling of etizolam, a benzo. Etizolam IS NOT, a benzo.. and people need to stop calling them that now.
It's a hack.. it needs to be referred to as the hack it is.. it's not a benzo.
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Everybody thinks that when they start using these drugs for "recreational" purposes. If it doesn't get you high, where is the recreation? By and large it is people self-medicating, no matter what they tell themselves before they black out and fuck up their life.
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denial? I use benzos and have been for a year and a half without issue. I don't use everyday and since my first dance with etizolam I have not had withdrawals.
Perhaps recreation was the wrong word. I used that because I derive recreation from a Workday tune-out every once in awhile. Society is bullshit sometimes and these babies silence all that. If you keep control you can use benzos without having an addiction.
*It's like chippers, people who use hard opiates on blue moons. I've never been one but they sure as shit exist.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: ModestMouse]
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Benzos are a shitty drug with some (but very little) medicinal value. Prolonged use of any kind just leads to bigger problems imo
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Etizolam is not a benzo.
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Which is why legit doctors dont prescribe them but for a few weeks.. and really, try to avoid them except in "worst case scenarios".
Dont get me wrong, true "benzos" serve a purpose, and a damn fine one at that... but rarely the purpose the benzo takers have in mind..
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Amanita86]
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It's like a benzo though, you seem to be caught up on a pretty petty distinction. It results in the same withdrawal, and can be used interchangeably as I understand it in terms of abating withdrawal.
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You're correct but speculative science believes it works in a similar fashion on your brains GABA system.
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There is a distinct difference... like synth cannabs, or marinol. Or a fent analoge, or any other RC under the sun... there is a difference.. thats why when you map out those molecules, you see a difference... because there is a difference..
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ModestMouse said: You're correct but speculative science believes it works in a similar fashion on your brains GABA system.
Well two different strains of weed can have a drastic effect on the one applying those chemicals to their head.. and they use the same rings...
This fake shit uses different rings. Its only safe to say, its not the same. Because it isnt. You point out the similarities, I'll point out the differences ok?
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Amanita86]
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I'm curious, can you point out a subjective difference greater than the inherent differences in various drugs of the benzo class?
What I'm saying is they're incredible similar and we don't know enough to state exactly otherwise.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: ModestMouse]
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We don't know enough?
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Amanita86]
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Provide me some examples there, chemist.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: ModestMouse]
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Take them and find out. Im not really sure I get your question.. are you suggesting when someone changes a complete molecule that differences dont occur, "because they're remarkably similar"?...
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: ModestMouse]
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Im not a chemist btw, smartass..even though that was in my course work..
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Hold up, I got this one, I got thi...
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Amanita86 said: There is a distinct difference... like synth cannabs, or marinol. Or a fent analoge, or any other RC under the sun... there is a difference.. thats why when you map out those molecules, you see a difference... because there is a difference..
marinol is lab synthesized delta9-THC. There's a differences, but we also class drugs by effect and there is so much crossover between benzodiazepines and thienodiazepines that they are essentially in the same class of drugs.
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Not really..
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Look here bro. You can call pig shit, and chicken shit the same all day long, "because they're similar".. but Im here to tell you, under that line of thought, you're not "much different" than these last two subjects of discussion..
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Amanita86]
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You're really going to continue splitting hairs? I get what you're saying, but youre wasting your energy trying to warn us of differences between these incredibly similar chemicals. You haven't produced any evidence (not even subjective evidence!) of a difference in effect or action between thienos and benzos, at least concerning etizolam, so what are you trying to achieve?
Sure they're technically in different families, do they both work by the same mechanism as far as we can tell? Absolutely.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: ModestMouse]
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Take them and tell me that... in fact, tell me benzos in general don't hit you differently.. since you're all about family.
I really couldnt give a shit much more than one human caring enough to give warning to another... but Im here to tell you, etizolam is NOT a benzo, and hits you very differently..
How about we put our differences aside and just agree you dont call a chemical that is in fact not a benzo, a benzo..eh?
Logical enough for you remarkably similar guy?
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That was a shit rebuttal, so the discussion is over. Thanks for reminding us etizolam is a thieno. That's really what we accomplished.
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ModestMouse said: That was a shit rebuttal, so the discussion is over. Thanks for reminding us etizolam is a thieno. That's really what we accomplished.

all I want to make sure was understood is to BE CAREFUL with etizolam.
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You never know... somebody who isnt familiar with how this chemistry play out may hear dumbfucks refer to a non benzo as a benzo, and get confused...
I would hate for some ignorant misunderstanding, dipshits post, to get someone in touble. So I brought it up..
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ModestMouse said: That was a shit rebuttal, so the discussion is over. Thanks for reminding us etizolam is a thieno. That's really what we accomplished.
...and Im almost convinced since the start of our conversation, you've had to look up the name of that changed ring, and thats probably the first time your keyboard has ever seen you type thieno...
Wake up "chemist"..
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Mr. Magic]
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Mr. Magic said: How is it? Ill have some soon. I want to use it for my anxiety.
If you have is it addictive. Ik its not a benzo but ive never taken them before.
Fuck the dr im already stuck on antidepressants and cant get off the shit.
Many years of addiction. You're playing with fire.
I know anxiety can be difficut but etizolam or benzos are not the answer. Its a downward spiral. I ended up needing more and more to get any effect. I was dosing thumb sized amounts of pure powder and taking opiates by the end of it and ultimately I over dosed and nearly died.
After a few weeks you get ued to any benzo or similar analogue such as etizolam. You will need more and more and become an addict. If you try and quit its worse than quitting heroin. I was shaking, having siezures, legs twitching. Think about the long term results buddy please
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Mr. Magic said: How is it? Ill have some soon. I want to use it for my anxiety.
If you have is it addictive. Ik its not a benzo but ive never taken them before.
Fuck the dr im already stuck on antidepressants and cant get off the shit.
When I was 17 years old (I'm 25 now), I ordered Etizolam from Europe. I contacted a site administrator and ask if I could send actual cash in the mail. I did it. He sent it to me here!!! It's funny. It's illegal in FL at-least. Guess what else happen? I was not home when it came int he mail and my mom flushed it down the toilet!!!!! bah hahahahahah. Thank God for mothers!!! Who knows what would of happen to me if I would of used that with such little experience at that age.
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Im trying to quit my antidepressants right now. Its only been two days and everything is hell. I really hate those damn pills.
Worst withdrawals ive ever experienced. Ive tried quitting countless times now.
The etizolam isnt bad but id never abuse it. It helps me sleep thats about all i like about it. I could see how bad WD could be if i abused the hell out of it like some have lol but i wouldnt say im abusing it at 1mg
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ModestMouse said: That was a shit rebuttal, so the discussion is over. Thanks for reminding us etizolam is a thieno. That's really what we accomplished.

all I want to make sure was understood is to BE CAREFUL with etizolam.
also BE CAREFUL with benzos cuz they're essentially the same thing with variation in terms of potency, halflife, and perhaps what specific avenues of GABA pathways it hits, but that's something where the subjective aspects will vary or not vary depending on who you ask.
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Mr. Magic said: Im trying to quit my antidepressants right now. Its only been two days and everything is hell. I really hate those damn pills.
Worst withdrawals ive ever experienced. Ive tried quitting countless times now.
The etizolam isnt bad but id never abuse it. It helps me sleep thats about all i like about it. I could see how bad WD could be if i abused the hell out of it like some have lol but i wouldnt say im abusing it at 1mg
i tried antidepressents 3-4 times for 3-4 days each and it was HORRIBLE - i know something bad when I see it and stopped before it got worse. my psychiatrist sucked anyways so I didnt trust taking what he told me because it was a 1 sided relationship.
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I agree with Amanita. I have been using benzos for over 10 years. It's shitty, but I'm hopelessly addicted. Anyway, I have tried etizolam many times. You want to know the difference? Etiz lowers your inhibitions way more than any benzo that I have taken. It is a qualitative difference, I know. But, this is how it effects me. Etiz is a fucking evil drug. And whoever said that it doesn't get you high is wrong. The problem is, the dosages that get you high also turn you into a mumbing fucking idiot. So, if you take enough to feel a buzz, it is probably too late, but you'll want to lock yourself in a room without your phone or internet access. Because I guaran-fucking-tee you will do something that you will regret later. It is a shit drug. My advice to anybody thinking about trying it is to stay as far away from it as you can. It is not the same as benzos. You have more control on benzos.
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I agree it's evil. I also said it didn't get me higher then drinking 2-3 beers, even on 10-15mg a day for a few days. What was evil that my tolerance rose so fast I had to dose that high or else I felt literally nothing. I never became a mind numbing idiot or whatever you tried to say, I drove to University (dumb I know, over a year ago) and took exams during those days and did everything my normal day would entail, with a slight buzz about as strong as taking adderall or a few beers Reaction/thinking was completely lucid - I just had a really shitty memory and slight body buzz, even on the high doses.
Few times I took xanax I DID become a mind numbed idiot and couldn't move - it was awesome and way more enjoyable than etiz.
The WD's from 6 days of use is what scares me - 2 weeks of nightmarish OD's.
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You guys have me all worried now. Will i really withdraw from 1mg a day? I have a total of 22mg...say i keep taking 1mg every night until they are gone. Will i severily withdraw?
Ive been off and on ambien a lot, and it seems etiz gets compared to it quite a bit. I dont think ive ever really withdrawn from ambien, othen than rebound insomnia of course.
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Actually, etizolam because it is not a benzo, has less intense/serious WD than benzos and still possess's benzo-like effects. So you may have slight withdrawals over the course of a few days but nothing dramatically serious.
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If you have anxiety, go to a doctor. They'll put you on the right dose. Having unlimited amounts of etiz powder is gonna end up being a bad time.
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I think my doctor is completely clueless to the fact that you can have serious withdraws from them. Im getting a taste of everything and it sucks. It almost seems they dont believe me? Im just tapering myself off them.
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I've seen some ridiculous amounts prescribed for sure. I knew someone who was so legitimately hopped up on benzos that she couldn't function, let alone get out of bed but she was just complying with her Rx medication regime.
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Few times I took xanax I DID become a mind numbed idiot and couldn't move - it was awesome and way more enjoyable than etiz.
The WD's from 6 days of use is what scares me - 2 weeks of nightmarish OD's.
I took ridiculous amounts and became a mind numbing idiot. 
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Ive been off and on ambien a lot, and it seems etiz gets compared to it quite a bit. I dont think ive ever really withdrawn from ambien, othen than rebound insomnia of course.
I think it depends what you are taking it for. If you are just taking it for recreation, then I think it is easier to get off of it. I take k-pins for sleep and I have become completely reliant on them. When I have quit them in the past, I went through nightmarish W/D. I couldn't sleep for weeks etc. If you are taking it for anxiety every time you have anxiety, then stopping will be a real bitch. The problem is they are both psychologically and physically addicting. That psychological game really fucks me up because I have chronic insomnia and they work.
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hTx said: Actually, etizolam because it is not a benzo, has less intense/serious WD than benzos and still possess's benzo-like effects. So you may have slight withdrawals over the course of a few days but nothing dramatically serious.
That sounds awfully optimistic to me. Sorta like a line that a pharm company would give when releasing a new drug, but I doubt that is true in any sense. This drug would be much more popular and widely used if you could really have your cake and eat it too.
Do you have anything credible to back that up?
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hTx said: Actually, etizolam because it is not a benzo, has less intense/serious WD than benzos and still possess's benzo-like effects. So you may have slight withdrawals over the course of a few days but nothing dramatically serious.
That sounds awfully optimistic to me. Sorta like a line that a pharm company would give when releasing a new drug, but I doubt that is true in any sense. This drug would be much more popular and widely used if you could really have your cake and eat it too.
Do you have anything credible to back that up?
That quote is total horseshit at least in my experience. I was up all night for over 7 days vomiting and taking cold baths thinking I was gonna die after only 6 days of use. WD's lasted OVER 2 weeks from 6 days of use. Felt like I had been drugged and/or poisoned (well I guess I technically drugged myself ). Worst time of my life.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: pfxtc]
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I'm pretty sure they're basically interchangeable. Like not many people would make a big stink if someone called fentanyl an opiate, which technically it isn't but in the context of being an opiate addict and using fentanyl, it is essentially an opiate.


The difference seems much more pronounced even, yet it is commonly understood that fent is "synthetic heroin" which is a name that gets thrown around pretty lightly these days, but in this case it is true. I think the same could be said of etizolam vs traditional benzos, so other than to justify abuse I don't see why someone would want to diminish the obvious similarities.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Mr. Magic]
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i've never posted on this site before but this is #1 on my list of shit to try. i wish i could find it. i always run out of my clonazepam script before the month is over because i have severe anxiety and need benzos. i'd like to use this for when i run out.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: fatmane]
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fatmane said: i've never posted on this site before but this is #1 on my list of shit to try. i wish i could find it. i always run out of my clonazepam script before the month is over because i have severe anxiety and need benzos. i'd like to use this for when i run out.
Omg dude, I wouldn't use benzos frequently due to withdrawals.
I have anxiety too but.. Without it for the first at least two weeks is the worst.
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I took all the etizolam once.
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Ha this post...and im still taking it to this day.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Mr. Magic]
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Etiz is pretty sweet until you get addicted. If much prefer clonozolam now.
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Clonazolam is bad news. I hope you're not taking it every day Malc, I've been there and the withdrawal is insane. Worse than alpraz
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hex_enduction said: Clonazolam is bad news. I hope you're not taking it every day Malc, I've been there and the withdrawal is insane. Worse than alpraz
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hex_enduction said: Clonazolam is bad news. I hope you're not taking it every day Malc, I've been there and the withdrawal is insane. Worse than alpraz
Mr magic, try and take a day off etiz, I dare ya 
unfortunately I have. Only for maybe two weeks though. I've been through WD before so I kinda already know what to expect. I got some valerian root, magnesium and other supplements that seem to help a little. i'll be straight again in a week or so.
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Fuck man, well good luck. Figure I should warn you that it was much much worse than etiz w/d for me, and I never even took it that long consistently. You'll probably be fine but if I were you I'd taper a bit before jumping off.
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Is a benzo WD similar to an opiate WD?
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Zombi3]
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i'm prescribed clonazepam (and unfortunately i'm addicted - i've been taking it for almost ten years now). but i don't abuse benzos. i don't know how i could at this point with my tolerance. but i wanted something extra around in case i needed to take more so i wouldn't run out of my clonazepam too early. working full time and attending university can get extremely stressful.
i bought a big bottle of etizolam 2mg tablets and it lasted for about a year if i'm not mistaken. it was nice. they were there when i needed them and i never felt the urge to down palm-fulls of them. the only reason i haven't refilled is that the bottles were expensive. it's been a couple of years now; not sure if my vendor is still around.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Zombi3]
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The thiophene ring substitution of traditional chems like diazapam or alprazolam make alternatives such as etizolam or the trademarked olanzepine make good medical choices as they pose less of a W/D risk than traditional medicines. I've mentioned olanzapine several times on this site and usually get a little flack (or flamed even) but it is NOT a terrible drug IF used respectfully with care. It has a 60hr half-life, so one single dose is well-enough to flatten a bad trip or an anxiety episode. However for people with serious mental issues who can't figure out how to meditate or tame the beast within, stopping a psyche med, or only using it occasionally can prove difficult because the inevitable W/D symptoms mimic many serious conditions. Olanzepine W/D (after months of continuous dosing) most notably cause a mildly elevated body temp with some flu-like symptoms and the other weirdness that happen on the edge of sleep eventually fade. I feel sorry for the guys and gals that need it daily and imagine someone with legit hppd or worse might really struggle with the W/Ds.
Granted, big pharm and your local HMOs try to pump (olanzepine) at like 20mg and up but it is effective at just 5mg or even less. They are cranking out junkies essentially. Causing hallucinations and anxiety disorders by default and then "treating" them with more drugs. It's the 'golden lifetime' plan, where you can take drugs until you die and your insurance will pay for it. Hell, your insurance will pay for your coffin too.
etiz- being a fast acting thiophene subbed benzo probably has a more pronounced withdrawl, I'd imagine it's for this reason the compound is not used widely in western medicine. Alprazolam is already their 'problem child' and the longer acting drugs are more appropriate in the eyes of establishment, like the klonopin or seroquel type stuff.
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Additionally, olanzapine also exhibits a relatively low affinity for serotonin 5-HT1, GABAA, beta-adrenergic receptors, and benzodiazepine binding sites.
so don't flame me for trying to be informed.
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I've never experienced opiate wd, but I've withdrawn from kratom before, and benzo wd is nothing like that. For me, there's no cravings really like there are with kratom, just an awful headache, my head always feels like it's about to fucking explode or like its pulsing with electricity or some shit. And I can't sleep for shit, not for 5 minutes, no matter how much valerian or DPH or whatever I take. Really, really not fun.
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benzo withdrawal is pure hell. i was prescribed clonazepam before they figured out it's highly addictive. had refill drama a couple of times. it's not cool. i'm hoping at some point they'll have meds to get me off of clonazepam.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: millzy]
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millzy said: i'm prescribed clonazepam (and unfortunately i'm addicted - i've been taking it for almost ten years now). but i don't abuse benzos. i don't know how i could at this point with my tolerance.
have you tried olanzepine before? Ask your Dr. maybe it could help you get off the clonazepam? Granted it's sorta just trading one for the other...
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: travelleler]
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Thought about looking into Valium or diclazepam tapers millzy? I'm trying to taper off benzos myself using diclazepam. Hasn't been easy, but I feel way better on this low dose of diclazepam than I ever did when I was taking 2-5mg of alpraz a day at least
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hex_enduction said: Thought about looking into Valium or diclazepam tapers millzy? I'm trying to taper off benzos myself using diclazepam. Hasn't been easy, but I feel way better on this low dose of diclazepam than I ever did when I was taking 2-5mg of alpraz a day at least
Were you mocking me when you said to try and take a day off my etiz? Youre trying to taper off a benzo yourself so i hope thats not how you meant it 
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Zombi3]
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DPH is really weird sometimes.
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