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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Mr. Magic]
#22148701 - 08/26/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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pfxtc said: I agree it's evil. I also said it didn't get me higher then drinking 2-3 beers, even on 10-15mg a day for a few days. What was evil that my tolerance rose so fast I had to dose that high or else I felt literally nothing. I never became a mind numbing idiot or whatever you tried to say, I drove to University (dumb I know, over a year ago) and took exams during those days and did everything my normal day would entail, with a slight buzz about as strong as taking adderall or a few beers Reaction/thinking was completely lucid - I just had a really shitty memory and slight body buzz, even on the high doses.
Few times I took xanax I DID become a mind numbed idiot and couldn't move - it was awesome and way more enjoyable than etiz.
The WD's from 6 days of use is what scares me - 2 weeks of nightmarish OD's.
I took ridiculous amounts and became a mind numbing idiot. 
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Mr. Magic said: You guys have me all worried now. Will i really withdraw from 1mg a day? I have a total of 22mg...say i keep taking 1mg every night until they are gone. Will i severily withdraw?
Ive been off and on ambien a lot, and it seems etiz gets compared to it quite a bit. I dont think ive ever really withdrawn from ambien, othen than rebound insomnia of course.
I think it depends what you are taking it for. If you are just taking it for recreation, then I think it is easier to get off of it. I take k-pins for sleep and I have become completely reliant on them. When I have quit them in the past, I went through nightmarish W/D. I couldn't sleep for weeks etc. If you are taking it for anxiety every time you have anxiety, then stopping will be a real bitch. The problem is they are both psychologically and physically addicting. That psychological game really fucks me up because I have chronic insomnia and they work.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: hTx]
#22153283 - 08/27/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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hTx said: Actually, etizolam because it is not a benzo, has less intense/serious WD than benzos and still possess's benzo-like effects. So you may have slight withdrawals over the course of a few days but nothing dramatically serious.
That sounds awfully optimistic to me. Sorta like a line that a pharm company would give when releasing a new drug, but I doubt that is true in any sense. This drug would be much more popular and widely used if you could really have your cake and eat it too.
Do you have anything credible to back that up?
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hTx said: Actually, etizolam because it is not a benzo, has less intense/serious WD than benzos and still possess's benzo-like effects. So you may have slight withdrawals over the course of a few days but nothing dramatically serious.
That sounds awfully optimistic to me. Sorta like a line that a pharm company would give when releasing a new drug, but I doubt that is true in any sense. This drug would be much more popular and widely used if you could really have your cake and eat it too.
Do you have anything credible to back that up?
That quote is total horseshit at least in my experience. I was up all night for over 7 days vomiting and taking cold baths thinking I was gonna die after only 6 days of use. WD's lasted OVER 2 weeks from 6 days of use. Felt like I had been drugged and/or poisoned (well I guess I technically drugged myself ). Worst time of my life.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: pfxtc]
#22153454 - 08/27/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm pretty sure they're basically interchangeable. Like not many people would make a big stink if someone called fentanyl an opiate, which technically it isn't but in the context of being an opiate addict and using fentanyl, it is essentially an opiate.


The difference seems much more pronounced even, yet it is commonly understood that fent is "synthetic heroin" which is a name that gets thrown around pretty lightly these days, but in this case it is true. I think the same could be said of etizolam vs traditional benzos, so other than to justify abuse I don't see why someone would want to diminish the obvious similarities.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Mr. Magic]
#23118715 - 04/14/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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i've never posted on this site before but this is #1 on my list of shit to try. i wish i could find it. i always run out of my clonazepam script before the month is over because i have severe anxiety and need benzos. i'd like to use this for when i run out.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: fatmane]
#23118737 - 04/14/16 09:18 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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fatmane said: i've never posted on this site before but this is #1 on my list of shit to try. i wish i could find it. i always run out of my clonazepam script before the month is over because i have severe anxiety and need benzos. i'd like to use this for when i run out.
Omg dude, I wouldn't use benzos frequently due to withdrawals.
I have anxiety too but.. Without it for the first at least two weeks is the worst.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Mr. Magic] 2
#23118883 - 04/14/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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I took all the etizolam once.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Zombi3]
#23119722 - 04/15/16 06:33 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ha this post...and im still taking it to this day.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Mr. Magic]
#23119811 - 04/15/16 07:28 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Etiz is pretty sweet until you get addicted. If much prefer clonozolam now.
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Clonazolam is bad news. I hope you're not taking it every day Malc, I've been there and the withdrawal is insane. Worse than alpraz
Mr magic, try and take a day off etiz, I dare ya
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hex_enduction said: Clonazolam is bad news. I hope you're not taking it every day Malc, I've been there and the withdrawal is insane. Worse than alpraz
Mr magic, try and take a day off etiz, I dare ya 
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hex_enduction said: Clonazolam is bad news. I hope you're not taking it every day Malc, I've been there and the withdrawal is insane. Worse than alpraz
Mr magic, try and take a day off etiz, I dare ya 
unfortunately I have. Only for maybe two weeks though. I've been through WD before so I kinda already know what to expect. I got some valerian root, magnesium and other supplements that seem to help a little. i'll be straight again in a week or so.
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Fuck man, well good luck. Figure I should warn you that it was much much worse than etiz w/d for me, and I never even took it that long consistently. You'll probably be fine but if I were you I'd taper a bit before jumping off.
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Is a benzo WD similar to an opiate WD?
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Zombi3]
#23119928 - 04/15/16 08:20 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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i'm prescribed clonazepam (and unfortunately i'm addicted - i've been taking it for almost ten years now). but i don't abuse benzos. i don't know how i could at this point with my tolerance. but i wanted something extra around in case i needed to take more so i wouldn't run out of my clonazepam too early. working full time and attending university can get extremely stressful.
i bought a big bottle of etizolam 2mg tablets and it lasted for about a year if i'm not mistaken. it was nice. they were there when i needed them and i never felt the urge to down palm-fulls of them. the only reason i haven't refilled is that the bottles were expensive. it's been a couple of years now; not sure if my vendor is still around.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Zombi3]
#23119993 - 04/15/16 08:40 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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The thiophene ring substitution of traditional chems like diazapam or alprazolam make alternatives such as etizolam or the trademarked olanzepine make good medical choices as they pose less of a W/D risk than traditional medicines. I've mentioned olanzapine several times on this site and usually get a little flack (or flamed even) but it is NOT a terrible drug IF used respectfully with care. It has a 60hr half-life, so one single dose is well-enough to flatten a bad trip or an anxiety episode. However for people with serious mental issues who can't figure out how to meditate or tame the beast within, stopping a psyche med, or only using it occasionally can prove difficult because the inevitable W/D symptoms mimic many serious conditions. Olanzepine W/D (after months of continuous dosing) most notably cause a mildly elevated body temp with some flu-like symptoms and the other weirdness that happen on the edge of sleep eventually fade. I feel sorry for the guys and gals that need it daily and imagine someone with legit hppd or worse might really struggle with the W/Ds.
Granted, big pharm and your local HMOs try to pump (olanzepine) at like 20mg and up but it is effective at just 5mg or even less. They are cranking out junkies essentially. Causing hallucinations and anxiety disorders by default and then "treating" them with more drugs. It's the 'golden lifetime' plan, where you can take drugs until you die and your insurance will pay for it. Hell, your insurance will pay for your coffin too.
etiz- being a fast acting thiophene subbed benzo probably has a more pronounced withdrawl, I'd imagine it's for this reason the compound is not used widely in western medicine. Alprazolam is already their 'problem child' and the longer acting drugs are more appropriate in the eyes of establishment, like the klonopin or seroquel type stuff.
From the wiki Quote:
Additionally, olanzapine also exhibits a relatively low affinity for serotonin 5-HT1, GABAA, beta-adrenergic receptors, and benzodiazepine binding sites.
so don't flame me for trying to be informed.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Zombi3]
#23120028 - 04/15/16 08:49 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've never experienced opiate wd, but I've withdrawn from kratom before, and benzo wd is nothing like that. For me, there's no cravings really like there are with kratom, just an awful headache, my head always feels like it's about to fucking explode or like its pulsing with electricity or some shit. And I can't sleep for shit, not for 5 minutes, no matter how much valerian or DPH or whatever I take. Really, really not fun.
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benzo withdrawal is pure hell. i was prescribed clonazepam before they figured out it's highly addictive. had refill drama a couple of times. it's not cool. i'm hoping at some point they'll have meds to get me off of clonazepam.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: millzy]
#23120056 - 04/15/16 08:59 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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millzy said: i'm prescribed clonazepam (and unfortunately i'm addicted - i've been taking it for almost ten years now). but i don't abuse benzos. i don't know how i could at this point with my tolerance.
have you tried olanzepine before? Ask your Dr. maybe it could help you get off the clonazepam? Granted it's sorta just trading one for the other...
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: travelleler]
#23120074 - 04/15/16 09:06 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thought about looking into Valium or diclazepam tapers millzy? I'm trying to taper off benzos myself using diclazepam. Hasn't been easy, but I feel way better on this low dose of diclazepam than I ever did when I was taking 2-5mg of alpraz a day at least
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