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Amanita86
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Not really..
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Amanita86
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Look here bro. You can call pig shit, and chicken shit the same all day long, "because they're similar".. but Im here to tell you, under that line of thought, you're not "much different" than these last two subjects of discussion..
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Amanita86]
#22143950 - 08/25/15 11:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You're really going to continue splitting hairs? I get what you're saying, but youre wasting your energy trying to warn us of differences between these incredibly similar chemicals. You haven't produced any evidence (not even subjective evidence!) of a difference in effect or action between thienos and benzos, at least concerning etizolam, so what are you trying to achieve?
Sure they're technically in different families, do they both work by the same mechanism as far as we can tell? Absolutely.
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Amanita86
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: ModestMouse]
#22143979 - 08/25/15 11:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Take them and tell me that... in fact, tell me benzos in general don't hit you differently.. since you're all about family.
I really couldnt give a shit much more than one human caring enough to give warning to another... but Im here to tell you, etizolam is NOT a benzo, and hits you very differently..
How about we put our differences aside and just agree you dont call a chemical that is in fact not a benzo, a benzo..eh?
Logical enough for you remarkably similar guy?
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Amanita86]
#22143988 - 08/26/15 12:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That was a shit rebuttal, so the discussion is over. Thanks for reminding us etizolam is a thieno. That's really what we accomplished.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: ModestMouse]
#22144001 - 08/26/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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ModestMouse said: That was a shit rebuttal, so the discussion is over. Thanks for reminding us etizolam is a thieno. That's really what we accomplished.

all I want to make sure was understood is to BE CAREFUL with etizolam.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: ModestMouse]
#22144013 - 08/26/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You never know... somebody who isnt familiar with how this chemistry play out may hear dumbfucks refer to a non benzo as a benzo, and get confused...
I would hate for some ignorant misunderstanding, dipshits post, to get someone in touble. So I brought it up..
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: ModestMouse]
#22144019 - 08/26/15 12:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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ModestMouse said: That was a shit rebuttal, so the discussion is over. Thanks for reminding us etizolam is a thieno. That's really what we accomplished.
...and Im almost convinced since the start of our conversation, you've had to look up the name of that changed ring, and thats probably the first time your keyboard has ever seen you type thieno...
Wake up "chemist"..
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Mr. Magic]
#22144176 - 08/26/15 01:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mr. Magic said: How is it? Ill have some soon. I want to use it for my anxiety.
If you have is it addictive. Ik its not a benzo but ive never taken them before.
Fuck the dr im already stuck on antidepressants and cant get off the shit.
Many years of addiction. You're playing with fire.
I know anxiety can be difficut but etizolam or benzos are not the answer. Its a downward spiral. I ended up needing more and more to get any effect. I was dosing thumb sized amounts of pure powder and taking opiates by the end of it and ultimately I over dosed and nearly died.
After a few weeks you get ued to any benzo or similar analogue such as etizolam. You will need more and more and become an addict. If you try and quit its worse than quitting heroin. I was shaking, having siezures, legs twitching. Think about the long term results buddy please
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Mr. Magic]
#22144226 - 08/26/15 01:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mr. Magic said: How is it? Ill have some soon. I want to use it for my anxiety.
If you have is it addictive. Ik its not a benzo but ive never taken them before.
Fuck the dr im already stuck on antidepressants and cant get off the shit.
When I was 17 years old (I'm 25 now), I ordered Etizolam from Europe. I contacted a site administrator and ask if I could send actual cash in the mail. I did it. He sent it to me here!!! It's funny. It's illegal in FL at-least. Guess what else happen? I was not home when it came int he mail and my mom flushed it down the toilet!!!!! bah hahahahahah. Thank God for mothers!!! Who knows what would of happen to me if I would of used that with such little experience at that age.
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Im trying to quit my antidepressants right now. Its only been two days and everything is hell. I really hate those damn pills.
Worst withdrawals ive ever experienced. Ive tried quitting countless times now.
The etizolam isnt bad but id never abuse it. It helps me sleep thats about all i like about it. I could see how bad WD could be if i abused the hell out of it like some have lol but i wouldnt say im abusing it at 1mg
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: pfxtc]
#22146034 - 08/26/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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pfxtc said:
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ModestMouse said: That was a shit rebuttal, so the discussion is over. Thanks for reminding us etizolam is a thieno. That's really what we accomplished.

all I want to make sure was understood is to BE CAREFUL with etizolam.
also BE CAREFUL with benzos cuz they're essentially the same thing with variation in terms of potency, halflife, and perhaps what specific avenues of GABA pathways it hits, but that's something where the subjective aspects will vary or not vary depending on who you ask.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Mr. Magic]
#22146211 - 08/26/15 12:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mr. Magic said: Im trying to quit my antidepressants right now. Its only been two days and everything is hell. I really hate those damn pills.
Worst withdrawals ive ever experienced. Ive tried quitting countless times now.
The etizolam isnt bad but id never abuse it. It helps me sleep thats about all i like about it. I could see how bad WD could be if i abused the hell out of it like some have lol but i wouldnt say im abusing it at 1mg
i tried antidepressents 3-4 times for 3-4 days each and it was HORRIBLE - i know something bad when I see it and stopped before it got worse. my psychiatrist sucked anyways so I didnt trust taking what he told me because it was a 1 sided relationship.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Amanita86]
#22147659 - 08/26/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I agree with Amanita. I have been using benzos for over 10 years. It's shitty, but I'm hopelessly addicted. Anyway, I have tried etizolam many times. You want to know the difference? Etiz lowers your inhibitions way more than any benzo that I have taken. It is a qualitative difference, I know. But, this is how it effects me. Etiz is a fucking evil drug. And whoever said that it doesn't get you high is wrong. The problem is, the dosages that get you high also turn you into a mumbing fucking idiot. So, if you take enough to feel a buzz, it is probably too late, but you'll want to lock yourself in a room without your phone or internet access. Because I guaran-fucking-tee you will do something that you will regret later. It is a shit drug. My advice to anybody thinking about trying it is to stay as far away from it as you can. It is not the same as benzos. You have more control on benzos.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22147881 - 08/26/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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4HO-DMT said: I agree with Amanita. I have been using benzos for over 10 years. It's shitty, but I'm hopelessly addicted. Anyway, I have tried etizolam many times. You want to know the difference? Etiz lowers your inhibitions way more than any benzo that I have taken. It is a qualitative difference, I know. But, this is how it effects me. Etiz is a fucking evil drug. And whoever said that it doesn't get you high is wrong. The problem is, the dosages that get you high also turn you into a mumbing fucking idiot. So, if you take enough to feel a buzz, it is probably too late, but you'll want to lock yourself in a room without your phone or internet access. Because I guaran-fucking-tee you will do something that you will regret later. It is a shit drug. My advice to anybody thinking about trying it is to stay as far away from it as you can. It is not the same as benzos. You have more control on benzos.
I agree it's evil. I also said it didn't get me higher then drinking 2-3 beers, even on 10-15mg a day for a few days. What was evil that my tolerance rose so fast I had to dose that high or else I felt literally nothing. I never became a mind numbing idiot or whatever you tried to say, I drove to University (dumb I know, over a year ago) and took exams during those days and did everything my normal day would entail, with a slight buzz about as strong as taking adderall or a few beers Reaction/thinking was completely lucid - I just had a really shitty memory and slight body buzz, even on the high doses.
Few times I took xanax I DID become a mind numbed idiot and couldn't move - it was awesome and way more enjoyable than etiz.
The WD's from 6 days of use is what scares me - 2 weeks of nightmarish OD's.
-------------------- koods said: Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus. Life-long trip report
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: pfxtc]
#22148434 - 08/26/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You guys have me all worried now. Will i really withdraw from 1mg a day? I have a total of 22mg...say i keep taking 1mg every night until they are gone. Will i severily withdraw?
Ive been off and on ambien a lot, and it seems etiz gets compared to it quite a bit. I dont think ive ever really withdrawn from ambien, othen than rebound insomnia of course.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Mr. Magic]
#22148462 - 08/26/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Actually, etizolam because it is not a benzo, has less intense/serious WD than benzos and still possess's benzo-like effects. So you may have slight withdrawals over the course of a few days but nothing dramatically serious.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: hTx]
#22148473 - 08/26/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you have anxiety, go to a doctor. They'll put you on the right dose. Having unlimited amounts of etiz powder is gonna end up being a bad time.
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Okay thanks. I know bitter cactus, but i just dont trust doctors anymore after my antidepressants.
I think my doctor is completely clueless to the fact that you can have serious withdraws from them. Im getting a taste of everything and it sucks. It almost seems they dont believe me? Im just tapering myself off them.
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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Mr. Magic]
#22148655 - 08/26/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've seen some ridiculous amounts prescribed for sure. I knew someone who was so legitimately hopped up on benzos that she couldn't function, let alone get out of bed but she was just complying with her Rx medication regime.
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