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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Amanita86]
    #22143558 - 08/25/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ok a double post, I made a double post but check it out..  etizolam has a sinister nature to it..  Im not a stranger to benzos.  Pretty familiar actually..  but etizolam is not your friend.  It has this, evil nature to it.  Everyone's chemistry is different but, etizolam is dark dark news man... and it slips up on you like a fucking viper.. its the one you dont see that gets you man..

Take it for what it is, I fucked up, but, that shit has a nature to it... and that nature is not good..

Nobody long term becomes a better person from it.  People destroy their lives saying.."yes yes, I'll use it responsibly"...and then they're fucking done..

The only place on this earth for etizolam, as far as I'm concerned, is riding down the water swirls of a flushed toilet..


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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Amanita86]
    #22143575 - 08/25/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I agree that etizolam blindsided me.
If I were to recommend a benzo it'd be klonopin or ativan. Less addictive.


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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #22143585 - 08/25/15 10:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The takeaway here should be that you cannot use benzos recreationally unless you have strong self control and awareness of habit-forming warning signs. They're arguably the most dangerous drug to get addicted to and probably the easiest save for opiates.

Benzos are great drugs; But you have to treat them with caution and care.

@pfx - don't justify dangerous drug use because it was only for a few days. I'm not trying to be a dick I'm saying reconsider what you advise others.



Another thing that needs to change NOW, is the calling of etizolam, a benzo.  Etizolam IS NOT, a benzo.. and people need to stop calling them that now.

It's a hack.. it needs to be referred to as the hack it is.. it's not a benzo.


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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #22143594 - 08/25/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The takeaway here should be that you cannot use benzos recreationally unless you have strong self control and awareness of habit-forming warning signs....







Everybody thinks that when they start using these drugs for "recreational" purposes.  If it doesn't get you high, where is the recreation?  By and large it is people self-medicating, no matter what they tell themselves before they black out and fuck up their life.


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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: moonrockmushy] * 2
    #22143603 - 08/25/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

denial?
I use benzos and have been for a year and a half without issue. I don't use everyday and since my first dance with etizolam I have not had withdrawals.

Perhaps recreation was the wrong word.
I used that because I derive recreation from a Workday tune-out every once in awhile. Society is bullshit sometimes and these babies silence all that. If you keep control you can use benzos without having an addiction.

*It's like chippers, people who use hard opiates on blue moons. I've never been one but they sure as shit exist.


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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #22143617 - 08/25/15 10:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Benzos are a shitty drug with some (but very little) medicinal value. Prolonged use of any kind just leads to bigger problems imo


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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #22143621 - 08/25/15 10:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Etizolam is not a benzo.


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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Detached]
    #22143627 - 08/25/15 10:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Benzos are a shitty drug with some (but very little) medicinal value. Prolonged use of any kind just leads to bigger problems imo



Which is why legit doctors dont prescribe them but for a few weeks.. and really, try to avoid them except in "worst case scenarios".

Dont get me wrong, true "benzos" serve a purpose, and a damn fine one at that... but rarely the purpose the benzo takers have in mind..


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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Amanita86]
    #22143632 - 08/25/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It's like a benzo though, you seem to be caught up on a pretty petty distinction.  It results in the same withdrawal, and can be used interchangeably as I understand it in terms of abating withdrawal.


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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Amanita86]
    #22143639 - 08/25/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You're correct but speculative science believes it works in a similar fashion on your brains GABA system.


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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22143651 - 08/25/15 10:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

There is a distinct difference... like synth cannabs, or marinol.  Or a fent analoge, or any other RC under the sun... there is a difference.. thats why when you map out those molecules, you see a difference... because there is a difference..


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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #22143667 - 08/25/15 10:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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You're correct but speculative science believes it works in a similar fashion on your brains GABA system.



Well two different strains of weed can have a drastic effect on the one applying those chemicals to their head.. and they use the same rings...

This fake shit uses different rings.  Its only safe to say, its not the same.  Because it isnt.  You point out the similarities, I'll point out the differences ok?


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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Amanita86]
    #22143677 - 08/25/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm curious, can you point out a subjective difference greater than the inherent differences in various drugs of the benzo class?

What I'm saying is they're incredible similar and we don't know enough to state exactly otherwise.


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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #22143689 - 08/25/15 10:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

We don't know enough? :ohyou:


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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Amanita86]
    #22143697 - 08/25/15 10:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Provide me some examples there, chemist.


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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #22143724 - 08/25/15 10:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Take them and find out.  Im not really sure I get your question.. are you suggesting when someone changes a complete molecule that differences dont occur, "because they're remarkably similar"?...


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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #22143736 - 08/25/15 11:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Im not a chemist btw, smartass..even though that was in my course work..


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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Amanita86]
    #22143761 - 08/25/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: PLURAL] * 1
    #22143765 - 08/25/15 11:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hold up, I got this one, I got thi...:manvsfish:


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Re: Anyone take etizolam before?? [Re: Amanita86] * 1
    #22143804 - 08/25/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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There is a distinct difference... like synth cannabs, or marinol.  Or a fent analoge, or any other RC under the sun... there is a difference.. thats why when you map out those molecules, you see a difference... because there is a difference..




:aweshit: marinol is lab synthesized delta9-THC.  There's a differences, but we also class drugs by effect and there is so much crossover between benzodiazepines and thienodiazepines that they are essentially in the same class of drugs.


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