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First DMT extraction. Need Info.
    #22092004 - 08/14/15 04:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hello Shroomery, I apologize if this is in the wrong section as i just joined.

I need some clarification on the STB Tek using Powdered Root Bark 50grams.

I heard of people getting sludge with the naptha and messing up the extraction due to the amount of water.

I will be using 300ml of water for 50 grams of powdered root bark. But i am afraid that is not enough water, and if i do add water, do i need to add more lye/Naptha

I read that im supposed to add 20% more water if you have powdered bark. I just need some clarifications so my first DMT extraction goes well. Thank you!


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Re: First DMT extraction. Need Info. [Re: tooper3]
    #22092087 - 08/14/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Use 300ml for the acid stage.

All together you want 1300-1500ml


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: First DMT extraction. Need Info. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22092143 - 08/14/15 05:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
Use 300ml for the acid stage.

All together you want 1300-1500ml



1300-1500ml? I am very misunmisunderstood... I am using this video to help walk me through: 


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Re: First DMT extraction. Need Info. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22092204 - 08/14/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Bill, he said he was doing a straight to base tek
so there is no acid.

Op, do 1 gram bark, to 1 gram lye, to 15ml of water.
This is the ratio i have worked out and it makes for
perfect levels and no emulsion.

I usually do 100g bark to 100g lye to 1500 ml water
and run 4 jugs at a time


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Edited by natedawgnow (08/14/15 06:07 PM)


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Re: First DMT extraction. Need Info. [Re: natedawgnow]
    #22092210 - 08/14/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you so much, but are you sure i shouldnt add a little more water because it is powdered bark or no?

EDIT: nevermind. So i am using 50grams of root bark, so 15ml for every gram, so 750 ml total.


Edited by tooper3 (08/14/15 06:12 PM)


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Re: First DMT extraction. Need Info. [Re: tooper3]
    #22092218 - 08/14/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm sure. 1g to 1g to 15ml is perfect. So 50g bark
to 50g lye to 750ml water is your mark.

Basify the water first and let it sit a bit then ad the
bark and gently slosh around periodically for up to 12
hours but really its up to you how long you wait.

Add naptha, gently slosh and pull


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Re: First DMT extraction. Need Info. [Re: natedawgnow]
    #22092228 - 08/14/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Bill over here fuckin shit up for a niga :kummeli:


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Re: First DMT extraction. Need Info. [Re: natedawgnow]
    #22092311 - 08/14/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

tooper3 said:
Thank you so much, but are you sure i shouldnt add a little more water because it is powdered bark or no?

EDIT: nevermind. So i am using 50grams of root bark, so 15ml for every gram, so 750 ml total.



Quote:

natedawgnow said:
I'm sure. 1g to 1g to 15ml is perfect. So 50g bark
to 50g lye to 750ml water is your mark.

Basify the water first and let it sit a bit then ad the
bark and gently slosh around periodically for up to 12
hours but really its up to you how long you wait.

Add naptha, gently slosh and pull



So how much naptha should i have if i have 750ml of water and 50grams of bark? 75ml of naptha?


Edited by tooper3 (08/14/15 06:37 PM)


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Re: First DMT extraction. Need Info. [Re: tooper3]
    #22092320 - 08/14/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The amount of solvent used does not really matter so much.

I usually just fill up the rest of the vessel I am using which equates
to about 200 ml.

In reality though, you can use as much or as little as you like, the only
outcome of using less is having to do more pulls to get all of the goods out.


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Re: First DMT extraction. Need Info. [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #22092336 - 08/14/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

MajickMuffin said:
Bill over here fuckin shit up for a niga :kummeli:





:lol:


my bad


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: First DMT extraction. Need Info. [Re: natedawgnow]
    #22092353 - 08/14/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

natedawgnow said:
The amount of solvent used does not really matter so much.

I usually just fill up the rest of the vessel I am using which equates
to about 200 ml.

In reality though, you can use as much or as little as you like, the only
outcome of using less is having to do more pulls to get all of the goods out.



Thanks for the help man, i highly aappreciate it. I'll get back to you with the results soon.


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Re: First DMT extraction. Need Info. [Re: tooper3]
    #22092357 - 08/14/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

tooper3 said:
Quote:

natedawgnow said:
The amount of solvent used does not really matter so much.

I usually just fill up the rest of the vessel I am using which equates
to about 200 ml.

In reality though, you can use as much or as little as you like, the only
outcome of using less is having to do more pulls to get all of the goods out.



Thanks for the help man, i highly aappreciate it. I'll get back to you with the results soon.



Its all good bro, my fault for not giving enough info in the process im using. Thanks though


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Re: First DMT extraction. Need Info. [Re: tooper3]
    #22092370 - 08/14/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

No problem! Are you using MHRB or ACRB?

To be honest, I have never had much luck with STB using ACRB.

I have gotten quite a lot of goo with ACRB, but that could be due to ACRB's high NMT content :shrug:

Anyway, good luck to ya! Definitely post results later


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Re: First DMT extraction. Need Info. [Re: natedawgnow]
    #22092524 - 08/14/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I am using MHRB. Heres my setup for when i do it

25 grams of MHRB, 25 grams of lye & 375ml of water and 75ml of Naptha per jar.

I will be using 2 jars for the 50g total.

Should everything work out?


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Re: First DMT extraction. Need Info. [Re: tooper3]
    #22092537 - 08/14/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ya it should. Just basify the water and add the bark and let it
basify for a while. Make sure to slosh it around and not shake too hard
for fear of creating an emulsion, though with those levels that is not likely.

I usually roll my jugs around on the floor or gently slosh it back and forth
for at least a couple hours periodically.

Add naptha and slosh around to mix, let it separate, then repeat the sloshing.
Do this every half hour or whenever you remember to shake it for at least a
few hours.

Pull and save till you finish at least 3 pulls and freeze precip after.
Or if you're impatient, you can precip pull by pull


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Re: First DMT extraction. Need Info. [Re: natedawgnow]
    #22092575 - 08/14/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

natedawgnow said:
Ya it should. Just basify the water and add the bark and let it
basify for a while. Make sure to slosh it around and not shake too hard
for fear of creating an emulsion, though with those levels that is not likely.

I usually roll my jugs around on the floor or gently slosh it back and forth
for at least a couple hours periodically.

Add naptha and slosh around to mix, let it separate, then repeat the sloshing.
Do this every half hour or whenever you remember to shake it for at least a
few hours.

Pull and save till you finish at least 3 pulls and freeze precip after.
Or if you're impatient, you can precip pull by pull



Alright thanks for the help again, you're a life saver. I'll be sure to get back to you with the results.


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Re: First DMT extraction. Need Info. [Re: natedawgnow]
    #22098844 - 08/16/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

natedawgnow said:
Ya it should. Just basify the water and add the bark and let it
basify for a while. Make sure to slosh it around and not shake too hard
for fear of creating an emulsion, though with those levels that is not likely.

I usually roll my jugs around on the floor or gently slosh it back and forth
for at least a couple hours periodically.

Add naptha and slosh around to mix, let it separate, then repeat the sloshing.
Do this every half hour or whenever you remember to shake it for at least a
few hours.

Pull and save till you finish at least 3 pulls and freeze precip after.
Or if you're impatient, you can precip pull by pull



Quote:

natedawgnow said:
Ya it should. Just basify the water and add the bark and let it
basify for a while. Make sure to slosh it around and not shake too hard
for fear of creating an emulsion, though with those levels that is not likely.

I usually roll my jugs around on the floor or gently slosh it back and forth
for at least a couple hours periodically.

Add naptha and slosh around to mix, let it separate, then repeat the sloshing.
Do this every half hour or whenever you remember to shake it for at least a
few hours.

Pull and save till you finish at least 3 pulls and freeze precip after.
Or if you're impatient, you can precip pull by pull



Hey man, instead of Naphtha, im going to use Bestine Heptane. Do i keep the measurements the same as i heard as it eevaporates much faster. Thanks


Edited by tooper3 (08/16/15 01:54 PM)


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Re: First DMT extraction. Need Info. [Re: tooper3]
    #22098880 - 08/16/15 02:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Measurements stay the same no matter what.

Heptane, Bestine, and Hexane are normally used as re crystallization
solvents after the original naptha freeze precip.

I have only ever used Hexane for this purpose and not as the main solvent,
but many claim it works just as well so :shrug:

The ratio of bark to lye to water remains the same no matter the solvent.


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Re: First DMT extraction. Need Info. [Re: natedawgnow]
    #22099524 - 08/16/15 05:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

natedawgnow said:
Measurements stay the same no matter what.

Heptane, Bestine, and Hexane are normally used as re crystallization
solvents after the original naptha freeze precip.

I have only ever used Hexane for this purpose and not as the main solvent,
but many claim it works just as well so :shrug:

The ratio of bark to lye to water remains the same no matter the solvent.



Alright thanks again.


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