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Re: Plastic Bowls for poo? [Re: JacobStorm]
    #22092823 - 08/14/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

PinPornProducer thanks, that's what I wanted to know. Also, as promised, I stopped by and got a couple pics on my way home. The first is just one of the pf jars from the side that's mostly colonized. The second shows his overall plan from jar to crumbling with poo in bowls, then crumbling bowls into pans with a little more poo and then casing.






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Re: Plastic Bowls for poo? [Re: thebug76]
    #22093014 - 08/14/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Micropore tape. Is that the same thing as breathable tape in the first aid section? We didn't see anything listed as micropore tape.


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Re: Plastic Bowls for poo? [Re: thebug76]
    #22093490 - 08/15/15 04:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thats some serious filtering you got going on thar :ducklol:


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Re: Plastic Bowls for poo? [Re: Yerow]
    #22093549 - 08/15/15 05:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

no point in having micropore tape on a colonizing substrate, just use a sheet of alu foil as cover and poke a few holes if you want (not really necessary)


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Re: Plastic Bowls for poo? [Re: spacechildo]
    #22094089 - 08/15/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yerow  yea I know. I told him pf jars don't need a filter, but he took 3" x 3"  sterile pads and cut them in fours and tapes them on top.

Spacechildo thanks, is the micropore tape the same as breathable tape tho? We may use it in the future if he goes past pf cakes.


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Re: Plastic Bowls for poo? [Re: thebug76]
    #22094375 - 08/15/15 10:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Micro-pore tape. Is that the same thing as breathable tape in the first aid section? We didn't see anything listed as micro-pore tape.




If you are bound and determined to use tape, (which I sometimes do on bulk trays)..... then the stuff called "paper tape" is at the grocery or pharmacy is the same thing....

Just stay away from the plastic tapes... such as "Trans-Pore", etc....:thumbup:


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Re: Plastic Bowls for poo? [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
    #22094458 - 08/15/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Micro-pore tape. Is that the same thing as breathable tape in the first aid section? We didn't see anything listed as micro-pore tape.




If you are bound and determined to use tape, (which I sometimes do on bulk trays)..... then the stuff called "paper tape" is at the grocery or pharmacy is the same thing....

Just stay away from the plastic tapes... such as "Trans-Pore", etc....:thumbup:





We're not determined to use tape. We'll use what works and isn't very expensive. The sterile pads run about 3.50 for a box of 24 and covers 96 jars when cut in qtrs, so that's what we've been doing. We're definitely open to experienced opinions tho. I'm helping him get started up, but neither of us really know anything more than my few months of reading on the subject. We've had no contams in jars yet (knock on wood), but everything we tried to go to bulk with contaminated.


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Re: Plastic Bowls for poo? [Re: thebug76]
    #22098803 - 08/16/15 01:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Micro-pore tape. Is that the same thing as breathable tape in the first aid section? We didn't see anything listed as micro-pore tape.




If you are bound and determined to use tape, (which I sometimes do on bulk trays)..... then the stuff called "paper tape" is at the grocery or pharmacy is the same thing....

Just stay away from the plastic tapes... such as "Trans-Pore", etc....:thumbup:





We're not determined to use tape. We'll use what works and isn't very expensive. The sterile pads run about 3.50 for a box of 24 and covers 96 jars when cut in qtrs, so that's what we've been doing. We're definitely open to experienced opinions tho. I'm helping him get started up, but neither of us really know anything more than my few months of reading on the subject. We've had no contams in jars yet (knock on wood), but everything we tried to go to bulk with contaminated.




Well, you pretty much just figured out the answer to your question then...lol.

I wish you good luck and prolific fruits! Take that 3 months of reading & put it to use. In the meantime it doesn't hurt taking advice from experienced growers...:thumbup:


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Re: Plastic Bowls for poo? [Re: thebug76]
    #22098970 - 08/16/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What is that on the lid, some kind of cotton?  You don't want to create a situation in your GE where you trap moisture in a bulky filter that might encourage molds to germinate there and possibly rain down spores into the jar.  You should find a good lid TEK.


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Re: Plastic Bowls for poo? [Re: invitro]
    #22099099 - 08/16/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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What is that on the lid, some kind of cotton?  You don't want to create a situation in your GE where you trap moisture in a bulky filter that might encourage molds to germinate there and possibly rain down spores into the jar.  You should find a good lid TEK.




I know pf jars really don't need a filter, but he insists. It's 3" x 3" sterile pads cut into quarters and taped on. We're planning on buying the lids made for this in a few weeks.


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Re: Plastic Bowls for poo? [Re: thebug76]
    #22100402 - 08/16/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The FC we're planning to use, from what I can tell, is similar to a martha. It's a 36" x 27" x 7' closet that we've lined with plastic and are planning to put 4 shelves in with a few inches open on both sides of the shelves to allow for air/humidity circulation. We have a cool mist humidifier.

It works in my head, but then again, I know very little about cultivation. Any suggestions on improvements?


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Re: Plastic Bowls for poo? [Re: thebug76]
    #22100415 - 08/16/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Try something along the lines of this: there's at least a bunch of stuff you could learn if you read it all the way through

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18322939


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Re: Plastic Bowls for poo? [Re: Mad Season]
    #22100464 - 08/16/15 09:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I used to grow in a greenhouse it produced very well but was a real pain in the ass....it takes a lot more time than you/I initially thought I ran a coolmist on the bottom shelf which I modified to incorporate a pond fogger which worked great until it shit out my coolmist when I was outta town for a weekend needless to say I threw 12 6qt trays away when I got home after that I pit my fogger in a half gallon jar and boomed for another few months until my replacement coolmist broke again. I run monotubs now mostly 58qt cheapos and im never going back they are so much easier on prep cleaning maintanence and no electric required plus it goesnt take a couple weeks each season change to dial in like a greenhouse good luck bud :thumbup:


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Re: Plastic Bowls for poo? [Re: tetherface]
    #22100497 - 08/16/15 09:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks, both of you. The greenhouse link is really alot like what we're planning, but the more I read about monotubs, the more I'm thinking of going that route. It does sound a little simpler.


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Re: Plastic Bowls for poo? [Re: thebug76]
    #22100540 - 08/16/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i can vouch for that. it depends what your goals are with cultivating. if you want a lot of weight in cubes then i would go with monotubs. they are extremely simple and once you get pasteurization down and get a source for Hpoo you can pile the fruits up like crazy.  using just coir and verm/gypsum works well too and you dont have to properly pasteurize but Hpoo is really where its at. my tubs colonize in 4-6 days and the fruits are always nice.

if you want more versatility with what your growing a green house will be good. you can do smaller trays with different species as long as they have similar needs and you can grow different types of cubes if you just want to see how they all look or whatever


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Re: Plastic Bowls for poo? [Re: Mdahmer]
    #22100554 - 08/16/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hpoo isn't a problem. My neighbor said I can have all I can handle.


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Re: Plastic Bowls for poo? [Re: thebug76]
    #22100568 - 08/16/15 09:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

well hell yea then man. i'm lucky to live in an area with a bunch of wild horses so i can just go out and collect as much as i want. a good hpoo source is like brown gold.

i have done a few runs pasteurizing on the stove top but then i switched to using the double muda bucket. it works well for me and you can do fairly large amounts at once. you just have to get your system down.


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Re: Plastic Bowls for poo? [Re: thebug76]
    #22148607 - 08/26/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

UPDATE: spawned to hpoo yesterday. They're already recovering which seems like a good sign from what I've read. My only question now is about the holes in top. Too many? Not enough? What you guys think?



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Re: Plastic Bowls for poo? [Re: thebug76]
    #22148616 - 08/26/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

it's fine


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Re: Plastic Bowls for poo? [Re: thebug76]
    #22148729 - 08/26/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I know pf jars really don't need a filter, but he insists. It's 3" x 3" sterile pads cut into quarters and taped on. We're planning on buying the lids made for this in a few weeks.




A little late but if he "insists" still, you should let him know that those being there increases the chance of contamination because there are already spores that have fallen through the holes, with or without the pads, but with the pads, you cause the dry verm layer to become moist, which can wick contams right down into the jar.

I hope that's not what ended up happening.  If it is, you'll find out real soon.

Don't let people who don't know what they're doing "insist" things about growing though, that gets dangerous fast.


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