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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22107094 - 08/19/15 12:07 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Damn, I think this is ready to case and i'm not. how long could I let the bulk sub colonize before putting to fruit. I'm thinking if pins start showing in colonizing then you should put it to fruit. So am I correct I can wait that long before casing? or if pins show its too late to case with peat?


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22107117 - 08/19/15 12:09 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

nice shrooms!


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: abductee]
    #22107180 - 08/19/15 12:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Damn, I think this is ready to case and i'm not. how long could I let the bulk sub colonize before putting to fruit. I'm thinking if pins start showing in colonizing then you should put it to fruit. So am I correct I can wait that long before casing? or if pins show its too late to case with peat?





Awesome, bro! Worth a second look. Can't wait to see the fruits! You must be pretty happy.

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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: Ajahn Don]
    #22107211 - 08/19/15 12:30 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

u can case it with coir too if thats all u have on hand.

i don't really consolidate tubs unless i go uncased, then i wait for a FEW knots, but not many.

maybe someone else does that particular thing, and they will chime in.  i would be worried it would switch to fruiting mode, then u case it, and it gets confused, but thats just a guess


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: Ajahn Don]
    #22107243 - 08/19/15 12:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks Aj, I am pretty stoked, it seems like it colonized so fast 1:2 ratio, and I think its looking pretty nice. I'm trying to figure out how its going to grow, how the pins form, where and ect..
@ BL, What are knots? is that where it makes like a knuckle/knot and a few shrooms grow from that knot? I was also thinking it could confuse the mycelium if I mess up its rythym.


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: abductee]
    #22107381 - 08/19/15 01:05 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

i don't have a pic of just knots, but this one has pins and knots.  the knots are the really small white bumps that develop into primordia/pins


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22107458 - 08/19/15 01:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

cool, thanks for the visual. It seems that knots are primarily individual.


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22108428 - 08/19/15 05:22 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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i don't have a pic of just knots, but this one has pins and knots.  the knots are the really small white bumps that develop into primordia/pins






is that from that badass little tupperware grow from way back? thats always been one of my favorites on here. was it just a lid or something?


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: Mdahmer]
    #22108445 - 08/19/15 05:26 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

when I do my next tub i'm going to put some of my bulk spawn in this mini oreo's cup. tis only bout five inches high, but i'm' thinking put some holes in the sides 3 inches up, tape em, add some of my bulk spawn and put a lid on it, and when its ready to fruit just put a sandwich bag over it with an elastic. I think it would work.


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: abductee]
    #22108476 - 08/19/15 05:33 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

yea little things like that always look so badass when you get a good pinset.

i remember reading once about someone making little cups like that and giving them out as christmas presents or something like that. they were probably edibles though but still its a pretty cool idea


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22108492 - 08/19/15 05:37 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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well…i feel bad for making y'all wait cause i cased that shit thick…hope this pin porn helps tide u over :crazy2:  all cased with peat :wink:

MS AA+ (straw/poo), harvested two times.


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Nice dicks :cookiemonster:

I always find my peat gets overrun with PE but I do prefer peat based casing for PE.


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22108742 - 08/19/15 06:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

has anyone on here used miracle grow peat moss? I have a bit left from prior experiments (which totally failed from bad spawn I think) but anyways I heard its ph balanced and there is no need for HL (I still used it and failed) just wondering if anyone has experience with this? I plan on casing a tub this week really I can just go get a bail but I don't like to be wasteful ya know? LEAF great thread awesome info and well written +5:mushroom2:for you


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: tetherface]
    #22108769 - 08/19/15 06:33 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

i just tried to search but couldnt find anything but i feel like i remember MG peat not being good. maybe magnesium content was too high? i cant be sure though but i would check your bag and see what the % of mag is


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: Mdahmer]
    #22108791 - 08/19/15 06:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

ill check the bag in the morning and report back its out in my garage and its raining balls outside


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: tetherface]
    #22108814 - 08/19/15 06:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

word. the more i think about it i dont think its mag that would be the problem thats with the different types of lime. but you never know maybe its got that high mag lime in it or some kind of strange fertilizer thats harmful.


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: Mdahmer]
    #22108881 - 08/19/15 06:55 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I've used Miracle Grow peat moss before. It works fine.


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: tetherface]
    #22108977 - 08/19/15 07:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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has anyone on here used miracle grow peat moss? I have a bit left from prior experiments (which totally failed from bad spawn I think) but anyways I heard its ph balanced and there is no need for HL (I still used it and failed) just wondering if anyone has experience with this? I plan on casing a tub this week really I can just go get a bail but I don't like to be wasteful ya know? LEAF great thread awesome info and well written +5:mushroom2:for you



PH balanced for what though?  The mushroom cultivator fortifies their casings with agricultural grade hydrated lime to spike the PH of the casing layer up to 14 so that no microorganisms will find the substrate suitable to germinate upon. 

Nutrition rich casing materials are counter productive to the purpose of the casing layer and should be avoided.


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: hamloaf]
    #22109106 - 08/19/15 07:52 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

i used it a lot when i first started.  i don't like the fertilizers.  not sure if that counts as a nutritive source for mold.  had mixed results, but this was also in my first few months of bulk, so many issues could have been at fault.

it has less sticks than what i get now, thats for sure.

it was PH neutral when i used it according to my strips.
but, the point of the write up was to show that Ph is less important than we might first believe.  gypsum and/or limestone are A-OK, just need more than u would for hydrated lime, but also u get extended Ph protection (if u care about that).
the PE tubs i posted earlier have no verm, and no hydrated lime, and they're doing fine.


air flow and clean spawn are the most important part of avoiding contamination.


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22109132 - 08/19/15 08:01 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Gypsum is a PH buffer/stabilizer.  Hydrated lime is a PH spiker.  Extended PH protection would be beneficial for species that need to be cased but take a long time to pin like subtropical psilocybe species of mushrooms.


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: hamloaf]
    #22109135 - 08/19/15 08:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

call it whatever u want man.  my point is, it works.


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