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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22103094 - 08/18/15 12:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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its getting late in the year, so bales might be hard to come by.



Yeah, I had trouble finding some late in the season last year. One place I found had some but wouldn't\couldn't sell me any because all the bales were frozen together on a pallet! I eventually found enough to get me through the winter, but I'm about to start stocking up for this winter so that doesn't happen again!


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: Juiceh]
    #22103198 - 08/18/15 12:26 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I started with rye and just liked working with it better,doesnt get everywhere.. but the best results i've had was with wbs (no contams,fast colonization), I think that's just what i've been using while my skills and cultures have gotten better. :laugh: but now I dont mind working with wbs.. Its been working for me so i'll going to stick with it a little bit, maybe i'll try rye again in the near future.


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: abductee]
    #22103216 - 08/18/15 12:30 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

canadian tire had peat, but no hydrated lime. they had gypsum and perelite. I should have grabbed the gypsum, but I was going to walmart and thought they would have it, so I didnt want to bike there with the extra weight, but walmart didnt have gypsum.. lol I've been using my mortar and pestle to crush this piece of drywall. it works but i''d love to go through a recipe without sitting their crossed legged peeling and grounding away.lol 

sorry, this recipe doesn't call for it, but I did see it some where and it caught my eye. I have verm.

What coir casing would you suggest?


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: abductee]
    #22103249 - 08/18/15 12:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

yea, i used to do the dry wall thing too.  and chalk board chalk.

if i case with coir, i do it at spawning and mainly with straw only tubs, not after 100% colonization like i would with Peat.  but i fruit it around 30% and patch it.  same standard CVG bucket TEK.  sometimes i don't add verm, but i think it helps to.


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22103271 - 08/18/15 12:46 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

i think pasty and muda have some better ideas with coir casing that u would apply after colonization.  i think they use room temp water to hydrate the brick, making it harder for the myc to eat.  IME, coir is finicky, and from what i have seen, works best when the substrate itself is not composed of coir.
but then u can look at Franks grows, and he blows it out of the water every time, so i could just suck at using coir casings too :shrug:


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22103308 - 08/18/15 12:55 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Alright.. i think i'll just find the jiffy mix for now, but I also like doing things from scratch so i'll definitely be trying this tek next if not first. Ive looked through some of franks teks and others they are all well write and show great results..  I'm still looking for pins morning and night. ( ok I peak throughout the day and just check it out )


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: abductee]
    #22103320 - 08/18/15 12:57 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

"a watched pot never boils" :hehehe:

nah, i used to do that too.  coir casing can work great.  i just prefer peat in most cases (haha get it?!?!)


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22103387 - 08/18/15 01:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Nice mushrooms! Some of those colours and and dots ( forget the name) are fucken beautiful. Nice tubs, I'd work with straw, Nothing like a nice groomed bulk sub.
I spawned this to bulk on saturday


Here's the shoebox mono


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: abductee]
    #22103401 - 08/18/15 01:20 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Here's the shoebox mono




I think I see a questionable spot by the polyfil on the right side of the pic. :frown:


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: Juiceh]
    #22103740 - 08/18/15 02:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The back of my knuckles smudge the top while putting in my poly, I'm pretty sure it's that cause I was like fuck, it's smudged.lol I thought oh oh, but figured it won't ruin it and I hoped it would grow over.
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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: abductee]
    #22103754 - 08/18/15 02:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

i don't see anything to wrry about yet.

but next time, stuff ur holes from the outside.


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22103769 - 08/18/15 02:54 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I think I squeezed it to see how tight it is. Is that how you see how tight it is?


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: abductee]
    #22103780 - 08/18/15 02:58 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

well TBH, i just got a new kind of poly that seems thicker, so I'm a little lost myself.  cheap shit online, ya know?

if i case, its way more lenient.  if i accidentally stuff to loose, it really doesn't matter cause the casing is protecting the substrate.
but, i try to stuff ALMOST as tight as possible i'd say.  then over the next 2 days, i check the evap lines.  i want anywhere from 1/2"-1" along the bottom ones.


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22103804 - 08/18/15 03:04 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

it really comes down to reading ur tubs.  after a while, its easy.

some people want to think mushrooms are computers, and thats cool.  whatever makes u happy i guess.  but i don't think one solution will help all of us.  i have a window AC unit right now.  in 3-4 weeks, it will be off.  that means i have to re-dial the room back in.  if a mushroom was a computer, it could re-dial itself in.  but, i've never personally seen that, although a few members on the boards think they can manage a mono tub like that.

we'll see.  i don't have high hopes for that kind of mentality or set up though, no offense to those people.
i would use a green house if i wanted complete ACTIVE control.  this is a passive system.


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22103834 - 08/18/15 03:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yea, in between post I was thinking it comes down to your conditions and tub,bulk sub,casings ect..


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: abductee]
    #22103843 - 08/18/15 03:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

yea.  a lot of variables.
frank showed us the way though for the most part.
his grow logs are hands down a go-to for me.


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22103949 - 08/18/15 03:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I didn't read all this, but one thing I do differently is to use some bands to keep sub depth even. Lay down as many as you need, dump some casing in there, then level it all with the bands, using a ruler or something. Easy as fuck and makes it level and the perfect depth (for Cubensis anyway) every time.


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #22103972 - 08/18/15 03:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

yea, i remember u posting that a few months back.
thanks for the tip bro.  i generally just use the bottom holes as a guide, but i can see where that can help.


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22103978 - 08/18/15 03:49 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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i think pasty and muda have some better ideas with coir casing that u would apply after colonization.  i think they use room temp water to hydrate the brick, making it harder for the myc to eat.  IME, coir is finicky, and from what i have seen, works best when the substrate itself is not composed of coir.
but then u can look at Franks grows, and he blows it out of the water every time, so i could just suck at using coir casings too :shrug:



What ratio of coir to verm were You using? It treats me well with a 50/50 ratio of each. Cvg or other substrates.


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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: eatyualive]
    #22103996 - 08/18/15 03:53 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

i just use dam ion TEK i think.  1 brick, 2 qts, 4-5 qts water.  depending on how the brick itself feels, i change water.  sometimes its SUPER compact, so i add 5 qts.  sometimes, seems like humidity in shiping/storing made it expand just a little, so ill do 4.5 qts.

but i only use coir "casing" at spawning.  i don't ever do it after 100%.
its basically a top layer if my tub is all/mostly straw.  but i make it thick, at least 1/2" (usually more)
i want it thick so it doesn't colonize before/same time as substrate below.  straw runs FAST, as I'm sure u know eat cause u use it too, so if its a thin layer, it will act more as a substrate than a casing.


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