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blindingleaf
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oh nice dude!! sounds cool. i've always read meters were not as reliable as strips, maybe you could explain why, i've never asked someone IRL about that. what kind of brand are u using?
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FreeWorldOrder


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blindingleaf said: oh nice dude!! sounds cool. i've always read meters were not as reliable as strips, maybe you could explain why, i've never asked someone IRL about that. what kind of brand are u using?
Actually you are right about strips being good.
As far as testers go, you don't want the ones that test all sorts of shit...like the 4-in-1.... 5-in-1....etc. But a PH meter that ONLY test for PH. The reason being is that the multy tested have the graph that you read wherever the pointer goes. This alone will obviosly not be accurate, and only giving the user a very basic idea. The one I am going to picture reads only PH. So it is calibrated as such, without all the other stuff.
They key to using this tested is to have the substrate, casing, whatever you are testing at field capacity when you do the reading. If it is dry the tester will not read. This goes the same as when measuring soils, and soil-less mixes for plants.
Another thing to take into consideration is the fact all well water, city, water, bottled water all has a varied PH as well. So when using this type of meter, the casing, or sub materials need to be mixed very well with the water you are using and let it sit for awhile....
But so far, this $12 tester has worked great and proven itself time and again....
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Alkaloids
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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: cronicr]
#22096900 - 08/15/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Very well done write-up blindingleaf.
A quick question for you. Why do you use the hydrated lime? The additional hazards of working with it have never been very enticing to me. It seems to me that you already accomplish your buffering needs with the powdered limestone.
Thanks for offering such clear directions for this casing tek.
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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: Alkaloids]
#22096916 - 08/15/15 11:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lime might seem like overkill but given that the only time I ever case cubes with peat is for PE or APE, I like having a few more days on my side. Hydrated lime is something I like to have in the mix. But I have made peat work without it as well.
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stonesun
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Nice write up! When I don't use cactus or Jiffy mix (usually have extra of these laying around as leftover from planting) I do use the Lambert peat moss, it's great quality. If you have the space - I do have a 3 car garage - it's a great deal to buy the 3 cu ft bag. I also have a 4 cu ft bag of vermiculite right next to it. I've been using both of these for well over a year and still got some. Just found a picture, it's in the bottom left corner...
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blindingleaf
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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: stonesun]
#22097490 - 08/16/15 03:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alkaloids said: Very well done write-up blindingleaf.
A quick question for you. Why do you use the hydrated lime? The additional hazards of working with it have never been very enticing to me. It seems to me that you already accomplish your buffering needs with the powdered limestone.
Thanks for offering such clear directions for this casing tek.
thanks man! its just for some added protection really.
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stonesun said: Nice write up! When I don't use cactus or Jiffy mix (usually have extra of these laying around as leftover from planting) I do use the Lambert peat moss, it's great quality. If you have the space - I do have a 3 car garage - it's a great deal to buy the 3 cu ft bag. I also have a 4 cu ft bag of vermiculite right next to it. I've been using both of these for well over a year and still got some. Just found a picture, it's in the bottom left corner...

that means a lot coming from you man, thank you.
there ya go folks, "lambert" peat is just fine!!
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cronicr



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 going to follow your process today to case some woodlovers
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blindingleaf
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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: cronicr]
#22099116 - 08/16/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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cool! i cased my gyms with this. good luck!
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cronicr



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i'm casing ovoids and allenii lost my cyans and azurs though...sat for too long i guess
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blindingleaf
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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: cronicr]
#22099142 - 08/16/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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nice! keep us updated!
i've been losing a battle with moldy pan cyan cultures since june  think i got it going well on grains now though.
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cronicr



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i always have a hard time growing in the summer mind you it gets way too hot here and i get crabby and my technique tends to go out the window
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blindingleaf
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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: cronicr]
#22099173 - 08/16/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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yea, its tough. i rely on window AC unit, but then that fucks up Rh of room, so its balance for sure. I'm ok with the results so far, so i think i might just take the hit with the dryness for a few more weeks till fall rather then re arranging everything, because (knock on wood) my contam rate is low, fruiting wise.
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d0urd3n
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BL did you just recently case gyms? Or was this in the past? Grown gyms much?
Stonesun he said he saw no difference between casing and not casing gyms. I have only grown them uncased.
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blindingleaf
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Re: Peat moss casing [Re: d0urd3n]
#22099276 - 08/16/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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yea, i always case gyms. i saw stone suns comparison, i personally thought his grow that was cased did better, not sure what his take on it now is.
this was my last grow, but it was at the last place i lived, and in btw moving, i couldn't mist so they all aborted. it was an open air bucket.

in "my favorite grows" link, u can see the gyms i did this is after some harvest, pics all over the place.

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blindingleaf
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all of the times i grew gymnopolis was all from stone suns prints too i have a jar kicking around thats been 100% for almost a month now at room temp. maybe ill do something with it.
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blindingleaf said: yea, i always case gyms. i saw stone suns comparison, i personally thought his grow that was cased did better, not sure what his take on it now is.
this was my last grow, but it was at the last place i lived, and in btw moving, i couldn't mist so they all aborted. it was an open air bucket.

in "my favorite grows" link, u can see the gyms i did this is after some harvest, pics all over the place.
 
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filthyknees
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Just visited bl and saw this in action. He's a wizard!
I think I'll give casing a try now. Results speak for themselves.
Taught me a lot. Thank you!
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blindingleaf
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u can come back and visit any time dude
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d0urd3n
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Wish I could hang out with you two.
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