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Potency Surprise
#22091054 - 08/14/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well I was wanting to try some Treasure Coast shrooms due to hearing good reviews about their potency. I couldn't get any spore vials so I ordered a few grow kits.
Anyway I thought they were really odd little shrooms compared to the b plus and golden teacher I had grown previously. Very tiny and closely packed and oh SO many of them. When I harvested I also noticed that the ones I damaged practically bled blue.
Well I had my first trip on them yesterday and both my boyfriend and I had our heads blown off lol. The idea was to go chill out in a quiet park of the local park but by the time we got there we were raving about seeing fairies and vikings. I totally couldn't control my thoughts and ended up believing I was some part of a never ending god consciousness and I'd done everything and had been everything that had ever lived an infinite amount of times.
It was totally bat shit crazy...
I'm totally not believing anyone who says a cube is a cube again because this was grown on the same stuff in the same conditions and it was a totally different beast!
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#22091133 - 08/14/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's awesome!....A cube is a cube, though and genetics are a crap shoot ...sounds like you hit the lottery...you should think about cloning one on agar.
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I'll have to look into it because I don't have a clue how it's done.
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Re: Potency Surprise [Re: sarahnya]
#22091482 - 08/14/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Definitely sounds worth cloning. Never done it myself though. If I'm not mistaken you need a fresh specimen, so be quick.
How much did you take anyway, in grams?
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Re: Potency Surprise [Re: sarahnya] 1
#22091501 - 08/14/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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My guess is that this is the first time you've had a bunch of tiny cubes. The smaller cubensis tend to have more actives in them gram for gram compared to the bigger cubes.
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I took 3.5 my boyfriend had 4.5.
Yes they were only little, or the majority of them were. I had taken 4.5 of my previous batches before and they weren't as strong as this. I ate them dried whole and already had strong visuals within half an hour.
It really caught me offguard, I was expecting a BIT stronger but I was completely out of control. If I had known I wouldn't have taken this many in public, god knows what passerbys thought as I was telling the fairies to stop shoving candles in my face !
You live and learn I guess...
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Re: Potency Surprise [Re: sarahnya]
#22091699 - 08/14/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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sounds like a good time though! I grew TC's before and they were really nice. I had leftover spawn and decided to put it in a plastic tupperware container and case it. I only got a bunch of tiny mushrooms from it and they were apparently VERY potent. I didn't try them myself, but my friend did and he said that 8th I gave him was more potent than quarters he had consumed. He told me that his open eyed visuals were hard to differentiate from his closed eyed visuals. PE's are likely to catch people off guard too fyi
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Well it was a good time until I decided that there was no point in living because I'd already gone through life and made every choice possible. However even if I died I'd still be going round and round doing the same thing over and over forever. I didn't really like the concept of infinity either, it's one thing to think about it but another to actually think you've experienced it.
It was a bit of a mind fook tbh and I still feel a weird about it even now.... I really hope it doesn't put me off taking a large dose again as I really didn't enjoy the whole god consciousness thing.
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Re: Potency Surprise [Re: sarahnya]
#22092293 - 08/14/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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sarahnya said: Well it was a good time until I decided that there was no point in living because I'd already gone through life and made every choice possible. However even if I died I'd still be going round and round doing the same thing over and over forever. I didn't really like the concept of infinity either, it's one thing to think about it but another to actually think you've experienced it.
Yes, I've been close to that, although perhaps not as acute as this. It can be dangerous, even when you're together with a tripping partner. If the echoes of madness between the both of you start to work as an amplifier, then total hysteria can hit hard. On the other hand, being together when tripping this hard can also be the best medicine.
In one severe trip, my friend and I were in opposite phases. When the hysteria really hit me, he brought me down again. Only moments later the roles were reversed. This went on for quite a while (time didn't exist then). Had we been IN phase instead of opposite, it would have become very unpleasant indeed. ... He didn't trip for a long time after that.
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sarahnya said: It was a bit of a mind fook tbh and I still feel a weird about it even now.... I really hope it doesn't put me off taking a large dose again as I really didn't enjoy the whole god consciousness thing.
Well, now that you know it exists simply give it some time. You'll be all right. After that, approach it with more care, and keep some distance. We are only human. We all love it that god is good. But that Good is actually quite frightening can be a lot harder to digest.
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Re: Potency Surprise [Re: Hanz]
#22093017 - 08/14/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Can stuff like this happen at lower doses or is it just at the higher end ?
My boyfriend had the exact same thing but it didn't move him negatively like me. I don't think he understood it was taking a bad turn for me as he was having the time of his life and when I asked if we could take a walk he refused to move but I didn't want to tell him I was having a bad time and ruin his trip so I just sat there lost in my own thoughts which were getting far too wacky.
Anyway at least I had the sense to sit there and tell myself it would all be alright even if I had the overwhelming feeling my life was never going to be the same after seeing this lol
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#22093065 - 08/14/15 11:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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If something like that comes up you gotta sit with it. Trying to deflect it or run away from it only makes it worse. You can explore an idea without believing in it or being attached to it.
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Re: Potency Surprise [Re: sarahnya]
#22094556 - 08/15/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lower doses can have their own surprises, I guess. Especially when you are physically tired. A friend told me that once, after a low dose of shrooms on a tired night, he was convinced he had died. He remained calm. The trip itself did not completely overwhelm him. He wasn't swimming in fractals. But it was unpleasant and persistent.
Sorry, I don't mean to scare you with stories like this. I am sure that if you take care of set and setting, lower doses are pleasant and perfectly safe.
Take small steps. Love, Hanz.
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Re: Potency Surprise [Re: Hanz]
#22094845 - 08/15/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I love a nice medium trip in nature looking at how beautiful it is and then laid out in the sun on a blanket chilling and watching the clouds or listening to music.
Being god was a bit much for me, especially after those fairies had tormented me with their lanterns lol
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Re: Potency Surprise [Re: sarahnya]
#22095062 - 08/15/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's my level. Although closed eyed trips can be beautiful too. Or, if it involves an energetic substance, a nighttime walkabout in the woods... oh my, last month's hippyflip. Full moon, no clouds, good friends and, dig this, a puppy dog with a led light on its collar. Unforgettable! Lol.
Anyway, that too was a big potency surprise for me.
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Re: Potency Surprise [Re: Hanz]
#22095155 - 08/15/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sounds lush, I'm going to wait till autumn to explore the night a little more
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Re: Potency Surprise [Re: sarahnya]
#22095458 - 08/15/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lush it was. But the synergy between the truffles and the X caught me completely off guard. My friend had warned me it was ultra strong X, so we took only half what we had planned, same with the truffles. I like to have both the come-ups at exactly the same time, get it over with. But when they hit, omg. Total loss of control. What a trainwreck. The woods turned into cathedrals, the stars made love and multiplied. No redosing the entire night. And I usually love redosing 
A true potency surprise, although no godhead for me that night. Luckily all went well, just wasn't what I had planned. And the 36 hour hangover was awful.
Autumn will be here soon. Too bad there are no warm nights in autumn where I live... enjoy yours.
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Re: Potency Surprise [Re: sarahnya]
#22096198 - 08/15/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I totally couldn't control my thoughts and ended up believing I was some part of a never ending god consciousness and I'd done everything and had been everything that had ever lived an infinite amount of times.
I think some version of this is where stronger shroom trips tend to end up, not always, but it seems to be a persistent theme that people report.
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I really hope it doesn't put me off taking a large dose again as I really didn't enjoy the whole god consciousness thing.
If I take a large dose I often end up in a manic state convinced I'm God, spiraling my way through various delusions while my mind keeps racing....the kind of madness that Hanz is talking about. This kind of trip is a bit much, it feels like expending a lot of energy finding the answers to imaginary problems.
With a slightly lower (but still large) dose, I sometimes get the kind of experience which feels transcendent without being so completely delusional, but it's hard to judge the dose....sometimes it feels too much, other times like I didn't quite get there.
And sometimes I just prefer a trip which is solid and enjoyable and colorful with nothing particularly spiritual about it.
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Re: Potency Surprise [Re: Aldebaran]
#22096862 - 08/15/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's exactly right, it was like an insane delusion and my thoughts just became more and more warped.
I enjoy the loving, connected to the universe feeling but the actual god mode thing was as close to insanity as I ever want to be lol
Do you reckon 2g would be more appropriate? I'm worried now as I got a whole bunch of aborts, god knows how strong they will be!
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Re: Potency Surprise [Re: sarahnya]
#22097566 - 08/16/15 05:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Love it!!!
Happened to me sometimes too, even between flushes on the same tray. I maybe eat shrooms from my 3rd plush and.... SURPRISEEEEEEEEE!!! And BOOM... mind blow lol. Sometimes with weed too, despite I always smoke at the same times every day (and same amount as well, weighted and vaped)
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Re: Potency Surprise [Re: sarahnya]
#22097579 - 08/16/15 05:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't have any experience with aborts, but now you have some idea of the potency, if you dropped the dose down from 3.5 to 2g of the same stuff it should definitely make the trip a fair bit calmer.
If you have a heavy trip it can be good to make the next one a bit lighter and easier to handle, then on the next one after that you might want to go back up to 2.5 or 3g or whatever.
I think all you can do is adjust the dose up or down in reaction to what the previous trip was like. I usually trip on commercial sclerotia so the potency can vary quite a bit, I vary the dose up or down depending on the anticipated potency, experience of previous trips, and the kind of trip I'm in the mood for.
Sometimes its nice to be surprised, although it can be a bit too surprising if you get unusually high potency on the same day you decide to eat a larger quantity than before...
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Re: Potency Surprise [Re: Aldebaran]
#22097750 - 08/16/15 06:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Happened to me yesterday. Lying under skyes at dusk on 3g (test dose). Everything felt completely normal but way outta what mind could grasp. And it was desperately trying to grasp anything, but those attempts didn't really end well. It was nothing and everything. I didn't manage to let go of my mind, yet couldn't manage to keep it either. I was everything, realizing my form on this world and seeing how tiny that form (myself) is. I wished for sobriety.
Later, stars started dancing, there were plastic clouds and us two started giggling together, but the peak was just brutal.
That's the most accurate description I could come with...
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Re: Potency Surprise [Re: jcop]
#22097969 - 08/16/15 08:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's mental isn't it. I was stuck thinking, what am I gonna do now over and over because I literally thought I knew the meaning of life and it would be an endless repetition where nothing mattered, there was no right or wrong and I'd already made ever decision in my life so there was nothing else left to do except maybe lay down and die but even that wouldn't offer an escape.
At least if it happens again I can console myself with the knowledge that I will feel ok again when it's over, I actually believed at the time I was going to end up feeling like that forever lol
Horrible mind fook!
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Re: Potency Surprise [Re: sarahnya]
#22098047 - 08/16/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's it! No right or wrong, just everything and completely horribly neutral at that... I do know or think all this, but to feel it...
and the inability to describe what one went thru in human language even to self doesn't help either.
The strangest thing? I DO want to get there again after some time, and beyond even
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Re: Potency Surprise [Re: jcop]
#22098290 - 08/16/15 10:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I didn't manage to let go of my mind, yet couldn't manage to keep it either.
I think it makes the trip easier if you get to some kind of resolution or revelation at the peak where you feel like you've reached some kind of acceptance, where you merge in the trip with whatever seemed to be hostile, and feel a sense of euphoria and renewal. Being stuck at the threshold of losing your mind can be worse than just losing it...
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I literally thought I knew the meaning of life and it would be an endless repetition where nothing mattered, there was no right or wrong and I'd already made ever decision in my life so there was nothing else left to do except maybe lay down and die but even that wouldn't offer an escape.
...but on the other hand sometimes you reach some kind of revelation but then just keep going down even more twists and turns trying to make sense of it.
I try not to overthink this type of mindstate (the buddhist ideal of being able to apprehend these states of consciousness without getting mixed up trying to conceptualize them seems like a sensible approach) but some trips just give you no peace, a continual mindfuck where your thoughts keep churning endlessly.
I think part of the reason for the mindfuck (in my trips at least) is a kind of underlying anxiety where I want everything in the world to be OK, and my mind keeps churning trying to convince myself that everything really is OK, even though I'm slightly aware that my thought process is delusional. I'm usually better off if I can be content with the idea that everything just is....then I can throw myself into the trip and enjoy it purely as an experience rather than a grandiose quest for truth. Maybe there is some Godlike overmind out there that you reach during the trip......but it's a mindfuck if you try and keep yourself convinced of it as you start to come down
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Re: Potency Surprise [Re: Aldebaran]
#22098344 - 08/16/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well, to expand your borders, you must first cross them which ain't pleasant at all. I wasn't trying to explain anything since it made perfect sense, I was just scared of the hugeness of it all. I have done a lot of work on my ego tyranny, but I still got a long way to go I learned yesterday
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Re: Potency Surprise [Re: sarahnya]
#22098620 - 08/16/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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sarahnya said: It's mental isn't it. I was stuck thinking, what am I gonna do now over and over because I literally thought I knew the meaning of life and it would be an endless repetition where nothing mattered, there was no right or wrong and I'd already made ever decision in my life so there was nothing else left to do except maybe lay down and die but even that wouldn't offer an escape.
At least if it happens again I can console myself with the knowledge that I will feel ok again when it's over, I actually believed at the time I was going to end up feeling like that forever lol
Horrible mind fook!
I hope this makes sense to you, but IME, sometimes at the peak of a trip a minor physical discomfort can translate into a huge mental problem, even without being conscious of the physical origin of the problem.
Funny thing is that, in such cases, a minor physical comfort can then also translate into a major mental solution. Eg, the music was just a little too loud, the blanket moved and you were cold, etc, small things that when fixed can solve a big crisis.
I find that in such cases the smallest of gestures from the tripping partner can make all the difference. My girlfriend handing me a hot cup of (plain) tea, and saying, everything is alright honey, can be the solution to a major mental crisis. Of course I have to keep paying attention when I'm tripping hard, .. 15 minutes later another crisis 
What I'm saying is that maybe, just maybe, you could have broken free from your vicious circle by a very small act, yours or your friend's.
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Re: Potency Surprise [Re: Hanz]
#22098758 - 08/16/15 01:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Completely agreed, I was a bit cold. I was tripping with my girlfriend so in the end we had to embrace each other which helped a little bit. If she weren't there, I really dunno...
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