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Re: HOME-BREWED SYNTHETIC OPIOIDS ARE FINALLY A REALITY NO POPPIES REQUIRED [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #22112914 - 08/19/15 04:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Those specially engineered yeast cultures lose the special genes that were inserted in them rapidly. The reason is that it does not give any advantage to the yeast, they have no use for opiods. So the yeast that does not produce it out multiplies the yeast that does which gets buried in the pack and finally vanishes. That is probably the main reason they could only make a tiny tiny bit of opiods. Its just a proof of concept not a workable plan.


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Re: HOME-BREWED SYNTHETIC OPIOIDS ARE FINALLY A REALITY NO POPPIES REQUIRED [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22113189 - 08/19/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Those specially engineered yeast cultures lose the special genes that were inserted in them rapidly. The reason is that it does not give any advantage to the yeast, they have no use for opiods. So the yeast that does not produce it out multiplies the yeast that does which gets buried in the pack and finally vanishes. That is probably the main reason they could only make a tiny tiny bit of opiods. Its just a proof of concept not a workable plan.



do poppy plants have use for opiods? Do any psychoactive plants have use for their alkaloids?

(not trying to poke holes in your statement; thats a genuine question)


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Re: HOME-BREWED SYNTHETIC OPIOIDS ARE FINALLY A REALITY NO POPPIES REQUIRED [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22113217 - 08/19/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

>do poppy plants have use for opiods? Do any psychoactive plants have use for their alkaloids?

Of course. Poppy alkaloids are known to induce sedation and even death. An animal who is buzzed on morphine will likely get caught by a predator. Some compounds are just really nasty tasting as well as having psychoactive properties which helps the plant survive.


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Re: HOME-BREWED SYNTHETIC OPIOIDS ARE FINALLY A REALITY NO POPPIES REQUIRED [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22113325 - 08/19/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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>do poppy plants have use for opiods? Do any psychoactive plants have use for their alkaloids?

Of course. Poppy alkaloids are known to induce sedation and even death. An animal who is buzzed on morphine will likely get caught by a predator. Some compounds are just really nasty tasting as well as having psychoactive properties which helps the plant survive.



its all so obvious now :raisemyglass:


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Re: HOME-BREWED SYNTHETIC OPIOIDS ARE FINALLY A REALITY NO POPPIES REQUIRED [Re: Scudreloaded]
    #22173412 - 09/01/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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pitty opioids are so addictive
i'm all for new things being synthed, just hope it only gets into the right and proper hands
and opiate addiction is a horrible thing




The only reason opiate addiction is bad is because it is so scarce and expensive. Imagine if you could get a dose of an opiate for 1 cent.


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Re: HOME-BREWED SYNTHETIC OPIOIDS ARE FINALLY A REALITY NO POPPIES REQUIRED [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
    #22174225 - 09/01/15 02:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

my opiate habit is about $1 a day.

its not too bad, id prefer to not pay it.


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Re: HOME-BREWED SYNTHETIC OPIOIDS ARE FINALLY A REALITY NO POPPIES REQUIRED [Re: rxb]
    #22175028 - 09/01/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

a dollar a day? Jesus. How is it even possible to get enough of an opiate to get high for one dollar?


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Re: HOME-BREWED SYNTHETIC OPIOIDS ARE FINALLY A REALITY NO POPPIES REQUIRED [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22175530 - 09/01/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Mine was pretty much free since I was dealing... But I rarely made any money. But shit, whenever my dealers went to jail, or they couldn't reup for some reason, all hell broke loose.

Also, if I could get and stay high for a dollar a day... Shit, sign me up. Hah, like those "save starving African children" commercials... "For just fifty cents a day, you can help a junkie in need of your help.".


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Re: HOME-BREWED SYNTHETIC OPIOIDS ARE FINALLY A REALITY NO POPPIES REQUIRED [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
    #22175823 - 09/01/15 09:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Methadone is pretty cheap.  I was prescribed 120 mgs of oxycodone a day and it cost me like $4.00 per day, didn't make my life any easier.  Opioid addiction sucks because it's an empty existence, though the whole difficulty supporting a habit certainly adds to it.


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Re: HOME-BREWED SYNTHETIC OPIOIDS ARE FINALLY A REALITY NO POPPIES REQUIRED [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22175919 - 09/01/15 09:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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a dollar a day? Jesus. How is it even possible to get enough of an opiate to get high for one dollar?




50mics per hour fentynal costs me about $1 a day. its the equivilant of about 40mg of hydrophone (dilaudid) orally.

its a pretty hefty amount.


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Re: HOME-BREWED SYNTHETIC OPIOIDS ARE FINALLY A REALITY NO POPPIES REQUIRED [Re: rxb]
    #22176703 - 09/02/15 12:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm on 80mg meth a day, down from 170.  Methadone is like the miracle drug, the only pain in the ass is going to the clinic every day. Wouldn't consider my existence meaningless at all.

I can't deny it, I fucking love opiates.


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