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Munchauzen


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Storing and using grain water 8
#22090249 - 08/14/15 07:42 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Edited by Munchauzen (04/05/18 06:28 PM)
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spacechildo
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Re: Storing and using grain water [Re: Munchauzen]
#22090265 - 08/14/15 07:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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nice touch with the ice cube tray! I use a coke bottle myself, these look good if you just need a set of plates on the go! You could save yourself a couple questions by saying something in OP on cube size maybe?
cant see the vid but thats my comp. problem. the previous ones have been real good bet this one's too
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Munchauzen


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Re: Storing and using grain water [Re: spacechildo]
#22090272 - 08/14/15 07:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: nice touch with the ice cube tray! I use a coke bottle myself, these look good if you just need a set of plates on the go! You could save yourself a couple questions by saying something in OP on cube size maybe?
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(8-10 pasty plates;ymmv)
ymmv stands for your milage may vary - because people will have different sized ice cube trays. but I will add an additional note. thanks!
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Re: Storing and using grain water [Re: Munchauzen]
#22090283 - 08/14/15 08:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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oh yeah I saw that, I was thinking of ice/liquids to agar ratios! I shoulda made that more clear. it doesnt really matter as it'll be fine in a wide range but newbs like to obsess and us others like to skew things for germination f.ex.
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Munchauzen


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Re: Storing and using grain water [Re: spacechildo]
#22090294 - 08/14/15 08:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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oh ok. the water and ice equates to half a cup of H20 to 1.5 grams of agar. added that too.
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spacechildo
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Re: Storing and using grain water [Re: Munchauzen]
#22090307 - 08/14/15 08:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good stuff munch, I maybe was a bit of a nit pick but my intentions were good 
gonna try using a cube tray next time, sounds pretty sweet to just use a set no of ice cubes and not measure shit anymore!
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Munchauzen


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Re: Storing and using grain water [Re: spacechildo]
#22090328 - 08/14/15 08:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: Good stuff munch, I maybe was a bit of a nit pick but my intentions were good 
gonna try using a cube tray next time, sounds pretty sweet to just use a set no of ice cubes and not measure shit anymore!
don't mention it. if any of my readers are confused by my writing, just speak up!
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Re: Storing and using grain water [Re: Munchauzen]
#22090616 - 08/14/15 10:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nice write up, good idea munch
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Re: Storing and using grain water [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22091253 - 08/14/15 01:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Can you maybe link up what kinda ice tray you're using? Would hate to use one that actually is different enough to fuck up the agar/water ratio like space was saying. I measure everything pretty exactly when doing my agar, so I'd want to be confident that my tray is meeting my measurements, or whichever adjustment to them I'm trying to make.
Or is your point more to take the amount of water you need and disperse it across as many cube-slots as it fills in your tray to see what the repeatable amount is for yourself?
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Re: Storing and using grain water [Re: Inocuole]
#22091304 - 08/14/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nice! I've always wondered if grain water could be used in agar. Doesn't the agar need a bit of sugars in it too? I mean, I imagine this has clearly worked for you, but I have read that the composition of agar media consists of starch, sugars, and agar.
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Re: Storing and using grain water [Re: shellzenone]
#22091335 - 08/14/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Grain water has plenty of sugar.
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Munchauzen


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Re: Storing and using grain water [Re: Inocuole]
#22091450 - 08/14/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Can you maybe link up what kinda ice tray you're using? Would hate to use one that actually is different enough to fuck up the agar/water ratio like space was saying. I measure everything pretty exactly when doing my agar, so I'd want to be confident that my tray is meeting my measurements, or whichever adjustment to them I'm trying to make.
Or is your point more to take the amount of water you need and disperse it across as many cube-slots as it fills in your tray to see what the repeatable amount is for yourself?
yes, the 1/2 cup of water was premeasured, then poured into the slots, which equated to 5 slots. Ideally, I would shoot for a 50/50 mix of water/grainwater, but rather than cut 1 ice cube in half, I just went with 40/60 cuzz it works fine. I've also updated the OP with some more verbage to address this.
I've also added honey to this mixture before and it fucked it up royally. 30+ plates all contaminated as fuck. you won't need additional nutes when using grainwater.
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Re: Storing and using grain water [Re: Munchauzen] 1
#22091504 - 08/14/15 02:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Munchauzen


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Re: Storing and using grain water [Re: Inocuole]
#22091540 - 08/14/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said:

My level of Understanding has increased by 1. I now have 5 new skill points to allocate to any mushroom related skill.
 
glad to have helped. now to get some whatmans to make some grainwater lc. I havent had an lc in going on 3 years!
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Re: Storing and using grain water [Re: Munchauzen]
#22093191 - 08/15/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Going to be doing grains later on today. Been wondering what to give my isolate other than PDA, this is the solution.
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Re: Storing and using grain water [Re: Munchauzen]
#22093624 - 08/15/15 05:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Doing nearly the same thing here, but i prep the agar directly and freeze it in ice cube bags
i just take 2 cube for each agar plate when i need it. No prep ^^
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Re: Storing and using grain water [Re: Chk]
#23449868 - 07/17/16 01:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Grain water is so useful.
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spacechildo
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Re: Storing and using grain water [Re: spacechildo]
#23449948 - 07/17/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: gonna try using a cube tray next time, sounds pretty sweet to just use a set no of ice cubes and not measure shit anymore!

Still a good thread tho!
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Re: Storing and using grain water [Re: spacechildo]
#23450498 - 07/17/16 04:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I love grain water agar, but I add a little dog food to mine. Great write up in might have to try this.
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Blue! I like GWDFA too.
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