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DANKSICLE
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Help With Enviorment?
#22090134 - 08/14/15 06:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey guys so I'm relatively new to growing mushrooms and I'm looking to make the perfect environment for my shrooms. I started with spawn bags and have also gotten a tub but I'm still not getting the best results. I recently found out you're supposed to use vermiculite and perlite I've only been using vermiculite, so I guess that's another thing I'm curious about. I got the temperatures and colonization down and everything but i'm willing to invest I'd just like to get better results. My main question is besides vermiculite, grow, bags cakes spores and casing what else should I get to help them grow and how do I use it? Here's my whole set up. BTW I'm not good with all the acronyms so any translation is apprecoated!
My first cake turned out alright they were albino a strain. For that I just colonized the cake, soaked a tub of vermiculite and then put the cake on top of it and let it grow in thr grown bag. These werethe result.
I then found out about using casing as well as the dunk and roll method so I started doing that for a few different cakes which I don't have any pictures.
My two most recent cakes I went two different routes. I dunked one cake for around 20 or 22 hours and then put a layer of moist vermiculite down in a small tub coversed that with casing and then put the cake on top of that. Lastly I covered the edges of the cake and container with more casing. Just set that up but it appears to be doing well!

For the other I didn't dunk it however broke it up into small chunks with my hand. I then put a layer of moist vermiculite down, put the broken up cake on that and covered that with casing. That one seems to be very dry, but im still getting shrooms that are begging to pop up
I also got a tub I'm working eith. I was out of town so my roommate set it up. All he did was break up the cakes and put them in a layer of casing. We got some shrooms but they werent that great. [IMG]http://i59.tinypic.com/2nlbv4k.jpg[IMG]
Now I guess my main question is using these methods what's the best way to set up the enviorment. I just learned about perlite keeping it humkd however I thought that's what vermiculite did? Anyway how would I want to set up this empty tub. For example would I do a layer of perlite (how much) then most vermiculite then the cakes/casing? Same for the smaller spawn bags? What can I do to improve whay I'm already doing? Thanks for the help and here's the rub I'm dealing with.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Help With Enviorment? [Re: DANKSICLE]
#22090137 - 08/14/15 06:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Perlite goes into a SGFC it has holes under the perlite so air flows thru and gets humidified. Perlite sitting in the bottom of a tub doesn't do much for humidity. Monotub and the SGFC look em up.
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DANKSICLE
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Re: Help With Enviorment? [Re: bodhisatta]
#22090162 - 08/14/15 07:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Perlite goes into a SGFC it has holes under the perlite so air flows thru and gets humidified. Perlite sitting in the bottom of a tub doesn't do much for humidity. Monotub and the SGFC look em up.
What exactly is SGFC? What's it stand for, what's it look like, and in this case how would I apply it to my set up? Thanks.
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Re: Help With Enviorment? [Re: bodhisatta]
#22090163 - 08/14/15 07:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think you have alot of reading to do. That's alot to explain and I'm not sure you understand what your doing fully. Start by rereading the basic pftek, then read a couple monotub teks. Basically use the search bar at the top and type in pftek or monotub. There's also the general cultivation section. Go there and start at the top. You just gotta read and read and read.
-------------------- Alright then, picture this if you will: 10 to 2 AM, X, Yogi DMT, and a box of Krispy Kremes, in my "need to know" post, just outside of Area 51. Contemplating the whole "chosen people" thing with just a flaming stealth banana split the sky like one would hope but never really expect to see in a place like this. Cutting right angle donuts on a dime and stopping right at my Birkenstocks, and me yelping... Holy fucking shit!
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DANKSICLE
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DensePlacebo said: I think you have alot of reading to do. That's alot to explain and I'm not sure you understand what your doing fully. Start by rereading the basic pftek, then read a couple monotub teks. Basically use the search bar at the top and type in pftek or monotub. There's also the general cultivation section. Go there and start at the top. You just gotta read and read and read.
Can you give me any basic links I'm not exactly what to search up. I'm experimentin that's why I post my specific scenario.
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Re: Help With Enviorment? [Re: DANKSICLE]
#22090239 - 08/14/15 07:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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DANKSICLE said:
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bodhisatta said: Perlite goes into a SGFC it has holes under the perlite so air flows thru and gets humidified. Perlite sitting in the bottom of a tub doesn't do much for humidity. Monotub and the SGFC look em up.
What exactly is SGFC? What's it stand for, what's it look like, and in this case how would I apply it to my set up? Thanks.
Google it
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#22090240 - 08/14/15 07:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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DensePlacebo
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I told you. Go to youtube/google and type in pftek, or monotub. Take notes. Start with the pftek and a SGFC(shotgun fruiting chamber). That's all you'll need for now. Master that first.
-------------------- Alright then, picture this if you will: 10 to 2 AM, X, Yogi DMT, and a box of Krispy Kremes, in my "need to know" post, just outside of Area 51. Contemplating the whole "chosen people" thing with just a flaming stealth banana split the sky like one would hope but never really expect to see in a place like this. Cutting right angle donuts on a dime and stopping right at my Birkenstocks, and me yelping... Holy fucking shit!
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Also don't experiment untill you fully understand what your doing why your doing it and what it does.
-------------------- Alright then, picture this if you will: 10 to 2 AM, X, Yogi DMT, and a box of Krispy Kremes, in my "need to know" post, just outside of Area 51. Contemplating the whole "chosen people" thing with just a flaming stealth banana split the sky like one would hope but never really expect to see in a place like this. Cutting right angle donuts on a dime and stopping right at my Birkenstocks, and me yelping... Holy fucking shit!
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DANKSICLE
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DensePlacebo said: I told you. Go to youtube/google and type in pftek, or monotub. Take notes. Start with the pftek and a SGFC(shotgun fruiting chamber). That's all you'll need for now. Master that first.
All right I know much more now. I'll do that exactly. Or give it a shot. He didn't using any casing (or manure) would adding that help?
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Re: Help With Enviorment? [Re: DANKSICLE]
#22090414 - 08/14/15 09:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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No, follow directions will help
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tetherface
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Re: Help With Enviorment? [Re: bodhisatta]
#22090426 - 08/14/15 09:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: No, follow directions will help
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spacechildo
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Re: Help With Enviorment? [Re: tetherface]
#22090499 - 08/14/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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