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been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE
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This site has provided me with knowlesge and support for some years now. I don't post a whole lot mainly just read and listen. With that said, im comin off a 7 month bit for cannabis related squirmishes with the law. I have a deep passion for the pyschadelic realm and am feeling somewhat deprived at the moment. Through out the years of learning to cultivate mushrooms I have managed to turn a blind eye to what certain cacti may have to offer. I recently place an order through a person named cactus kate. I have good reason to believe she has quality product and I ordered 2 12" cuttings of bridgessi. It is more apparent then ever that now is the time in my life to experience this. I Plan on being a man about it consuming from a no-heat prep method. Stress-freeze-thaw-blend-strain. I am also willing to consume the solids minus the core if that will play a roll in gaining more alkaloids. This is my first time and i really want to feel what it has to offer. I am confident in my ability to get it all down im doing one cutting. I have a good country setting for my experience on private land. And a strong spiritual foundation and heart. A few questions I have is 1. Should I go it alone? Im comfortable in my own skin but have recognized how much of an asset a truusting sober friend is in these journeys. 2. Is it a good experience without weed i smoked in ever trip i had i cant smoke now and was wondering if i will even be caring about it while in my journey i dont want to break down and smoke and fuck up my probation cause im feeling so good and get a case of the fuck-its. 3. I am an experienced tripper and seeking a level 3-4 experience is 12" in your opinions enough to get there? And last of all what should i expect as far as ability to function after about 8hrs i gave myself that much of a window to completely shut myself off from the world. I thank this community so much for the knowledge and insight it has given me. It is my time now to embark in something knew and I turn to you now for a final opinion on my upcoming jourmey.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: Grungeman17] 1
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I'm far, FAR from an experienced cactus tripper (1 cactus trip total lol, San Pedro), but I do have countless mushroom & L trips under my belt.
First off, I would go solo, personally. Unless the person there with me is tripping also -- I would just rather ride it with my thoughts and I.
A 12 inch cutting of bridge should/will definitely get you tripping nicely I would think, although expecting a level 4 trip on that amount would probably be pushing it. But then again, you'll want to get feedback from others on that -- and preferably those with bridgesii experience.
And dude, you may also want to consider more than just an 8 hour window to work with. My SP trip lasted roughly 16 hours, and cacti trips are known for their lengthy durations.
That's all I got, bud.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: Niffla]
#22089732 - 08/14/15 12:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for your response. I think im just gonna dedicate the whole damn day to ot lol theres alot of recreation where im staying and plenty of private land to roam. That was helpful because I feel too that I should go solo unless i have someone to share the experience with. Which is up in the air in all reality. Im fine with a solid level 3 trip if it teaters on the edge of level 4 i will endure. Im actually jist working on some activities to do to carry out the length of the trip I figured maybe a few hours of fishing and some disc golf is in order. I will only trip in nature... even tho i do like the warm coazy feeling of coming indoors at night and relaxing to good music all of which is available to me.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: Grungeman17]
#22089755 - 08/14/15 12:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Grungeman17 said: Thanks for your response.
No problem, and best of luck on your trip. Hopefully some bridge trippers will chime in soon and offer you some feedback.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: Grungeman17]
#22089757 - 08/14/15 12:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's hard to say whether u should do it alone or not, by that I mean I don't feel I have the authorization nor does anyone else to decide that for you. Although I will say that if it were me I'd definitely wouldn't mind going through it on my own. The cactus can be a very clear and vivid experience unlike other psychedelics, so ure chances of having a good experience are much higher I would imagine, just as long uve got the whole set n setting down, which by the sound of it looks like ure more than ready.
There is really no need to smoke weed during the experience, the experience itself is more than enough. Although there are times when the experience isn't as u'd hoped it'd be, maybe the cactus wasn't as potent, but u still feel something, well the weed will potentiate ur trip ten fold. Just be careful tho cuz sometimes it potentiates it too much and u might end up feeling lots of anxiety. Also, considering ur current situation it's probably not the best idea to be smoking weed.. If all goes well tho u won't even think about the weed..
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: zZZz]
#22089789 - 08/14/15 01:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I selected bridge because for one it seems people have described it as a more potent experience but not neccasarily i guess. And its current what is most available through amazon. I figured if i hit off good i wouldnt put much thought into weed which im not even going to make available to myself. I like the sound of how its more vivid and lucid thats the exact experience im seeking right now.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: Grungeman17]
#22090626 - 08/14/15 10:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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yea I would def do it alone because the chances of a bad trip with mescalin are so low. Don't smoke weed, experience the mescalin alone.
i'd get down as much of the stuff as I could, even might eat both 12 inch pieces and that's because a 12 inch piece might be enough to really trip, depending on potency but with mescalin you never really know and its not a very punishing chemical.
its like 2 mild trips or one strong, your choice.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: ergoticmandala]
#22094262 - 08/15/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Im a go big or go home kinda guy. I would be willing to do 2 feet that seems like alot though it appears that 1 1/2 has been a popular dose. I feel i may just do that and while im on the new, I would plant the remaining 1/2 and see what comes of it. I dont know. 2 feet sounds about like ego death waiting to happen which may be what I need.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: Grungeman17]
#22094284 - 08/15/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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My first mesc experience I dosed 2 feet bridgesii, I was blown away at how comfortable I felt. My whole body was glowing, purring, humming to the universe which was wonderful. The visuals were amazing, everything had a "southwestern" look to it, lots of turquoise, blues, and greens.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: Grungeman17]
#22094320 - 08/15/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do it. No cook freeze/thaw method works pretty well, but I don't know about eating the solids. Good luck on that. Cactus Kate is RIP but there is someone still running a website under her name. I've heard the bridgesii are very good, but the pachanoi and "peruvianus" that I saw pics of on the site look like BS to me.
I wouldn't be afraid to do it alone, but I do find it's nice to have someone to share the experience with too. I've done it with and without cannabis, and I'd say it's great either way.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: nicechrisman]
#22094594 - 08/15/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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eating cactus is god awful nasty and the body load from bridge is horrendous with strong head zaps IME of course
just wait till you smell it cooking youll know
I think bridge smells even worse than sp
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: Grungeman17]
#22094603 - 08/15/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Grungeman17 said: This site has provided me with knowlesge and support for some years now. I don't post a whole lot mainly just read and listen. With that said, im comin off a 7 month bit for cannabis related squirmishes with the law. I have a deep passion for the pyschadelic realm and am feeling somewhat deprived at the moment. Through out the years of learning to cultivate mushrooms I have managed to turn a blind eye to what certain cacti may have to offer. I recently place an order through a person named cactus kate. I have good reason to believe she has quality product and I ordered 2 12" cuttings of bridgessi. It is more apparent then ever that now is the time in my life to experience this. I Plan on being a man about it consuming from a no-heat prep method. Stress-freeze-thaw-blend-strain. I am also willing to consume the solids minus the core if that will play a roll in gaining more alkaloids. This is my first time and i really want to feel what it has to offer. I am confident in my ability to get it all down im doing one cutting. I have a good country setting for my experience on private land. And a strong spiritual foundation and heart. A few questions I have is 1. Should I go it alone? Im comfortable in my own skin but have recognized how much of an asset a truusting sober friend is in these journeys. 2. Is it a good experience without weed i smoked in ever trip i had i cant smoke now and was wondering if i will even be caring about it while in my journey i dont want to break down and smoke and fuck up my probation cause im feeling so good and get a case of the fuck-its. 3. I am an experienced tripper and seeking a level 3-4 experience is 12" in your opinions enough to get there? And last of all what should i expect as far as ability to function after about 8hrs i gave myself that much of a window to completely shut myself off from the world. I thank this community so much for the knowledge and insight it has given me. It is my time now to embark in something knew and I turn to you now for a final opinion on my upcoming jourmey.
I have purchased cactus Kate trichocereus pachanoi several times and have always been satisfied with the alkaloid content of the cacti provided...
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
#22094621 - 08/15/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have heard the cactus Kate trichocereus bridgesii contain good amounts of the desired alkaloids as well.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
#22096709 - 08/15/15 10:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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All I can say is it's in the mail... shit is eminent...updates will come.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: Doctor Sponge]
#22096734 - 08/15/15 10:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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learning sponge said: eating cactus is god awful nasty and the body load from bridge is horrendous with strong head zaps IME of course
just wait till you smell it cooking youll know
I think bridge smells even worse than sp
to each his own but never again for me
The head zaps are all part of the fun! Bridgesii does have a distinctive smell when cooking. Kinda a vinegar smell where pachanoi has more of just kinda a strong plant material smell. I've never really tried just straight eating cactus except for a tiny piece and I was all like "fuck no I'm not eating this".
The most palatable is when you take the cactus and freeze and thaw it and squeeze out all the juices released in a tshirt and just drink that. Straight raw fresh meltwater. It's the best IMO. Much better than the brewed tea, but obviously you're not getting everything out of the cactus. You can then take the leftover material and either make an alcohol tar or brew it into tea.
Don't get me wrong, the meltwater doesn't taste great, but it's not as bad as tea.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: nicechrisman]
#22096851 - 08/15/15 11:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah, It's funny cause I got it in my head that it wont be that bad tasting i've eatin some pretty questionable stuff in my day, like lets just say the lemon tek swamp shot has never fased me. But I don't think you guys are messin around when you say how disgusting it is. A main erowid prep method is like yea and afterward eat the solids if so desire, they make it sound like asparagus... can someone describe or elaborate on a "head zap"
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: Grungeman17]
#22096854 - 08/15/15 11:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah good luck with that asparagus. All the hollondaise sauce in the world ain't gonna make that palatable.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: Grungeman17]
#22096898 - 08/15/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin]
#22151195 - 08/27/15 12:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well they came... They're not as big in diameter as I expected them to be about 2 1/2 in. At the biggest point so im definatly gonna consume both like i said im just doing the fresh to juice method should i bother deskining it or should I just cut freeze and blend after taking off the spines. Maybe these just seem smaller in person in comparison to the pics i have seen on here. They are 13 inches in length.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22151204 - 08/27/15 12:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've tried skinned and not skinned. I haven't found it makes much difference except the skin on seems to make for a darker colored brew. Not sure why. Tannins maybe?
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: nicechrisman]
#22151211 - 08/27/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Are these adiquite sized?
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22151222 - 08/27/15 12:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Should be plenty for one person
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: nicechrisman]
#22151237 - 08/27/15 12:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good deal. More pics of events will come. Thank you for your help im not going to bother deskinning. After i cut up and before freezing im going to add some salt to help purge the liquids from it. Your information has been helpful
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22151549 - 08/27/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The outer skin can give u a ton of nausea man, that is why it usually recommended that u skin it, but who knows u might not get too nauses..
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: zZZz]
#22151660 - 08/27/15 02:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've brewed it both ways quite a few times and have never noticed a difference in nausea.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: nicechrisman]
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Same here, but for me there was Definitely a difference in the amount of nausea experienced, the last time I added the outer skin layer I had terrible stomach spasms n shit, and two other people drank from the same batch and they felt just as terrible, although it went away in about an hour and tben it was pure bliss, but never again..
Idk man u must have a strong stomach or sum shit or do u also take anti nAusea supplements?..
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: zZZz]
#22152452 - 08/27/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I used to take lemon essential oil, but the last few times I haven't. Mescaline causes nausea. I don't think it's the skin.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: nicechrisman]
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Did u by any chAnce try boiling with the outer skin?.. maybe It only happens when u boil it aS it releases more of the cactuses properties..
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: zZZz]
#22152829 - 08/27/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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mescaline's the coolest damn drug I ever done
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: nicechrisman]
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nicechrisman said: I used to take lemon essential oil, but the last few times I haven't. Mescaline causes nausea. I don't think it's the skin.
every psych under the sun gives me severe nausea - i chalk it up to part of the experience.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: zZZz]
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zZZz said: Did u by any chAnce try boiling with the outer skin?.. maybe It only happens when u boil it aS it releases more of the cactuses properties..
I try to keep my temps down to a low simmer, never a full on boil. I use a slow cooker/crockpot.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: nicechrisman]
#22154380 - 08/27/15 11:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Interested to hear how this turns out for OP
I haven't tripped off mesc in like literally 10 years
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Niffla]
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Here's what I purged after 2 freeze/thaws. It's on its last one now...Today is the day...im gonna try and set up to consume where im hittin my come up at sunset about 8:00pm my time from what I understand 2-3 hours is the time it takes to come on so im gonna go for it at about why not make it 4:20 and hopefully im gliding by sunset. P.S. That stuff at the bottom has me so pumped for my boyyyzzz.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: JvF]
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This arm is a bit over 3 feet (estimated), and is about the diameter of a sausage, if it dies, and I just eat it like corn on the cob (after spine removal) or just consume the entire arm like a carrot, would I be reaching any where near the 800mgs mescaline range?
I don't intend on eating this, but if it dies I'm either going to make a tea, or just eat the thing, just so it doesn't go to waste.
Though I'm probably not going to kill the arm, I really don't think it's going to die. I mean if it was a simple removal of the arm, then allowing it to scab up, then potting it I think I would be fine, though I'm getting several suggestions on other ways I can remove the arm and plant it into something useful that I'm not experienced in performing, so there's a chance the arm may have issues in the process...
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
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Dude that's a sad looking cactus. You need to do something about that.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: nicechrisman]
#22156454 - 08/28/15 12:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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 The process begins. Going to do lemon lime gatorade mix.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22156494 - 08/28/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good luck Grunge, have a good trip mayne
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Niffla]
#22156528 - 08/28/15 12:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thank you man. Ill be sharing pics of the country side this evening.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22156529 - 08/28/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Grungeman17 said: This site has provided me with knowlesge and support for some years now. I don't post a whole lot mainly just read and listen. With that said, im comin off a 7 month bit for cannabis related squirmishes with the law. I have a deep passion for the pyschadelic realm and am feeling somewhat deprived at the moment. Through out the years of learning to cultivate mushrooms I have managed to turn a blind eye to what certain cacti may have to offer. I recently place an order through a person named cactus kate. I have good reason to believe she has quality product and I ordered 2 12" cuttings of bridgessi. It is more apparent then ever that now is the time in my life to experience this. I Plan on being a man about it consuming from a no-heat prep method. Stress-freeze-thaw-blend-strain. I am also willing to consume the solids minus the core if that will play a roll in gaining more alkaloids. This is my first time and i really want to feel what it has to offer. I am confident in my ability to get it all down im doing one cutting. I have a good country setting for my experience on private land. And a strong spiritual foundation and heart. A few questions I have is 1. Should I go it alone? Im comfortable in my own skin but have recognized how much of an asset a truusting sober friend is in these journeys. 2. Is it a good experience without weed i smoked in ever trip i had i cant smoke now and was wondering if i will even be caring about it while in my journey i dont want to break down and smoke and fuck up my probation cause im feeling so good and get a case of the fuck-its. 3. I am an experienced tripper and seeking a level 3-4 experience is 12" in your opinions enough to get there? And last of all what should i expect as far as ability to function after about 8hrs i gave myself that much of a window to completely shut myself off from the world. I thank this community so much for the knowledge and insight it has given me. It is my time now to embark in something knew and I turn to you now for a final opinion on my upcoming jourmey.
Are you from Maryland?
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Janky Tits]
#22156537 - 08/28/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Indiana
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22156562 - 08/28/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just got a long awaited phone call telling me I got my Job back and my Aunt just give me her spare vehicle so I could commute... Im on another level of Happy and now for the goods... Good news trippin...
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22156569 - 08/28/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Grungeman17 said: Just got a long awaited phone call telling me I got my Job back and my Aunt just give me her spare vehicle so I could commute... Im on another level of Happy and now for the goods... Good news trippin...
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22156584 - 08/28/15 01:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Grungeman17 said: Indiana
Oh lls
I probably just assumed you were a Marylander because you said "in a minute" and because all the wannabe ghetto kids in my area say that shit all the time.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22156589 - 08/28/15 01:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is hard to drink im doin it but fuckkk
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: JvF]
#22156627 - 08/28/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I didnt strain through shirt or pillow case im consuming every inch of this motherfucker i can take my time cant i my goal for all this to be gone in an hour could i stretch it two. The fuckin things we do to trip...
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22156658 - 08/28/15 01:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The only time I dosed mesc, I was left with a shit ton of it to drink -- like 20 fucking ounces.
By ounce 5 or 6 I was already at a point where I couldn't get it down. So I came here for some pointers, and some dude told me to chase it with black coffee. Well I'll be damned if it didn't work.
Black coffee really masked the horrific taste/aftertaste.
Just throwing it out there.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Niffla]
#22156677 - 08/28/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ive got black coffee right fuckin here im gonna use it thanks dude the foam is whats gettin me bad
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22156702 - 08/28/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Im halfway through all of it maybe more the coffee works its warm it feels like its settling my stomach. Ive got 80's hair ballads goin on youtube and when i chug i litterally just focus on the fuckin music.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22156711 - 08/28/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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oranges work just as well too, and u can also cover ur nose while ur drinking so u dont taste it.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: zZZz]
#22156730 - 08/28/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The consistancy factor is trumping the taste im stiring in more gatorade to get it more like liquid and less like a smoothy from hell
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22156828 - 08/28/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok im sold on the coffee i would be fucked without it at this point. Its my life line right now. I havnt gagged once but my stomachs tellin me slow down so thats what im doing as long as it all makes it down in 2hrs i think we'll be good
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22156836 - 08/28/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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how much do you got left?
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Niffla]
#22156842 - 08/28/15 02:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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2 feet of bridge is the dose?
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: qman]
#22156849 - 08/28/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes 2ft. 25-30 oz. The music and the coffee is saving me
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22156869 - 08/28/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Its been 70 minutes since start of consumption it may just be me mixedwith all the stomach feelings but i feel somethin
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22156884 - 08/28/15 02:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Grungeman17 said: Its been 70 minutes since start of consumption it may just be me mixedwith all the stomach feelings but i feel somethin
For sure, I remember the purge gave me no warning at all, feeling fine and then all of a sudden, hard vomit. 
2 feet should have you going strong later on, enjoy!
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22156887 - 08/28/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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good luck man 
make sure to buckle ur seat belt
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: zZZz]
#22156911 - 08/28/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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My goal is no pukey . I believe i can do this the hot coffee is settling in dead
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22156926 - 08/28/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is it
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22156966 - 08/28/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Now you are learning why we strain it
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: nicechrisman]
#22156981 - 08/28/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes young grasshopper is
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22157016 - 08/28/15 02:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was fuckin stupid... I strained that last cup and it aint shit. Fuck the solids
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22157059 - 08/28/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I got this badass phil collins playlist goin on on youtube you got his picture just staren at like i know you
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22157228 - 08/28/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Its working for sure...
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22157231 - 08/28/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: nicechrisman]
#22157406 - 08/28/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Feel the love brother
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#22157652 - 08/28/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I sure do just wow
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22157665 - 08/28/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do NOT take your pants off and go outside.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22157667 - 08/28/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The most euphoric psychedelic..good vibes man
-------------------- On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky We all need more love, and mainly less hate Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye That makes the heart's eye cry Locked deep away in the skies of our minds It's all in the mind
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#22157676 - 08/28/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22157678 - 08/28/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It took jedi powers to even be able to post that live fuckin action
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22157692 - 08/28/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Once fuckin again this site delivers gods knowledge
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22157721 - 08/28/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Grungeman17 said: It took jedi powers to even be able to post that
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Niffla]
#22157881 - 08/28/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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i remember i took a picture once and had an interesting realization, that i wasnt taking a picture of the present, but rather the future.. which was actually the past..
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: nicechrisman]
#22159530 - 08/29/15 07:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: Dude that's a sad looking cactus. You need to do something about that.
I know, I've been putting it off for quite a while...
All I can say is that if I kill the arm I'm going to have to eat it, or brew it, regardless if I "feel" like having a mescaline experience...
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum] 2
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Ok... Yesterday was straight rewarding. I covered about 6 miles over the course of my journey I almost feel like their is too much to say you already know....but at one point I got lost in the woods and got turned around on the horse trail and it was starting to get dark but I didnt panic I listended for the sounds of cars on the road and as I was tryin locate it some friendly drunkards on donkeys rolled up and was able to to help. They were not sketchy just wanted to make sure i made it to the road before dark. I definately felt Gods presence and felt like the expwrience had his blessing and those riders were sent my way by him. Then after my solo jouney my very close friend picked me up on the side of the road and we went to bond fire. Where his brothers metal band was playing and proceeded to turn the bandt knob to 11... BANDTER PANDTER!!!!
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22162719 - 08/29/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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that's awesome man, glad everything went well.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: zZZz]
#22162764 - 08/29/15 10:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Aya is obviously my next checkpoint... I dont know if ots that time in life. I will say cacti/ meacaline are worth it. It felt to jave alot of the properties of a shroom trip just not so much mind bend idk...it was definay a good time. And it will happen again. Maybe Halloween???... Sounds like it to me
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22162908 - 08/29/15 10:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you don't want to go all the way with aya but want something similiar try pharmayahuasca. It is the same in essence but stripped down to its basics.
Which makes it a much cleaner experience, especially if you use pure dmt and not some jungle spice or something more crazy. Just start low.
Some people seem to think they need to take more than they would normally smoke for a decent dose 
Also sounds like you had a great experience cacti are magical, I still have yet to really partake though. Growing them is a blessing in itself
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22162970 - 08/29/15 11:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sounds like a great time! Glad to hear you enjoyed it
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: nicechrisman]
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I am at ground 0 with dmt...never have tried it know very little about how it works or what it takes to make. Point me in the right direction if you want. I imagine DN? Has all the info.
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