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been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE
#22089639 - 08/13/15 11:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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This site has provided me with knowlesge and support for some years now. I don't post a whole lot mainly just read and listen. With that said, im comin off a 7 month bit for cannabis related squirmishes with the law. I have a deep passion for the pyschadelic realm and am feeling somewhat deprived at the moment. Through out the years of learning to cultivate mushrooms I have managed to turn a blind eye to what certain cacti may have to offer. I recently place an order through a person named cactus kate. I have good reason to believe she has quality product and I ordered 2 12" cuttings of bridgessi. It is more apparent then ever that now is the time in my life to experience this. I Plan on being a man about it consuming from a no-heat prep method. Stress-freeze-thaw-blend-strain. I am also willing to consume the solids minus the core if that will play a roll in gaining more alkaloids. This is my first time and i really want to feel what it has to offer. I am confident in my ability to get it all down im doing one cutting. I have a good country setting for my experience on private land. And a strong spiritual foundation and heart. A few questions I have is 1. Should I go it alone? Im comfortable in my own skin but have recognized how much of an asset a truusting sober friend is in these journeys. 2. Is it a good experience without weed i smoked in ever trip i had i cant smoke now and was wondering if i will even be caring about it while in my journey i dont want to break down and smoke and fuck up my probation cause im feeling so good and get a case of the fuck-its. 3. I am an experienced tripper and seeking a level 3-4 experience is 12" in your opinions enough to get there? And last of all what should i expect as far as ability to function after about 8hrs i gave myself that much of a window to completely shut myself off from the world. I thank this community so much for the knowledge and insight it has given me. It is my time now to embark in something knew and I turn to you now for a final opinion on my upcoming jourmey.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: Grungeman17] 1
#22089718 - 08/14/15 12:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm far, FAR from an experienced cactus tripper (1 cactus trip total lol, San Pedro), but I do have countless mushroom & L trips under my belt.
First off, I would go solo, personally. Unless the person there with me is tripping also -- I would just rather ride it with my thoughts and I.
A 12 inch cutting of bridge should/will definitely get you tripping nicely I would think, although expecting a level 4 trip on that amount would probably be pushing it. But then again, you'll want to get feedback from others on that -- and preferably those with bridgesii experience.
And dude, you may also want to consider more than just an 8 hour window to work with. My SP trip lasted roughly 16 hours, and cacti trips are known for their lengthy durations.
That's all I got, bud.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: Niffla]
#22089732 - 08/14/15 12:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for your response. I think im just gonna dedicate the whole damn day to ot lol theres alot of recreation where im staying and plenty of private land to roam. That was helpful because I feel too that I should go solo unless i have someone to share the experience with. Which is up in the air in all reality. Im fine with a solid level 3 trip if it teaters on the edge of level 4 i will endure. Im actually jist working on some activities to do to carry out the length of the trip I figured maybe a few hours of fishing and some disc golf is in order. I will only trip in nature... even tho i do like the warm coazy feeling of coming indoors at night and relaxing to good music all of which is available to me.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: Grungeman17]
#22089755 - 08/14/15 12:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Grungeman17 said: Thanks for your response.
No problem, and best of luck on your trip. Hopefully some bridge trippers will chime in soon and offer you some feedback.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: Grungeman17]
#22089757 - 08/14/15 12:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's hard to say whether u should do it alone or not, by that I mean I don't feel I have the authorization nor does anyone else to decide that for you. Although I will say that if it were me I'd definitely wouldn't mind going through it on my own. The cactus can be a very clear and vivid experience unlike other psychedelics, so ure chances of having a good experience are much higher I would imagine, just as long uve got the whole set n setting down, which by the sound of it looks like ure more than ready.
There is really no need to smoke weed during the experience, the experience itself is more than enough. Although there are times when the experience isn't as u'd hoped it'd be, maybe the cactus wasn't as potent, but u still feel something, well the weed will potentiate ur trip ten fold. Just be careful tho cuz sometimes it potentiates it too much and u might end up feeling lots of anxiety. Also, considering ur current situation it's probably not the best idea to be smoking weed.. If all goes well tho u won't even think about the weed..
Good luck man, I hope u have a wonderful experience
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: zZZz]
#22089789 - 08/14/15 01:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I selected bridge because for one it seems people have described it as a more potent experience but not neccasarily i guess. And its current what is most available through amazon. I figured if i hit off good i wouldnt put much thought into weed which im not even going to make available to myself. I like the sound of how its more vivid and lucid thats the exact experience im seeking right now.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: Grungeman17]
#22090626 - 08/14/15 10:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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yea I would def do it alone because the chances of a bad trip with mescalin are so low. Don't smoke weed, experience the mescalin alone.
i'd get down as much of the stuff as I could, even might eat both 12 inch pieces and that's because a 12 inch piece might be enough to really trip, depending on potency but with mescalin you never really know and its not a very punishing chemical.
its like 2 mild trips or one strong, your choice.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: ergoticmandala]
#22094262 - 08/15/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Im a go big or go home kinda guy. I would be willing to do 2 feet that seems like alot though it appears that 1 1/2 has been a popular dose. I feel i may just do that and while im on the new, I would plant the remaining 1/2 and see what comes of it. I dont know. 2 feet sounds about like ego death waiting to happen which may be what I need.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: Grungeman17]
#22094284 - 08/15/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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My first mesc experience I dosed 2 feet bridgesii, I was blown away at how comfortable I felt. My whole body was glowing, purring, humming to the universe which was wonderful. The visuals were amazing, everything had a "southwestern" look to it, lots of turquoise, blues, and greens.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: Grungeman17]
#22094320 - 08/15/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do it. No cook freeze/thaw method works pretty well, but I don't know about eating the solids. Good luck on that. Cactus Kate is RIP but there is someone still running a website under her name. I've heard the bridgesii are very good, but the pachanoi and "peruvianus" that I saw pics of on the site look like BS to me.
I wouldn't be afraid to do it alone, but I do find it's nice to have someone to share the experience with too. I've done it with and without cannabis, and I'd say it's great either way.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: nicechrisman]
#22094594 - 08/15/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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eating cactus is god awful nasty and the body load from bridge is horrendous with strong head zaps IME of course
just wait till you smell it cooking youll know
I think bridge smells even worse than sp
to each his own but never again for me
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: Grungeman17]
#22094603 - 08/15/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Grungeman17 said: This site has provided me with knowlesge and support for some years now. I don't post a whole lot mainly just read and listen. With that said, im comin off a 7 month bit for cannabis related squirmishes with the law. I have a deep passion for the pyschadelic realm and am feeling somewhat deprived at the moment. Through out the years of learning to cultivate mushrooms I have managed to turn a blind eye to what certain cacti may have to offer. I recently place an order through a person named cactus kate. I have good reason to believe she has quality product and I ordered 2 12" cuttings of bridgessi. It is more apparent then ever that now is the time in my life to experience this. I Plan on being a man about it consuming from a no-heat prep method. Stress-freeze-thaw-blend-strain. I am also willing to consume the solids minus the core if that will play a roll in gaining more alkaloids. This is my first time and i really want to feel what it has to offer. I am confident in my ability to get it all down im doing one cutting. I have a good country setting for my experience on private land. And a strong spiritual foundation and heart. A few questions I have is 1. Should I go it alone? Im comfortable in my own skin but have recognized how much of an asset a truusting sober friend is in these journeys. 2. Is it a good experience without weed i smoked in ever trip i had i cant smoke now and was wondering if i will even be caring about it while in my journey i dont want to break down and smoke and fuck up my probation cause im feeling so good and get a case of the fuck-its. 3. I am an experienced tripper and seeking a level 3-4 experience is 12" in your opinions enough to get there? And last of all what should i expect as far as ability to function after about 8hrs i gave myself that much of a window to completely shut myself off from the world. I thank this community so much for the knowledge and insight it has given me. It is my time now to embark in something knew and I turn to you now for a final opinion on my upcoming jourmey.
I have purchased cactus Kate trichocereus pachanoi several times and have always been satisfied with the alkaloid content of the cacti provided...
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
#22094621 - 08/15/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have heard the cactus Kate trichocereus bridgesii contain good amounts of the desired alkaloids as well.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
#22096709 - 08/15/15 10:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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All I can say is it's in the mail... shit is eminent...updates will come.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: Doctor Sponge]
#22096734 - 08/15/15 10:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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learning sponge said: eating cactus is god awful nasty and the body load from bridge is horrendous with strong head zaps IME of course
just wait till you smell it cooking youll know
I think bridge smells even worse than sp
to each his own but never again for me
The head zaps are all part of the fun! Bridgesii does have a distinctive smell when cooking. Kinda a vinegar smell where pachanoi has more of just kinda a strong plant material smell. I've never really tried just straight eating cactus except for a tiny piece and I was all like "fuck no I'm not eating this".
The most palatable is when you take the cactus and freeze and thaw it and squeeze out all the juices released in a tshirt and just drink that. Straight raw fresh meltwater. It's the best IMO. Much better than the brewed tea, but obviously you're not getting everything out of the cactus. You can then take the leftover material and either make an alcohol tar or brew it into tea.
Don't get me wrong, the meltwater doesn't taste great, but it's not as bad as tea.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: nicechrisman]
#22096851 - 08/15/15 11:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah, It's funny cause I got it in my head that it wont be that bad tasting i've eatin some pretty questionable stuff in my day, like lets just say the lemon tek swamp shot has never fased me. But I don't think you guys are messin around when you say how disgusting it is. A main erowid prep method is like yea and afterward eat the solids if so desire, they make it sound like asparagus... can someone describe or elaborate on a "head zap"
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: Grungeman17]
#22096854 - 08/15/15 11:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah good luck with that asparagus. All the hollondaise sauce in the world ain't gonna make that palatable.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience [Re: Grungeman17]
#22096898 - 08/15/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Grungeman17 said: can someone describe or elaborate on a "head zap"
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin]
#22151195 - 08/27/15 12:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well they came... They're not as big in diameter as I expected them to be about 2 1/2 in. At the biggest point so im definatly gonna consume both like i said im just doing the fresh to juice method should i bother deskining it or should I just cut freeze and blend after taking off the spines. Maybe these just seem smaller in person in comparison to the pics i have seen on here. They are 13 inches in length.
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Re: been out of the game for a minute planning a first time mescaline experience UPDATE [Re: Grungeman17]
#22151204 - 08/27/15 12:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've tried skinned and not skinned. I haven't found it makes much difference except the skin on seems to make for a darker colored brew. Not sure why. Tannins maybe?
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