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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Konyap]
    #22102715 - 08/17/15 12:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Huh?


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: koraks]
    #22102721 - 08/17/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

because they tunneled into the great pyramid


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: zZZz]
    #22102722 - 08/17/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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we always look back and marvel at how life used to be, and we tend to disconnect ourselfs from the past, but the truth is we were the past, the ancients were as real as you and me. they were human beings.




There still needs to be a believable theory in terms of motivation for such a gargantuan undertaking.  WHY do it? Why all that effort, treasure, lives, and back breaking toil?  Even if you have slaves, the cost of that endeavor is absolutely ginormous. 

Building a tombstone doesn't cut it. It's laughable, really.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: Konyap]
    #22102725 - 08/17/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22102730 - 08/17/15 01:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

“Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn't.”

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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22102740 - 08/17/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Building a tombstone doesn't cut it.



For you. But your private opinion doesn't make it a fact. The statues on Easter Island - energy channeling devices to guide ancient aliens through their time travel?


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because they tunneled into the great pyramid



There'll always be looters, regardless of religious beliefs.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22102751 - 08/17/15 01:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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“Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn't.”

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One of the great "truths" when you start getting into topics that make people a bit uncomfortable like Pyramids, Atlantis, UFO's, Extra Terrestrials, etc., is that the people that tend to be the most convinced and adamant that any explanation involving non ordinary or supernatural elements are bullshit tend to be the people least informed about the topic. 

In other words, those that are most convinced the Pyramids are giant tombstones built with endless slave labor are the ones that 90% of the time know almost nothing about the topic. 

Most modern Egyptologists that have real access to the entire pyramid complex are Egyptian and Islamic.  There is, therefore, a built in slant or bias toward a non spiritual explanation of what the Pyramids are all about in order to preserve the supremacy of Islam.  Egypt is protective about who gets access and what projects are green lighted based on a  lot of factors that have nothing to do with real discovery of the truth.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: koraks]
    #22102761 - 08/17/15 01:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The statues on Easter Island - energy channeling devices to guide ancient aliens through their time travel?





More likely monuments to advanced beings that had interacted with humans either in waking or non-ordinary reality.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca] * 1
    #22102774 - 08/17/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Oh dear. Nobody's uncomfortable about the topics you mentioned. I and many others are just amazed at the number of people that buy readily into the most insane crackpot theories. Interestingly, 90% of those people are likely to have the same kind of truth-defiant views on any imaginable topic. I'll leave the deduction part to you, although that's obviously not a wise move. Albeit an amusing one.
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The statues on Easter Island - energy channeling devices to guide ancient aliens through their time travel?




More likely monuments to advanced beings that had interacted with humans either in waking or non-ordinary reality.



Of course. How could I miss the obvious explanation? Read one too many books, I'm afraid.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca] * 2
    #22102792 - 08/17/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i'm just saying that the idea of giant grave markers can't be thrown out as entirely implausible.  History is replete with massive stupid undertakings.
Americans carved giant faces into a mountain. What practical purpose did that serve?


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22102800 - 08/17/15 01:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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“Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn't.”

― Mark Twain





Most modern Egyptologists that have real access to the entire pyramid complex are Egyptian and Islamic.  There is, therefore, a built in slant or bias toward a non spiritual explanation of what the Pyramids are all about in order to preserve the supremacy of Islam.  Egypt is protective about who gets access and what projects are green lighted based on a  lot of factors that have nothing to do with real discovery of the truth.




I was watching a League of Legends documentry and they were talking about how the cops there fire guns at the protesters

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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: koraks]
    #22102826 - 08/17/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Of course. How could I miss the obvious explanation? Read one too many books, I'm afraid.




Do you know what totems are or their purpose?


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22102832 - 08/17/15 01:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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we always look back and marvel at how life used to be, and we tend to disconnect ourselfs from the past, but the truth is we were the past, the ancients were as real as you and me. they were human beings.




There still needs to be a believable theory in terms of motivation for such a gargantuan undertaking.  WHY do it? Why all that effort, treasure, lives, and back breaking toil?  Even if you have slaves, the cost of that endeavor is absolutely ginormous. 

Building a tombstone doesn't cut it. It's laughable, really.




maybe it was everything, a tombstone, a time machine, it was an energetic field. it was everything that was treasured back then all in one place, for the next generation. a time capsule if u will.

i had this really interesting thought a while back,

that the pyramids were made for like this huge ritual, possibly the biggest ritual man had ever witnessed, to separate consciousness from man. you see it in the back of dollar bills, the pyramid with the tip that is separated from the rest of the pyramid. that is the ritual of the giza..

the pyramids were ultimately made to enslave mankind, to keep all the knowledge in one place, far away from the eyes of the enslaved.

take for instance someone who is book smart, vs someone who is not book smart, in a society where brains triumphs over muscle, who is going to be the victor?.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22102836 - 08/17/15 01:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You're about to tell me their communication devices for communicating with godlike beings that are actually very real, aren't you?


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: koraks]
    #22102853 - 08/17/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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You're about to tell me their communication devices for communicating with godlike beings that are actually very real, aren't you?




No, I'm here to tell you that indigenous societies and shaman in particular have a far more vivid and active interaction with dreaming and non ordinary states of reality.  This has been well documented.  What modern science might call brain chemistry dreaming or plant induced hallucinations or music induced trance they saw as something very different.  And, in some cases, they developed great fluency in those states of reality.  The things they saw, experienced and interacted with, to them, were far more real than the way we choose to see the world today. 

Those structures on Easter Island are no doubt representations of interactions they had with what they believed to be very advanced beings.  They may have felt this structures were indeed symbols they could communicate to much like modern Christians pray to a cross or representation of Jesus today.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22102865 - 08/17/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sure, why not? But a stoned shaman talking to an imaginary being is something entirely different from the reverse, which you claimed in relation to the Easter Island statues.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: koraks] * 2
    #22102882 - 08/17/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Probably to troll people 5000 years in the future.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: koraks]
    #22102885 - 08/17/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Sure, why not? But a stoned shaman talking to an imaginary being is something entirely different from the reverse, which you claimed in relation to the Easter Island statues.




What I said and/or meant to say was that I believe the Easter Island Statues (totems) to be representations of advanced beings the people that built them had interactions with either in waking or non waking reality.  I don't know which of the two and it could possibly be both.

If you choose to believe a "stoned shaman" could motivate the kind of herculean effort it took to build all those statues, have at it.  If you believe all encounters with advanced beings is just a stoned hallucination, than have at that as well.  I don't see it that way and I doubt very much the people that built those statues saw it that way either.


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: koraks]
    #22102889 - 08/17/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Sure, why not? But a stoned shaman talking to an imaginary being is something entirely different from the reverse, which you claimed in relation to the Easter Island statues.




have u any idea where u are at?..

the possibilities are endless


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Re: so what do think the pyramids of giza were made for? [Re: zZZz]
    #22102905 - 08/17/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

99% of the Humans on our planet in our MODERN WORLD today that believe in the big bang theory are not able to describe even 1% of the math/physics that are the foundation of that theory. 

Just saying that those that take a science based explanation on the deeper mysteries have no flipping clue what they are believing in.


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